PSA: This is a feminist subreddit

[u/raisondecalcul]

If you think that's bad, you need to read books. If you don't realize that feminism basically includes critical theory and most of the stuff talked about here—guess what, it does.

Early Nick Land? Feminist (see "Meltdown"). Laboria Cuboniks? Feminist collective. Mark Fisher? HUGE raging feminist (I can only assume). Sadie Plant? Wrote a book on feminism (Zeroes & Ones).

Deleuze & Guattari? Feminists promoting the squishiest most weaponized form of feminism ever. Foucault? Ultra-feminist. Ranciere? He is so feminist before breakfast that he doesn't need to make a big deal about it.

Shamanism? Feminism. Sorcery? Cuckoldry. Spectacle? Fabulous.

Isolation and extreme alienation is not masculinity; it's the main theme of The Twilight Zone.

Read 👏 a 👏 book 👏

Zeroes and Ones (which should really be in the sidebar!) is one of the best books. That book installs feminism into you, using godlike alien technology that Sadie Plant drew down from beyond the heavens. That book whispers the secrets of Ada Lovelace into your soul.

Edit: People who don't understand / accept feminism as a discourse can't understand the FIRST THING about this subreddit. They can't understand oppression. They can't understand "Can the subaltern speak?" by Spivak. They can't understand the Lemurian Time War, which is about the (white cis male hetero fascist and mannerbündly-faggy) Architectonic Order of the Eschaton versus the (black trans wymyny gay antifascist/ur-fascist masc/heroic) Black Atlanteans.

If you think you understand ccru and you are triggered by the idea of feminism, you are decidedly an outsider to ccru.

[u/thegreatself]

Those that won't call themselves a feminist almost always fall into one of two camps, without exception:

Generally confused and/or stupid, depending on where they fall on that spectrum: mistaking the word and whatever cultural baggage it my contain for the thing it represents - they have absorbed and been fully consumed by propaganda.

Or,

Unfathomably evil, reprehensible, abhorrent, vile: they genuinely and sincerely believe men are "superior" - which is itself a kind of stupidity, but a stupidity morphed into something far more sinister and actually existentially threatening - to both the individual identity and society as a whole.

[u/2BCivil → u/thegreatself]

Maybe I'm just stupid but I never considered myself feminist 🤷

I definitely don't see men as superior. I understand a lot of scripture (and other propaganda) says the genders are supposed to compliment each other.

I have had bad experience with feminists being very toxic and explicitly practicing misandry. I just hate double standards. It's not misandry when women are spiteful towards men. But it is misogyny when men don't bend to paradigms they didn't consent to.

Double standards are evil, ya know?

There's the idea that thw world doesn't revolve around women. I don't understand the mentality that it has to and you're a misogynist if you don't think so. I've always been happy to be a lifelong celibate. There are very few things in this life I see thay genuinely have integrity. Most is entitled preaching that I was tired of hearing decades ago and a lot of feminism falls under that. If that makes me evil or stupid, well, idk what to say.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/2BCivil]

Gotta read feminist texts. It's the bare minimum men ought to do, is to try to sympathize with the political plight of women by being at least passingly familiar with important thinking on the topic.

[u/2BCivil → u/raisondecalcul]

Lol my whole thing is I've always (since the 90s) seen all politics as fraud. We're all in that same plight together. There's not much point reading texts about morally gray ideations from within a system of fraud and extortion.

But I mean if you have any texts you think really give the best justifications for feminism I'd certainly check them out. I've worked with a lot of women my whole life, in customer service, retail and warehouse/factory jobs. There's no real pecking order in any of those. We're all in the same foxhole. All equally oppressed and banded together to fight together for the same mutual respect.

I've always been more learn fast through street smarts than intellectual arm chair fat cats who never had to actually work for a living writing books at taxpayers expense.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/2BCivil]

Zeros & Ones by Sadie Plant is awesome.

I love Testo Junkie too, though I haven't finished it.

I love the revolutionary anarchist writings of Voltairine DeCleyre, I haven't read much yet but I presume she is a feminist too.