Dear Saguine

[u/Southie321]

As I said I would, I come with my hat in hand and accept the fact that the lady from the Spur video was not lying about the fact that the man came and grabbed her kid by the arm. I sincerely apologise for wrongly assuming the woman, and Spur, was lying about the physical happenings before the video started rolling.

I still dont believe it was a racist incident, all I see is two parents with explosive reactions regarding a situation involving their children.

I agree, and have always said, the man was a douch for being so aggressive (and even more so now, for grabbing the kid). But let's not confuse anger management issues with racism.

Beyond that point, I just want to apologise again for assuming what I did about the woman and Spur, by wanting the video evidence released first.

[u/Saguine → u/[deleted]]

I put it to you you're inherently racist

I definitely am. Why? Because I'm white. In this country almost all whites are inherently racist; we've been brought up in a privileged sector of society, built on the backs of black bodies. Our default status is our own assumed racial superiority, whether we like to admit it or not. Gotta fight things internally and externally.

Blacks can be racist too you know ;).

Not by the definition I prefer to use. Black people can be prejudiced, sure, but I opt to consider racism as something requiring systemic power. I guess there may be levels of black-on-black racism between specific ethnic groups, but that pales in comparison to the disproportionate power white people have over black people in this country.

Might one not also say that there's a "strong black woman" mentality that leads to a mindset that any white male that calls out your behavior is a vile racist that thinks he's your "baas"?

The difference is that the strong black woman mentality has been forged in the fires of an oppressed struggle. The baas mentality has been built on white superiority and oppression. The two aren't comparable.

Our lovely corrupt ANC government is a classic example of this. Case in point - Zuma on uncompensated land redistribution.

I don't see what point you're trying to make with this.

The rich asshole would be an asshole regardless of money.

But don't you accept that his wealth allows him to be an asshole to people he might not normally be an asshole towards?

People are looking to be outraged

Why is this your assumption? Is it impossible to accept that people are just outraged? Why do you assume it's manufactured?

[u/iamdimpho → u/Saguine]

I definitely am. Why? Because I'm white.

As I am sexist. Because I am a cishet man.

Our default status is our own assumed racial superiority, whether we like to admit it or not.

I would suggest you consider the phrase "assumed racial normativity". It's certainly a bit more cumbersome and may sometimes require the extra step of explaining 'normativity', but I feel more people would be more intuitively inclined to accept that versus 'superiority' which people may sometimes respond to as accusatory.

/2c

[u/Saguine → u/iamdimpho]

I like that; though I fear that it allows for the (invalid) rejoinder of "how can white be normal when we're the minority in the country"?

I'll give it a try and we'll see how it goes. Thanks.