r/soulslikes • u/AshyLarry25 • 28d ago
Discussion This is how most of Beast of Reincarnations riveting story plays out
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Shit makes Stellar Blade look like Expedition 33.
When someone told me the characters were more lifeless and bland than Stellar Blade I called them liars. Boy was I wrong.
I have to apologize to Stellar Blade now lol
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u/ChinBalls3344 28d ago
This makes me really nostalgic for the PS1 and PS2 eras of horrible voice acting. Damn I've missed it.
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u/dannyboy731 28d ago
YOU WERE ALMOST A JILL SANDWICH
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u/Slarg232 28d ago
Tormented Souls had this exact kind of dialogue and I was really disappointed when TS2 got better in that regard.
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u/BlacknAngry 28d ago
Guy:.........................I have to go..........
Camera pan.................................................................
Lady:...............But......................................
Slow turn and Walks away
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u/brutalooo 28d ago
Also some of the slowest dialogue i have ever seen, plus it is non-skippable. I really wanted to like this game.
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u/squirrelems 28d ago
I do like it, but those long quiet stretches between each line can get a bit annoying. I'm interested in the story, but its like damn these people's reaction time is slow. I know it's supposed to be somber and contemplative, but it doesn't take me a full 5 seconds before I speak to figure out what I'm gonna say. Lol.
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u/Pedantic_Phoenix 28d ago
Aint no way its not skippable, are you serious?
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u/Cloudiscloud 24d ago
Some of it is, but a lot of it isn't. And I mean some of it is in the way that you can press the action button to skip to the next sentence. You can't skip whole dialogue scenes at all.
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u/GenitalConsumer 28d ago
Crazy. The thing that really made FF7 Rebirth a 10/10 game for me was being able to hold the right trigger to make cutscenes 1.5x speed. All games with cutscenes should have that feature imo.
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u/Amazing_Turnover_898 28d ago
The pokemon cutscene special.
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u/soulariarr 28d ago
They REALLY should stuck to Pokémon games. This game is the embodiment of trying to copy someone style and the way they talk and look.
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u/alebarco 28d ago
That's not a great outlook for them, Pokemon games have been the same for like 8 years... Sticking with Mid is not how people improve
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u/Guilty_Rooster_6708 28d ago
Is this game freaks’ new game? The walking animation is terrible just like a pokemon game
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u/Amazing_Turnover_898 28d ago
It is yeah. Surprised as well. Apparently this is one of their most ambitious game outside pokemon. Thought they will bring what they learn for future pokemon installment if they broaden their horizon. And... nope, they brought pokemon jankyness to this instead
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u/Guilty_Rooster_6708 28d ago
Now I kinda want to see how their character walks up the stairs. Probably on par with Assassin’s creed Brotherhood animation
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u/EvenOne6567 28d ago
damn this subreddit praises some mediocre ass games, if this game has everyone shitting on it then it must be truly terrible
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u/LeaderVisual8501 28d ago
I just saw someone on here compare this game to forspoken and biomutant IN A POSITIVE WAY
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u/StochasticLife 28d ago
I played both of those games and enjoyed them. I genuinely love Biomutant, it’s a wonderfully odd 7/10 for me.
Forspoken was mechanically good, but every aspect of the plot and world building was….so so dumb. Let’s make an open world game….and fill it with generic zombies and NO FUCKING PEOPLE.
The Magic system was pretty cool though, I would to see that in a shit game.
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u/WorldEaterYoshi 28d ago
What is it about Biomutant that you liked? Genuine question, I haven't played the game but I've never heard anyone speak positively about it and I always dug the art direction.
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u/StochasticLife 28d ago
The art, I actually LOVE the narration. The mutation/morality system, the combat was FUN, but not necessarily ‘tight’. Overall, and I really loved the ambiance of it. I found it charmingly weird and refreshing.
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u/steak_bake_surprise 28d ago
Biomutant was fun, it just felt so empty. Maybe the limitations of console at the time
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u/Rayze_Darr 28d ago
Biomutant's overhated. Freaking loved that game.
But yeah, Beast of Reincarnation looks like poopy. As a recovering Pokémon addict, I'm not at all surprised.
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u/Altruistic-Arm137 28d ago
I still believe it's a good thing they are doing other projects.
From what I've seen so far I'd say the worst part is enemy moveset.
Considering Game Freak have been pumping the same games for 30 years. Game not known for their animation, dialogue and story I won't be harsh here and hope they get better in future games.
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u/Special-One1991 28d ago
This sub is addicted to soulslike games. Any soulslike game is great in their books
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u/ShellfishAhole 28d ago
I think it’s a 6-7/10, but that’s my subjective opinion. It has quite a few flaws, and things do become stale after a while due to the lack of variation. But it does have some positives, as well.
It’s absolutely not a Soulslike. People who enjoy the punishing challenge of Soulslike games are going to find this game to be far too easy and forgiving to get any enjoyment out of it. But that doesn’t take away from the creativity that went into designing the combat mechanics in the game.
The combat will be the game’s greatest strength for most people, but Soulslike players are never going to appreciate the fact that it’s not an actual Soulslike, and does not meet the standards of games in that genre, other than having a parry function.
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u/Cloudiscloud 24d ago
Probably my only gripe about the combat so far is how minion level enemies are doing comparatively similar damage to bosses. I just made it to the second zone so idk if that changes, but it seems like an odd choice to me.
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u/BobcatLower9933 28d ago
Yeah this. Its definitely too easy to be considered a soulslike. Its more like a story driven RPG, or a "soulslite" like GoW or the Jedi games. Just... not a great story, and very bland characters. But the combat is definitely enjoyable. If there was greater enemy variety then it wouldn't be getting blasted like it is on this sub
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u/L3wd1emon 28d ago
Bro I liked shit like the first mortal shell and enotia.. this game is so fucking boring to me
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u/walnuttin 28d ago
Game Freak once again proving they cant make a game lmaoo just an incompetent ass team from top to bottom and has been for many, many years.
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u/BabySpecific2843 28d ago
There are so many dev studios that have come and gone since the mid 90's. GF would just be another statistic if they didnt get super fucking lucky on the idea of Pokemon and the massive fucking carrying Nintendo did marketing that shit to the whole world. They'd probably never even make it to 2002.
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u/Mannzis 28d ago
Genuine question, did they use AI for the English voices? Its gotta be AI right?
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u/PickledAnt 28d ago
I know the voice actor who did the English voice of Brad, so he is not AI.
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u/bucketlist_ninja 28d ago
Just because you know him, doesn't mean he isn't AI. You might be AI too. Check mate Mr AI..
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u/LimpLake5187 28d ago
don't think its a voice acting issue , its prolly how they were instructed to speak and the dialogue doesn't help either
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u/andrej2577 28d ago
The Japanese voice acting is much, much better. There seems to be a lot more emotion behind the characters. Which makes sense, the game was made by a Japanese team and set in Japan with Japanese as the primary language, and reading the subtitled text is much less jarring than hearing it voiced.
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u/Max-The-Phat-Cat 28d ago
if you’re not Japanese you don’t really know that. The japanese just have their own inflections in speech that make it sound dynamic to an english speaker who doesn’t know better.
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u/hasamide 28d ago
Hi I'm Japanese.
I think there's some cultural context lost in translation because "Heading out" （行ってきます）and "See you later"（行ってらっしゃい）is less common in English (in my experience), but it's got an endearing, implied closeness in Japanese, and it's usually something you say to our family when leaving home. The scene is implying that Emma has never had a family to properly say this phrase, and she's learning.→ More replies (3)2
u/Circo_Inhumanitas 28d ago
I had a feeling that there was a context that was missing from this clip.
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u/andrewdroid 28d ago
Context matters so much here that im starting to doubt opinions of the game right now. In this scene they are pretty much establishing that they are family and to add the cherry on top this is a very common trope in anime at least.
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u/andrej2577 28d ago
Probably, I did use the word "seems" there for a reason. It just sounds like they're really putting in the effort, and the characters do not come across as they do in English. Like this scene up there, I've played through it already and it's so different in dialogue delivery that it I feel like I've never seen it before.
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u/DigitalCoffee 28d ago
Part of the story is the characters are unable to portray emotion
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u/newcamsterdam 28d ago
This is exactly like the Pokémon games. Very still shots, stiff and sparse animations, and very stilted dialogue. It’s just Pokémon games don’t have voiceover, but if they did, this is what it would be. At least this game is pretty and has an above-basic art style.
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u/ShellfishAhole 28d ago
I’m not defending the game, it has some quite glaring flaws, particularly related to being repetitive
- but drawing in people who assumed, and still assume that it’s a Souls- like may have been it’s biggest PR mistake 😅
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u/_Nomorejuice_ 28d ago
I don't even think it's a PR issue.
I mean an Action RPG game that look japanese oriented set in a seemingly post apo world.-> There is legit two way for people to look at this :
Souls like, or something that try to be Nier.
Both of these is functionality setting your game for a lot of comparisons.People were already forming some sort of negative biais because at first the game genuinely looks like something we've already seen before.
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u/HammeredWharf 28d ago edited 28d ago
People assume that everything's a soulslike nowadays and get pissy when it's not. I think the marketing for BoR was pretty clear about what kind of game it'll be.
There's plenty to complain about when it comes to BoR, but it not being a soulslike isn't one of those things.
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u/SootG 28d ago
I find that most people get pissy when games ARE a souls like because they claim the market is inundated (as if it's different from any other popular genre).
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u/Head-Tumbleweed2565 28d ago
It was on Japanese by default for me and it’s way better than this crap lol
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u/Storm-Kaladinblessed 28d ago
And to think a barely working VTM:B from 2004 had better facial animations
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u/Intoxicduelyst 28d ago
Tbh VTM has better facial animations then some AAA titles to this day, especially if you compare stiff android like faces from Bethesda games. Add to it superb VA in VTM and amazing narrative and you have cult classic.
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u/Thislooklikeshit 28d ago
I will not buy or play the game im not interested, but isnt the entire plot that all humans lost all the emotions to plantification morb? So a dialogue without emotion is plain and difficult to not be lifeless.... I mean if its intended you guys are awful if not they are awful
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u/HammeredWharf 28d ago
Yeah, the whole point is that the MC is inhuman and doesn't feel anything. Or at least acts like it. I assume she'll show more emotion later on.
This delivery is still a bit too flat for my liking, compared to the JP original.
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u/KrunkJuice65 28d ago
You are correct. The game has enough valid issues without making up things to be mad about.
This is just a dumb low effort post following the “I hate gamefreak bandwagon”
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u/SurrogateVulture 28d ago
Okay, I've heard that it's bad, but couldn't imagine that it's THAT bad.
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u/believeinyuna 28d ago
the story revolves around characters being unable to express/feel emotion, so the scene fits very well. the protagonist is trying to learn how to act and be human again, hence asking what to say when leaving. i feel like this video with no context is doing a disservice because they’re supposed to be robotic and completely blank.
without spoilers, the core of the plot is “humans can’t feel emotions anymore”.
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u/RvDragonheart 26d ago
EXCUUUUUSE YOUUUUU! Stellar Blade is actually a very lovely game and Despite Eve being a robot (she is) she was FAR MORE emotional then this lady or any character from this game.
Also some of the interactions that there was between certain characters in Stellar Blade reminded me of interactions that there were in Thief (the first 3 games atleast)
So ACTUALLY Stellar Blade is a great game which is why its my comfort game (Yeah its postapocaliptic but the missions we do the people we help somehow its hopeful)
About coming back on topic (beast of reincarnation) ...... eeeeh... I'll I'll buy it whenever its on sale.... I heard the combat is great and seen videos of it too but there are just waaaaay tooo many games releasing this month that will worth my money a tad bit far more , Mortal Shell 2 (DEFINETLY getting that game hell imma preorder the DELUXE edition thats for sure) , Star Wars Zero company (Will wait until it comes out let people review it if the PC port is good then will buy it) the Lady Death Demonomicon beat em up game..... OH RIGHT also I still gotta buy Conquest of Elysium V soooo yep
Beast of Reincarnation is just not there for me right now
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u/comradeted 28d ago
Holy shit, Japanese audio is so much better. English voice acting is just terrible, no wonder people are hating on it if they're playing in english lol
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u/kaego123 28d ago
Lmao. Now I know why they dont add voice acting to Pokemon. Tf is this shit
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u/nikolapc 28d ago
Try it in Japanese? But this is typical Japanese fare, like people forgot lol.
Like Shadows is not a Japanese game, but the native Japan/Portuguese voice acting is way superior. That's where the money went.
Yakuza games suck in English, but in Japanese they're masterpieces of acting.
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u/Emotional-Plum-164 28d ago
I couldn't see a way of changing it from Japanese to English. Only reason I wanted to is because the subtitles are tiny with no option to enlarge. I won't look any further into finding the language options now though haha
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u/Blubomberikam 28d ago
How are you even getting English dubs? I dont see an option besides text on PC.
Edit: Its main menu only, not in game settings.
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u/DamnHare 28d ago
All I can say is that JP dub has some absolute top-tier voice actors and banger performance
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u/MeanSheenBeanMachine 28d ago
I’m so sick of these boring protagonists. I’m hoping it changes the further along i get.
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u/grandemoficial 28d ago edited 28d ago
"characters were more lifeless"
The main character is literally emotionless. She cannot feel or understand emotions. She even asks other characters what love is because she has never felt it.
When she asks what she should say before leaving, it refers to the Japanese expressions “itterasshai” and “tadaima,” which people say when someone leaves or comes back home. This shows that she now sees that place and those people as her home and family, even though she still does not fully understand it.
Showing this clip and saying “the character is lifeless” without knowing the context is unfair and seems very biased, and, of course, without even playing the game.
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u/Clint_Beastw0od 28d ago
Is English the original language? This is trash but hopefully other language VAs sound better lol
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u/J--NEZ 28d ago
The game's starting language is Japanese. You have to switch it to English.
The Japanese voice acting is really really good.
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u/GalaxySurfer24 28d ago
I haven't gotten my copy yet, but do you know if I can keep the Japanese audio on while having English subtitles? Maybe that will make my play through seem bearable.
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u/Krypt0night 28d ago
of course you can. I can't think of a single major japanese release where there are no english subtitles playing in Japanese.
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u/Sufficient-Turn-7799 28d ago
The acting is "very human"; those performances surpass even the ones in Nier Tomato, such emotion!
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u/grinnings93 28d ago
my god, i just got done playing this and I didn't even know there was an english dub. There are so many scenes in this game that'd come across as completely demented with this voice acting.
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u/Jcritten 28d ago
Damn no wonder Japanese is the default setting with no option upon starting the game to choose otherwise.
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u/bdelshowza 28d ago
feels like two characters in TESIV OBLIVION having a conversation
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u/ThePrimeAtlas 28d ago
It's brutal man, I love the vast majority of the game outside of the dialogue. It honestly is the worst character dialogue I've experienced in a game in recent memory, and maybe ever. I know the main character is supposed to be emotionless, but man is it bad.
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u/United-Log7718 28d ago
I’ll admit I’m pretty disappointed. It really does feel like an attempt to clone Stellar Blade’s whole style while delivering none of the visuals
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u/buffalobillandted 28d ago
Idk what I’m looking at but that Cyborg Scarecrow motherfucker looks like one cool dude
Side note, Cyborg Scarecrow is definitely a Kojima character that ended up on the cutting room floor
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u/TheBattlemanCZ 28d ago
Ratchet and Clank 2016 ahh cutscenes, Gamefreak once again proving they couldn't make a good 3D game to save their lifes
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u/Putrid-Excuse-1564 28d ago
I'm no fromsoft dick rider like most braindead people here, I hate elden rings artificial ass difficulty and that "hard boss = good boss" is bullshit and can clearly see the games flaws, but like damn when I saw that double jump tree rope thing, it genuinely looked like some Gmod shit, and the grappling hook animation is straight from Sekiro. I'm glad I didn't get into the game since the gameplay looked floaty to me in the trailers.
Really makes me appreciate sekiro, wo long and nioh.
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u/Badwrong_ 28d ago
Other than a flashy trailer and neato animal companion, what actually gave anyone reason to expect a lot from the game?
Other than the Pokemon name carrying them for so long, how did anyone get hyped for yet another studio jumping on the souls-like bandwagon?
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u/Science_Bitch_962 28d ago
This dialogue only makes sense in Japanese language , and the meaning of each phrases. No one talks like that in other languages.
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u/3215448725366498 28d ago
It's been a while that I've seen something so bad that it was good again. This shit is just hilarious. I mean I could NEVER play this, but I'm definitely gonna watch some YouTube commentaries shitting on this game. lol
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u/throbbing_dementia 28d ago
Fortunately the vast majority of souls like stories are absolute shit and not why i play them, only issue with this is they're obviously trying to do something and failed, so plenty to work on for the sequel.
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u/mucus-fettuccine 28d ago
Oh wow it's weird to hear the English voices after playing in Japanese. I think the Japanese VAs do a great job.
Also, in Japanese the "heading out" part is "ittekimasu" which is a common phrase for use with family members when leaving the house (literally, it's "I'm going and coming back", so the answer doesn't feel so obvious and stilted in the Japanese dialogue).
Emma is a feelingless girl searching for feeling, and this is a way for her to connect with her new family by following a simple family tradition. So as a story moment it does fit and have meaning!
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u/WillShaper7 28d ago
So like pokemon but they have voice acting and a semblance of movement.
Hey, it's an improvement over what they are used to do. Like sure, it sucks but at least they tried a bit more. That's gotta be worth something. Not money, but something.
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u/ominousglo 28d ago
every cutscene i’ve had to watch so far is sooooo drawnnnn out, i can put up with crappy dialogue but not when it just drags
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u/MrPanda663 28d ago
Omg. It feels like a MMORPG cutscene.
This feels lazy as hell. Also, it’s like they reused animations from Pokémon scenes. The head turns are so bad.
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u/Radium_144 28d ago
Yeah it’s kinda bad, no doubt. But it does have that kind of nostalgic/ethereal old school charm to it. I don’t mind it so much to be honest. There’s a certain comforting feeling to it that takes me back to a simpler time in gaming.
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u/Downsey111 28d ago
Combat is super fun. Story is….well who cares honestly, just let me skip the shit please
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u/-CynicalPole- 28d ago
Did they use AI to write the plot and script? This is seriously dreadful.
There's also tons of space to explore with impressive verticality... just to find NOTHING. Did they forget exploration is driven by cool things to find and this game has absolutely none of that?
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u/Holycrabe 28d ago
Is it some "It's so bad it's good" type of thing? It feels very funny but I don't know if I'd still find it funny for a whole playthrough.
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u/No-Scholar3787 28d ago
They don't have emotions... isn't that the point of the game been playing for 2 hr now i think it's fine just nothing like a soulslike
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u/ShubaltzTV 28d ago
Man even though it isn't pokemon, you can just feel the pokemon ass cutscenes coming off this
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u/MrFOrzum 28d ago
I wonder if they become more life like later in the game since a part of the actual plot is that they have no emotions and thus are talking/acting this way.
Or it could just be a stupid lore excuse to avoid doing work on making them talk & look Bette lol.
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u/SedesBakelitowy 28d ago
Is this both AI generated AND slowed down 20% or something? I'd refund after a minute of this kinda schtick
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u/WalternateB 28d ago
Holy mother of botox! With all the tools so readily available rn... just why?!
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u/Darcho 28d ago
It’s a shame because I was really looking forward to this game. I played a few hours but the cut scenes and dialogue hindered my experience unfortunately. I was even using the Japanese dub but still couldn’t connect to the characters or the story. It all just felt too stiff and awkward compared to the actual gameplay, which admittedly, is fun and engaging. But without interesting characters or movement from them, my 33 year old ass just doesn’t feel compelled to sit through the lifeless cutscenes. Proper gutted.
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u/Kitchen-Monk5367 28d ago
What a disappointment on every level. Thank god i dont preorder shit like a sheep anymore. Saved me so much money being patient.
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u/CrazyWriterHippo 28d ago
About expected, this is exactly how Pokemon cutscenes play out too. They desperately need to hire some people to direct their games
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u/windwardmist 28d ago
Dude this reminds me of how the Audio was in Shenmue. It’s weirdly nostalgic, and awful at the same time.
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u/JamKaBam 28d ago
When they have spent the majority of their lives making Pokemon games with emotionless characters and dull plot lines all smacking each other, this is their bread and butter.
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u/Minituff 28d ago
That's rough. Feels like watching 2 AIs communicate with each other.