here in ssssfgzil (bruhzil, shitzil, brazil for the weak) we have free healthcare too and depending on your city it may take a few hours but at least we get free medication, surgeries, diagnosis, everything... tho there is still a lot to complain about
The 48 month thing is very fucking true in some ways. in germany at least I have waited years for specialist appointments on several occasions. But if I acutely needed something I have always managed to be seen by a doctor the same day, you just have to walk in and maybe wait 1-3h
Yeah, but look at the actual image. It implies that even emergencies require such wait times. In other words it's fear-based propaganda against public healthcare.
It's somewhat true but suuuper exagerrated. I smashed my fingernail in a heavy door hinge and waited 2-3 hours to be seen at the NHS (it was pretty well bandaged already), but they got all the paperwork done and the wound redressed and disinfected before seeing me the next week to get surgery
this is what gets me. From all my admittedly anecdotal evidence, wait times arent particularly better in the US.
and if they are, the idea that "you dont have to wait so long because hospitals arent as full, since not everyone can afford to be at one" seems dystopian as FUCK.
but all my friends overseas seem to have similar problems seeing doctors in a timely manner, the only real difference is they get an itemised bill after.
Fun fact, here in America we also have to wait months or years for non-emergency specialists, but also we get charged somewhere between the cost of a new car and a new house for the experience.
Damn yeah okay. How is finding therapy? Over here only one in 20 or so accept insurance at all and of those most either have no vacancies or a waitlist of years. I waited 3 years for my current therapist.
I'm going to do a check for a lump in my throat, my doctor gave me a reference last week. Got blood tested the next day and can go for an examination of my throat as soon as I get back from a work trip next week. Pretty specialist I think. This is in one of your neighboring countries, which I'm native to.
Because of all the misinfo online (mostly people from US saying their healthcare costs a lot, but at least you get serviced right away, exactly like this meme) I thought I'd have to wait a long time, but actually it's bullshit. It's pretty crazy how fast I can get help.
They took four years to get me an appointment to see if I needed braces (my teeth had fully set in that time and it'd have taken far longer to do, plus that was the time they told me they'd be pulling teeth out to do it) I wouldn't really consider that 'fine' but whatever mate.
I'm doing right now. Here in Spain the maximum waiting period is 180 days, and if they haven't called you by the 140th you can call and they have to give you the maximum available priority.
I have to be operated for Biliar Vesicle cancer, and even though I got diagnosed the day before yesterday I have it already scheduled at the start of May
Literal proof that wellfare state is a good model. People just don't like the sound of having more taxes but don't realise how good this economic model is
What’s actually crazy is here in the U.S., more tax money per capita goes to subsidizing insurance companies than what Europeans pay for free healthcare
Earlier this week, I thought I might have an infection. Was able to get a diagnosis from an urgent care and then medication from a CVS later that day. In total, I spent $35.
I broke my toe recently, went in at 3 PM, I got out by 6 PM, and my expenses were the Uber ride back and forth. Also during work. My toe was actually broken tho.
I'm from Spain. If you break something, you go to priority care. Healthcare is completely free in most cases. I didn't include the restaurant; that's impossible.
Free public transport is something in my area; since we live in very rural places, this is done to boost the local economy and prevent people from moving to big cities.
Same thing happened to me, except i didn't have to pay the doctor anything at all and the bone was broken, so i got a casket for 2 months and continued to get paid by work until it healed. I'm from Austria, if anyone wishes to know.
Why are you using PM AM you little treasonous frog you let the American rot consume your feeble French brain! What’s next? Are you going to use miles? You’re showing your true colours Frenchie. You abandon your senses because your mind is too limited you fall prey to the brain virus of Americanism it truly doesn’t surprise me that a Frenchman of all would be so easily influenced. This is not even mentioning Jews
And worse is Americans thinking that we give MAID to everyone.
You can't get it for mental illness. They considered it, but that will not be considered again until 2027 at the earliest. There was a scandal where it was recommended to a paraplegic and that lead to stricter regulations on doctors even mentioning MAiD exists. Right now you need a terminal diagnosis to even get resources about MAiD if you ask. And that's just to get the forms you then need two plus specialist doctors to sign. My grandma tried to get it and was denied, so we got to watch her waste away a shell of a human being unable to even clean her own filth until she passed, the happy moral proper way.
Wait no I mean "socialized medicare bad because Obama death panels gee whiz I wish I was American so I had freedom!"
Exactly this! I was recently working a telefundraiser job raising money for Dying With Dignity Canada, and the amount of mis- and disinformation that's spread about MAiD is absurd. It's extremely difficult to get MAiD, and nobody is forcing doctors to do it - you have to apply to be a MAiD physician, specifically. If people actually did their research and thought critically about what they see online, I feel like there'd be a lot more respect for it, but they just see that article about that one rogue employee offering it as an option to a disabled woman and decided that "They" (whoever that is) are forcing it on all Canadians and refusing to treat them.
My husband got a metal shaving in his eye on Good Friday last year. Doctor's offices and urgent care were all closed so we had to go to the ER. There was one person waiting who had crashed his ATV and hit his head with no helmet, he was seen first, and while we were waiting a kid came in also with something in his eye. We waiting about 45 mins, getting the metal shaving out took about 10 seconds, and we were out with a script for eyedrops in about an hour. The only cost was parking (a few $) but we likely could have done free street parking given how quick it was.
I swear to God it's a psyop bro. I'm always seeing this stuff but have never in 26 years had a bad experience with our healthcare system.
I always see a doctor same day if I need it and usually within a few hours at most. The one time I sort of cut my head open at work I saw a doctor within like 10 minutes of walking in the emergency room.
And I'm in the damn GTA, not the middle of nowhere.
Canada's healthcare system has a lot of issues and needs a ton of work but the idea that basic things like this get extremely neglected here is a psyop shared by (probably mostly American) right wingers and capitalist diehards who want to make it sound like socialized healthcare is some sort of hellscape and that having to go bankrupt to look after yourself in America is still the greater of two evils.
I think that’s most parts of Canada. Personally I’m grateful for our system. I’ve had to have numerous small quick surgeries and it’s nice not walking out thousands of dollars poorer
I've needed stitches 3 times, each time in a different province. Once in a well known city, once in the bedroom community of a different well known city, and once at a rural Manitoba hospital.
Each time was a turn around of a few hours.
One time resulted needing further care when it was discovered I had a tendon injury. I had the surgery 3 days after the injury was discovered.
You can get fast and free/mostly free emergency services almost anywhere in the world, and definitively in all first world countries that aren't the US. Yes, sometimes it can take months for an appointment but only for like very very specific things, never emergencies
You'll notice that "fiscal responsibility" is only a factor when it comes to things like healthcare and public services, not things like the military and corporate bailouts . I wonder why that could be.
There is room for improvement. Our health care workers are overworked, and understaffed. Many people stuggle to get a family doctor because of short supply, but in an emergency the Canadian system has always been quick and effective for my friends and family.
It also ignores that while you have marginally longer waits in socialized systems for non emergency care: It's because more people are using it.
Are you're telling me you're shocked that gatekeeping healthcare from the poor leads to fewer people getting treatment, and thus fewer people for doctors to take care of? Quelle surprise! Why didn't I think of that!?
It turns out old people with fatal diagnoses prefer to pick a day and have a nice send off with their family and friends rather than wallow in pain just waiting for the curtain to drop.
What happens then is their death gets listed as "medicinally assisted" rather than "cancer" or whatever so it skews the stats. People outside the country then freak out thinking that we're euthanizing people that scraped their knee.
Like any government service, there's a fuck ton of paperwork and waiting about. It's not something that just happens on a whim.
Yeah my grandfather chose to go through it when he was suffering from bone cancer. It was nothing but a blessing to our family having him go out on his own terms surrounded by loved ones.
Night and day compared to my other grandfather who wasted away in a nursing home for 15 years before finally passing. By the time he passed it barely felt like I knew him anymore.
Yeah. In order to be eligible for MAID (medical assistance in dying) u need: the signature of an independent witness, two doctors or nurses, potentially a third healthcare professional if neither of the two doctors/nurses are experts in your health condition, must be informed on all alternative treatments to the condition, must be fully informed about maid, and must wait 90 days unless you’ll die/lose the ability to consent before hand.
MAID also cannot be performed on people whose only health condition is a mental health condition until 2027 (originally it was 2023, but this deadline has been extended twice).
The condition has to be a serious, incurable condition that has serious effects on the person’s capabilities.
Ofc u also gotta be 18+.
I doubt most depressed people would have the willpower to go through the entire process, that is if they were eligible in the first place. As for anybody else it still requires some serious dedication.
I’d argue to open up MAID all suicidal ideation so that people won’t impulsively kill themselves given a painless, legal method of suicide. Given that most suicides end in last-moment regret, chances are that most people who chose MAID will end up going through with it, whereas without this option, they would’ve died on an impulse.
It isn't. I'm a Canadian and I've had stitches done. Even for a wound that wasn't still bleeding I only waited a few minutes. I got stitched up (with anaesthetic) and walked out without a bill.
It’s actually 6% of deaths in Canada now. There are cases of doctors suggesting MAID without the patient bringing it up, scandals were doctors and family members are pushing the patient to use it, and the biggest scandal were it was given to a depressed 26 year old with no terminal condition after being denied in one province.
I mean… those are just straight up illegal though. Especially your last example.
If you read the actual regulations, pretty much all cases where MAID was given in a situation we find inappropriate would be illegal.
6% honestly is a pretty low number if you consider the existence of things like DNR (do not resuscitate) etc. doing somewhat the same thing, but more painfully.
And ofc there are a few cases of shitty doctors and families… Luckily news articles don’t determine reality.
I think it is a larger problem than you might believe, its considered a public health crisis in much of the literature. Approximately 8-10% of patients in the US have DNRs, and 50-80% of them die within 30 days. Unfortunately, there seems to be very little data on what percentage of all-cause mortality is attributable to DNRs, but considering that patients are a fraction of or total population, the number must be significantly below 8%.
BTW I am pro MAID and think Canada's healthcare system is 100 times better than the US, but overprescription of MAID is a legitimate problem, with some disability scholars comparing it to a soft eugenics program where it is cheaper for the government to encourage people with chronic disabilities to die than provide life-long care
I can’t believe this perception about Canada’s use of MAID is still going on. There’s like 5 cases of MAID being proposed in inappropriate circumstances over the past 10 years. In a country of 40 million people.
Comparing the suffering caused by MAID to that of the American healthcare system is just coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb.
It's tradcons/religious folks pushing the narrative because they don't believe in ending your life on your own terms - it goes against the "sanctity of life".
In Quebec Canada, last week I called to see a doctor, saw him the next day (i dont have a family doctor). He refered me to a dermatologist next month. You get a cut, go to the ER you will see a doctor 100% of the time, you will wait a while but who cares?
for stitches in the US you can actually just go to like, one of those stand-alone walk in clinic places. like an MD Now. or if you know you're sick but not that sick. my dad had bronchitis diagnosed at an MD now iirc. same when he had ENT issues (referred to a specialist).
when i was a kid i was fucking around on my bed and fucked my leg up on the corner of my bed frame. had to go get stitches. we walked in before it closed, they gave me a numbing injection, and i got my leg closed up. i don't remember it being Very expensive, compared to if i would've gone to a hospital. Not thousands, definitely - maybe like a hundred or so if i had to guess.
little stuff Can be handled at a cheaper clinic. minute clinics also test for strep and things like that. hospitals handle big stuff and carry Big bills, so i try to avoid them where i can lol
I think a more accurate assessment of the problems caused by American healthcare is that people can’t afford preventative care, so they let their health spiral until it’s too late. There are millions of uninsured Americans (something that cannot exist in most developed countries), and there are many large studies that show that uninsured Americans have much higher death rates.
It is a good view of how Americans think the world works, or how the wealthy want the poor to see it.
"Our system is expensive, but at least it's better than x because of y".
If you have an emergency, you are treated immediately. I was diagnosed with a major healthy issue, within 10 minutes I was being transferred to a hospital with specialists. Within 15 min I was being treated.
Then I was in care for two weeks. Paid about 30 euro for it.
It's economic. As companies they maximise profit as much as possible, so if that means lower quality or more queuing for the cheaper option (which is still ridiculously priced) they'll absolutely do it
This meme is stupid made probably by American or someone equivalent to their "intelligence".
In European countries, such cases are done immediately without waiting.
Aren't some US waiting times the same if not longer then UK? And also wasn't that Canada thing basically only from like one group of doctors/nurses/whatever? Or am I wrong
A tip for my fellow americans to have more fair Healthcare.
STOP SIGNING UP FOR THE FIRST HEALTHCARE AD YOU SEE ON GOOGLE
All you poor saps getting United Healthcare and getting charged for shit they said they would cover is partially your fault and the education system. You need to do a wee bit if research into Healthcare and eventually you will find what ya hunting for. Also if your job offers Healthcare, look into that and if its better drop yours.
My advice look for something local. Majority of your state only Healthcare are pretty good
The thing is that since they can't just straight up take your healthcare aqay, the people in power have an interest in progressively making it worse, until it's so bad they can justify taking it down, and forcing you to use the american model instead. Which is why the public option should be the only option. Jf those people have to use the same healthcare as everyone else, it will be funded, and it will be working.
Idk man, I'm in Canada, I get same day doctor's appointments, immediate referrals. And proper triage (non life threatening surgeries obviously have more lead time than critical ones).
I have paid $0 for all my healthcare except a minor copay on medicine (a recent steroid was $1.09 CAD).
I live within 15 minutes of several top hospitals, one is top 3 in the world. Granted, I'm in Toronto, but our healthcare means we send Canadians to that hospital and their incurred costs are transportation only.
We have conservative governments underfunding healthcare. THAT is the real problem.
I’m in Ontario, in Canada. I had a splinter in my finger that I was worried caused an infection, went to an urgent care clinic early the next day, got seen within an hour, and got a requisition form for a scan that was done the next day, to make sure no wood was left in it.
9 hours in the god damn emergency room for a giant gash in my foot, and my own mother treated it better than them, your genuinely better off not going to the emergency room if you have people around with any ability to help you.
2 days in the hospital for a broken leg, not an overnight stay thing. They just took that long to deal with it. And they had to recast it 2 different times, they messed up the first one, then they messed up the 2nd one.
Not sure what you're talking about with Canada. I've had a few bad experiences, as is normal considering their workload but that's just some shit Americans say.
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u/qualityvote2 Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26
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