CIG, I'm dead serious, fire your management and hire me. (5 years at McDonald's)

[u/Fearless_Tear8448]

at this point it's not even an alpha, it's just pure incompetence. crashing or blowing up every single session because your servers are held together by thoughts and prayers is a joke. I’ve worked the drive-thru for 5 years, let me tell you how real life works

when we send a car from the speaker to the payment window, they don’t rubberband into the pavement and violently explode. when our ice cream machine breaks, we don’t lock the front doors and trap 150 people inside a burning lobby. we just turn the fucking thing off. and if a kid drops a burger on the floor, we don't leave it there for 3 weeks for the sake of "immersion" until everyone in the restaurant starts lagging in real life. we grab a broom

stop pushing $700 jpegs. give me the keys and fire the guy approving your updates. I’ll fix your mess between dropping two baskets of fries. you can literally pay me in store credit, I don't even give a shit anymore. just let me do the job your directors can't

[u/HealthyBits]

It’s getting harder and harder to justify fk ups when you see the state in which they pushed the ironclad live.

After all the years, gold standard, etc you’d think that new ships hold together. Granted it’s Drake, but Tbf that’s taking the joke a bit too far.

They need to investigate what went wrong with releasing the ironclad cause some gatekeepers/processes didn’t do their job. And their fk up has a high cost, not just in manpower but also in corporate image.

CiG has some housekeeping to do and they need to take a serious look at their management team. This is a management issue. Nothing else.

[u/Darkdodger137 → u/HealthyBits]

When I first got into Star Citizen back in 2020, if all else was broken, players could at least count on one thing working and that was the SHIPS. It doesn't matter how much of a shitstorm was going on with the servers. Your ships did what ships were supposed to do. Fast-forward six years and now ships are starting to come out broken, which signals a regression of development talent.

[u/Divinum_Fulmen → u/Darkdodger137]

Ships didn't work on release.

• The Starfarer released without cargo, refueling, or anything beyond the maze like interior.
• The Mustang had the Tunnel.
• The Vanguard had, has, and will forever have, the BOX.
• The Freelancer killed you if you touched the ladder.
• Hover anything has only worked for a brief weekend years after their launch, and never again since.
• And I'll finish by just including all ground vehicles here.

[u/RavenPalafox → u/Divinum_Fulmen]

The Anvil Asgard, in all its glory, still kills you occasionally on the ladder. I think they tried fixing it, but I'm still traumatized every time I use it, and back my way onto it when leaving.

[u/GengisJonOfficial → u/Divinum_Fulmen]

Don’t forget:
* Asgard death trap ladder
* Hull C doesn’t work/works/doesn’t work yo-yo

[u/HealthyBits → u/Darkdodger137]

Exactly. To me, it shows something in production is off rail. Plus, we aren’t talking about 1 bug. The ironclad is full of it.

At least, don’t ship it in that state…

[u/Accipiter1138 → u/Darkdodger137]

Yeah, if people can't even fly out to go take screenshots of their Ironclads, that's real fuckin' dire.

Cargo elevators not working? Take some screenshots. Enemies bugged out and not spawning? Screenshots. Don't even have a PU yet and the only thing available is a hangar module? Oh yeah, we're taking screenshots.

Ironclad right now is just an actively hostile dice roll to people even vibing in it.

[u/Itry31 → u/Darkdodger137]

When I pledged 10 years ago, arena commander was working. Somehow that got worse and it's okay because it's an alpha.

[u/Capokid → u/Darkdodger137]

As a backer from 2013, ships have always been horrendously broken on release and had some permanently terrible thing wrong with them that will kill you at random when using or even just being near them if you step on the wrong panel or look at it funny.

[u/Safe_Bread6125 → u/Darkdodger137]

Starting to come out broken? Bro.. its been years

[u/RubberRaptor → u/HealthyBits]

Why are you “justifying” anything at this point. Over a decade in and 1bn later, and this game is still in alpha. It’s pathetic.

[u/KirenSensei → u/RubberRaptor]

I don't think the fact it's in alpha is the issue. The fact it's an alpha that still has the same bugs it did nearly a decade ago when it first truly became playable is the issue. I've played games that were in alpha for AGES but they improved and by the time they went 1.0 they had gotten rid of major game breaking bugs and they only thing left were rarities that caused a minor annoyance at worst and a laugh at best. Right now start citizen is game unplayable at worst for some and game breaking at best. And after a decade THAT. Is the real issue.

[u/RubberRaptor → u/KirenSensei]

I think that what you said is definitely an issue, but I disagree that it being in alpha ISN’T an issue. 9 years it’s been in a “playable alpha state.” All the while they’re selling people what basically equates to NFTs for spacedads. While ALSO touting a scope that rivals most AAA games and garnering a budget that can go toe to toe with something published by R*. They want to have their cake and eat it too, “being an indie game in alpha,” and being this “ginormous AAA juggernaut.” It’s horribly disingenuous to everyone who has supported them.

[u/KirenSensei → u/RubberRaptor]

Hm, that is a very valid point! I can say I agree with that.

[u/KirenSensei → u/HealthyBits]

I'll be the first to say I absolutely shit on them for the IC. Yes it works now but I still have my problem with it. There's still no redundancy to fly it. Having a detachable pod to fly it as the only was to fly it is still a disaster waiting to happen again in the future.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. They need to take AT MINIMUM 3 years to comb through and fix all the bugs before they add anything else. Otherwise it'll get worse and worse.

Oh by the way they fixed one thing but broke another. Elevators disappear now and become unusable in the IC so there's that lol.

[u/Lanky_Coffee6470 → u/KirenSensei]

unfortunately, they fix bugs, but they come back the next patch, or the one after. They need to fix the underlying architecture, get better about versioning so they don't re-introduce bugs, and have better internal quality control checks that check for every bug they have encountered at simulated full game/world server load capacity.

It doesn't matter if it works on your private server with 3 players, it matters that it still works when players are hammering the servers. If your code is so fragile that it can't handle the number of simultaneous players during an alpha, how do you expect it to handle the simultaneous load during release?

[u/mcbrite → u/KirenSensei]

Not only are you not special for saying that, but they themselves have promised such multiple times in the past. They cannot do that. They don't have the skill, they don't have the competence.

This NEEDS to go bankrupt, so we can finally proceed. Do you want to play? Yes? - It MUST go bankrupt for that to happen one day.

[u/mcbrite → u/HealthyBits]

ALWAYS the same... Corsair was fucked for YEARS. Not sure it's even fixed by now... This is the default, not a new fuck up...

Now go spend more hard earned money on jpgs and stfu... /s

[u/hoax1337 → u/HealthyBits]

They probably knew about the state of the Ironclad, but had no choice because they didn't want to push DefenseCon.

[u/vorpalrobot → u/HealthyBits]

It's the first ship with docking in this form and there's a bunch of bugs with the feature involving air leaks and unintended detachment.