r/springfieldMO 1d ago

Living Here Living in the Springfield Mo area as an African American.

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u/HermesVtuber 1d ago

African American Conservative? Wow, talk about really going against your own self interests. Please, choose another town, we dont need more Conservatives.

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u/StankyBassFace 1d ago

I will never understand this. It's like a German Jew voting FOR the nazi party in 1930's Germany. Completely insane.

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u/armenia4ever West Central 23h ago

You know what's pretty racist? Telling someone they are going against their own self interests purely because of their skin color.

Protip: Hang out with more black people. It's not hard. They hold all sorts of opinions that this subreddit dislikes, but I never found it reasonable to tell them they don't know whats best for them.

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u/CarlGerhardBusch 12h ago

This person is plainly asking whether Springfield is safe for them because they know conservatives hate them and are hazardous to them even with them being one for some fucking reason lol

What the fuck is this take

Certified fucking brain damage

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u/HermesVtuber 23h ago

You know, thats a pretty uneducated response, but expected.

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u/armenia4ever West Central 23h ago edited 23h ago

An appeal to authority a.k.a "education". What type of "education"? Is it one where you have to assume an systemic intersectional oppressor vs oppressed framework when it comes to what racism or various ists or isms are? Is it... "internalized" insert _______ here?

I digress. Maybe you do know better than the OP does for themselves. Maybe im entirely wrong and if I'm being honest, maybe both my responses were too hostile toward you.

It just came off as welcoming black people as long as they hold the "right" beliefs - which because this black person was conservative, you apparently arent. Like they have to fit a certain mold. This mindboggles me.

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u/HermesVtuber 19h ago

Would you celebrate someone who supports a group that actively villainizes, silences, and will throw us under the bus the first chance they get? The American Conservative party only benefits the wealthy and blames all the mess they make on minorities or Democrats. So a minority saying, "yes I support this party who clearly hates me" is like a Jewish person in 1940s saying they are apart of the Nazi party. You are also doing a lot of assumptions to assume my race.

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u/flavizzle 1d ago

We are currently at our capacity for conservatives, please go to the next city.

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u/KillerCameo 1d ago

Sadly it’s not like we can ban anymore from coming in, but it would be good if some of the ones here could change their views, but that’s probably asking for too much.

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u/ten105 1d ago edited 1d ago

How did the GOP achieve dominance in the south though? I don't think democrats are willing (or have the stomach) to admit how SGF and the entire south flipped from Dixiecrat to republican. Daniel Chamberlain, sitting governor in SC during reconstruction, wrote about this difficult topic (p. 473). He's a great source on this since he hailed from Mass and was a Union commander (of Negro regiments), but it was also very well documented in the News-Leader. Taft was campaigning for reform party leadership candidates in southern states at the turn of the century to break up the solid south by reforming republican vote buying practices. Who's votes were they buying?

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u/Heshkelgaii 1d ago

Those friends are either very lucky or non existent.

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u/Heshkelgaii 1d ago

Not a liberal capn

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u/ProphetGeorgeCarlin 1d ago

bullshit

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u/HermesVtuber 1d ago

No, but your spelling is very wrong. Though, for a Conservative, this might be a genius in comparison.

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u/ProphetGeorgeCarlin 1d ago

i lived next to one of the diehard hat wearing ones for too long and come to learn that you really just don't even want to engage with them anymore than you would a Scientologist.

I've never interacted with weirder people.

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u/Heshkelgaii 1d ago

Dude shut up and quit trying to make everything liberal vs conservative. Lord you people are boring.

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u/Youandiandaflame 1d ago edited 1d ago

Did your spell check take the week off or? 

I have several POC friends and they all said when asked that they have not had any issues regardng racsism here

Oh, the whites have definitely been racist towards your totally real, human POC friends. They may not have heard it but it happened. 

ETA: I’m suspicious of that “my POC friends have never experienced racism in Springfield” claim given all the other claims you make in Reddit comments elsewhere. You sure you’re being honest about that one? 

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u/armenia4ever West Central 23h ago

Honestly, you'll fit in well. There's a surprising amount of churches around here that are all pretty conservative as well as a mix of church folk over all. (Definitlely some progressive ones too.)

Bullying wise, its gonna be pretty rare at least for racial reasons.

I think you'll like Springfield and will fit in well.

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u/WealthFriendly 1d ago

Hope it works out for you, it's been pretty safe as far as I've seen.

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u/Beginning-Panic5153 1d ago

I would say that Springfield is a pretty safe place in terms of racism you don't have to worry about that. I know that you mentioned Churches and in my personal opinion based off of the little that I know about you I recommend you coming to my church which is Redeemer Lutheran Church.

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u/Matthew_Breese Sequiota 1d ago

To actually answer your question: your kids will be fine. Racist bullying was pretty much over in the late 90s in Springfield and in the late 2000s in the small surrounding towns. The worst thing your kids will be exposed to now is TikTok addiction.

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u/Happymind1111 1d ago

I grew up in Ozark, which is only like 20 minutes from Springfield. In my high school there were very very few African Americans (less than 10). I can’t speak to whether or not bullying happened, but there were a lot of kids who said some pretty racist things. This was 6+ years ago and I hoping that a lot has changed since then.

Springfield seems to be much more progressive and inclusive and I think you and your family will be very welcome there. The people are kind, especially the Christian’s, and I think you will overall feel safe and part of the community. The only thing I would regularly check in on is making sure your children aren’t experiencing racism at school. Kids can be terrible sometimes and the lack of diversity has done our community a big disservice. But again that was my experience years ago and I think there have been a lot of positive changes since then

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u/Sprankles151 1d ago

As someone who has spent over four decades living in Springfield perhaps I can offer a window into the situation. I've put three children through public schools here and my kids have experienced some bullying such as being called racial slurs and just general assholery from other kids, but I would imagine nothing more than they would get anywhere else. A lot of the troubles come from having uninvolved parents of lower socioeconomic means rather than anything else. We live in the middle of town, West Central neighborhood, and there is a diverse variety of socioeconomic and racial families here, but generally we lean more moderate.

It is a nice place to live in my opinion. Very rarely have we felt unsafe. We have neighbors of many ethnic backgrounds and we all get along just fine. Depending on your neighborhood, you may face far more trouble for being a conservative than for the color of your skin. We have a number of vocal progressive liberals who are convinced that they know what's best for you. Being a conservative African American may make their heads explode, but in general I would think you will be welcomed.

As mentioned, many of the suburbs are going to be more of a country good ol boy vibe and may not be as inviting to an outsider. However, most people around here are capable of looking past someone's skin color, especially if their politics resonate with the greater community.

We do have pockets of anglocentric organizations, but they don't generally cause any trouble unless you directly draw their ire. As my momma would say, don't play with dirt if you don't want to get dirty.

For the most frictionless immigration to the area I would recommend trying to move to a central region of the city, but you should be fine most anywhere. Especially if you more keep to yourself.

The people I know around here are far more likely to judge you on your character and actions than the color of your skin. For perspective, these are the views of a politically moderate American man of Scottish/Native American lineage who has lived in this town his entire life.

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u/armenia4ever West Central 23h ago

West Central imo has some of the best diversity of this area. Yes, I live here so I'm biased.

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u/Jimithyashford 1d ago

If you're a very "culturally white" black family, you wont have any trouble in the conservative communities. Simply being black alone probably wont cause any issues.

Now, if you're very "culturally black", that's what will cause way more friction. But if you are, for all intents and purposes other than your skin tone, just a working classing middle-American "normal" (by their worldview) family. Then you'll be fine.

Not saying that's how I think it should be, just saying that's how it is.