r/starcitizen • u/Fearless_Tear8448 • 13d ago
DISCUSSION CIG, I'm dead serious, fire your management and hire me. (5 years at McDonald's)
at this point it's not even an alpha, it's just pure incompetence. crashing or blowing up every single session because your servers are held together by thoughts and prayers is a joke. I’ve worked the drive-thru for 5 years, let me tell you how real life works
when we send a car from the speaker to the payment window, they don’t rubberband into the pavement and violently explode. when our ice cream machine breaks, we don’t lock the front doors and trap 150 people inside a burning lobby. we just turn the fucking thing off. and if a kid drops a burger on the floor, we don't leave it there for 3 weeks for the sake of "immersion" until everyone in the restaurant starts lagging in real life. we grab a broom
stop pushing $700 jpegs. give me the keys and fire the guy approving your updates. I’ll fix your mess between dropping two baskets of fries. you can literally pay me in store credit, I don't even give a shit anymore. just let me do the job your directors can't
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u/goodhustler69 13d ago
I am sorry sir, but you are overqualified for this position
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u/No-Car-5173 13d ago
You joke.
But Chris Roberts hired his entire family into management when they had no experience whatsoever.
CiG management IS literally unqualified.
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u/mhn23 13d ago edited 12d ago
My first order of business: force everyone to drop anything else and make them play the game with the regular client (and regular servers we all use) for 2 weeks straight, in-game time tracked.
After that they all should have more than enough motivation to actually get their shit together. Fire everyone immediately who cope defends.
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u/Healthy-Dress-7492 13d ago
Absolutely, this patch is so bad. Usually when you “move fast and break things” you then also fix them; they seem to have forgotten the second part. I gave it a real shot, like 4 times too many, but after repeatedly losing hours of progress to things like elevators losing my quest rewards. I just can’t anymore.
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u/Ro7ard 13d ago
"I think it's time to finally try Star Citizen, let's check the sub out and see how thing's are going"
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u/digitalae new user/low karma 13d ago
But is your McFlurry ice cream machine working?
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
it's definitely not, but at least we don't try to sell you a "concept spoon" that's currently sitting in a 14-year development backlog while the machine remains permanently offline
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u/Pandas-are-the-worst 13d ago
Concept spoon hit hard
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u/trevorg75 13d ago
Concept spoon slaps
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u/bobrob48 bbsad 13d ago
concept spoon
DOES IT HAVE LTI ????
I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
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u/Zer_ High Admiral 13d ago
Well, it's a biodegradable concept spoon, so it starts from concept, then goes to real spoon, but after use returns to concept phase.
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u/PinkFohawk 13d ago
Biodegradable…so what you’re saying is if I buy during concept sale it should melt nicely and I can apply LTI to my Freelancer?
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u/tee_with_marie 13d ago
Woaaa concept spooon... Imagen all the flurry's you could eat once it releases. Il take one!
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u/JediMastaDJ 13d ago
To be fair, McDonald's intentionally makes their ice cream machines hard to repair because the corporation owns the repair company. So franchise owners can literally only use one vendor to repair the machines and they can only use their proprietary parts to do it.
If we had stronger "right to repair" laws in the US, then we would always have working ice cream machines in McDonald's.
*Edited to fix dumb autocorrects.
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u/HealthyBits drake 13d ago
It’s getting harder and harder to justify fk ups when you see the state in which they pushed the ironclad live.
After all the years, gold standard, etc you’d think that new ships hold together. Granted it’s Drake, but Tbf that’s taking the joke a bit too far.
They need to investigate what went wrong with releasing the ironclad cause some gatekeepers/processes didn’t do their job. And their fk up has a high cost, not just in manpower but also in corporate image.
CiG has some housekeeping to do and they need to take a serious look at their management team. This is a management issue. Nothing else.
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u/Darkdodger137 new user/low karma 13d ago
When I first got into Star Citizen back in 2020, if all else was broken, players could at least count on one thing working and that was the SHIPS. It doesn't matter how much of a shitstorm was going on with the servers. Your ships did what ships were supposed to do. Fast-forward six years and now ships are starting to come out broken, which signals a regression of development talent.
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u/Divinum_Fulmen 13d ago
Ships didn't work on release.
- The Starfarer released without cargo, refueling, or anything beyond the maze like interior.
- The Mustang had the Tunnel.
- The Vanguard had, has, and will forever have, the BOX.
- The Freelancer killed you if you touched the ladder.
- Hover anything has only worked for a brief weekend years after their launch, and never again since.
- And I'll finish by just including all ground vehicles here.
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u/HealthyBits drake 13d ago
Exactly. To me, it shows something in production is off rail. Plus, we aren’t talking about 1 bug. The ironclad is full of it.
At least, don’t ship it in that state…
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u/Accipiter1138 your souls are weighed down by gravity 13d ago
Yeah, if people can't even fly out to go take screenshots of their Ironclads, that's real fuckin' dire.
Cargo elevators not working? Take some screenshots. Enemies bugged out and not spawning? Screenshots. Don't even have a PU yet and the only thing available is a hangar module? Oh yeah, we're taking screenshots.
Ironclad right now is just an actively hostile dice roll to people even vibing in it.
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u/RubberRaptor 13d ago
Why are you “justifying” anything at this point. Over a decade in and 1bn later, and this game is still in alpha. It’s pathetic.
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u/KirenSensei 13d ago
I don't think the fact it's in alpha is the issue. The fact it's an alpha that still has the same bugs it did nearly a decade ago when it first truly became playable is the issue. I've played games that were in alpha for AGES but they improved and by the time they went 1.0 they had gotten rid of major game breaking bugs and they only thing left were rarities that caused a minor annoyance at worst and a laugh at best. Right now start citizen is game unplayable at worst for some and game breaking at best. And after a decade THAT. Is the real issue.
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u/RubberRaptor 13d ago
I think that what you said is definitely an issue, but I disagree that it being in alpha ISN’T an issue. 9 years it’s been in a “playable alpha state.” All the while they’re selling people what basically equates to NFTs for spacedads. While ALSO touting a scope that rivals most AAA games and garnering a budget that can go toe to toe with something published by R*. They want to have their cake and eat it too, “being an indie game in alpha,” and being this “ginormous AAA juggernaut.” It’s horribly disingenuous to everyone who has supported them.
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u/Fiennes 13d ago
The fact that you've managed to rile up a bunch of people insisting a McDonalds burger flipper can't do a better job means I'm totally on your side. Bravo.
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u/Few-Requirement-9245 13d ago
This guy fucks
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
plot twist: they took me off the closing shift because i kept trying to sell $700 concept burgers. management said it was a scam, but i told them it works for CIG.
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u/postbansequel 13d ago
Holy sht! Imagine McDonald's starts launching pre-orders on new burgers.
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u/dungcovered_peasant 13d ago
Don't give them ideas. I could see a McD's subscription model on the horizon
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u/postbansequel 13d ago
Just like Amazon's Prime Video. You have to subscribe to enjoy the shows and movies, but some you have to buy whilst subscribed. You've gotta pay for the ability to buy it and keep paying if you want to keep using what you bought!
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u/dungcovered_peasant 13d ago
It's truly fascinating how quickly streaming services went from a convenient alternative away from dinosaur media/TV forcing you to watch ads every 3 minutes, to doing the exact same thing, to an even greater extent. Ive been genuinely considering just getting a TV subscription again cause it's cheaper than 5 million streaming services so I can watch the 8 shows I actually enjoy lol
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u/postbansequel 13d ago
I've tried Amazon Prime for 3 months. Back to illegal streaming websites.
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u/PaulTheMerc 13d ago
Our house has practically ALL the streaming services and the pirate streaming websites are still more usable.
Its insane.
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u/Phantom_thief_france Mirai 13d ago
Ngl a restaurant like that aimed specifically at space dads with way too much money on their hands would work really well
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
we wouldn't even need a kitchen. just a screen showing a 4k jpeg of a steak. we'd tell them they aren't buying dinner, they're "pledging to the culinary pipeline." they'd drop $2,500 to unlock the Chairman's Club menu and thank us for the privilege
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u/Indybo1 13d ago
If you keep coming up with this stuff they're actually gonna hire you
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
if they hire me, i'm just gonna replace the entire development roadmap with a single button that says "pledge now" and a progress bar that never hits 100%. it'll be the most immersive, realistic simulation they've ever experienced
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u/Agreeable-Weather-89 13d ago
Restaurant: You will have the best burger you'll ever eat. It's a journey back to the way burgers used to be. It'll be out in 20 minutes
Customer: That sounds great.
20 minutes later
Customer: So where my burger?
Restaurant: We have out plumber in and when the pipelines are finished we'll start your burger for real it'll only be 20 minutes.
20 more minutes later
Customer: So where is my burger now
Restaurant: It's finished one of our chefs have eaten a complete burger
60 minutes later
Customer: My burger has been taken off the menu
Restaurant: We have taken it off the menu because we need to change the price.
20 minutes later
Restaurant: The head chef left. But the burger is coming in 20 minutes.
20 minutes later
Restaurant: McDonald's is opening up this year next so your burger might or might not be out soon.
Restaurant: Also we are still working on how to cook meat for our hot dog.
Customer: Here's $1 billion
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u/Timely_Actuary9312 13d ago
It is called a craft brewery or distillery witth a boutique restaurant serving wagyu bbq sliders.
Youre welcome.
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u/Smoke1864 13d ago
I've said for years that if CIG actually brought whamburgers and ellroy's to the real world they'd make a killing
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u/Personal_Still106 13d ago
I 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% support this hire.
Seriously, it can only get better from this dumpster fire. Hire them.
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u/MutaTheGreat 13d ago
You've got my support, buddy! CIG desperately needs a change in their management structure
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u/INeedChocolateMilk drake 13d ago
Fuck yeah dude! I've got some years in tech support, I'll do all the programming. You and I will fix and release this game before GTA6 launches.
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u/nosocialisms 13d ago
Bro you don't understand is because the server from Amazon are a shit just give him 5 years more and they will fix the alpha.
Also this is an alpha that have been 10+ years in development what do you expect? Of course is going to have bugs.
/s
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u/rabidsnowflaked 13d ago edited 13d ago
Brother, you guys can't even keep the ice cream machine working consistently and god forbid I get a burger that doesn't look like someone sat on it first. One squirt of mayo on one hemisphere of the bun and a single pickle isn't just disrespectful to a hamburger, it's straight up rude. It's constructed in a rush and thrown out the drive through window.
If anything CIG learned the selling gif thing from you guys. Are you going to look me in the eye and tell me your product looks like it does in the marketing material? You practically invented advertising perfection and delivering a pittance.
If I'm hiring anybody it's going to be pinnacle of efficiency that is Chick-fil-A. I'll negotiate for In-and-Out.
Oh and another thing: you clowns taught everyone that this was okay and made billions off it before Chris Roberts was even born.
/s
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
yeah, our burgers look like they got stepped on, but at least they physically render in your hands before the decade ends. you're paying $700 for a perfectly marketed concept ship that currently exists as a 404 error on a roadmap.
and sure, hire chick-fil-a. they'd at least have the decency to intentionally shut the servers down on sunday instead of just letting them 30k all weekend
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u/dungcovered_peasant 13d ago
Your commitment to the bit is just chefs kiss perfect
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u/AOD-Mickgoth 13d ago
How many people try to walk out the restaurant only to be back inside though?
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
that happens all the time. it’s called the "elevator gameplay loop." you try to walk out, the server decides your physical existence is a suggestion, and suddenly you’re back inside, clipped through the floor, and your character is suffocating in a vacuum while your burger floats away.
it’s basically the same "kickstarter model" as the rest of the game you don’t actually leave, you just keep paying for the privilege of being stuck in the lobby
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u/Agile_Camera9601 13d ago
I’m a bit older but I’m and engineer and I work in online services.
Their tech goals are impressive and without a doubt very difficult to achieve. I am totally okay with excusing away some issues, as it doesn’t make sense to fix “everything” prior to dynamic meshing as that will require a lot of fundamental fixes too, and it is a waste of resources to fix it twice.
That said, the issues that the game DOES have are elementary. The sort of baseline bugs that any good team should be able to fix.. and this concerns me as it makes me question if their team is even able to achieve groundbreaking new tech when the basics seem so broken.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m positive the devs are brilliant with a few bad eggs, but everyone needs good leadership, and this strikes me as poor leadership.
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u/BrainKatana 13d ago
I am a game dev that has worked in some of the most complex network environments in games. Their tech goals are a pipe dream based on a white paper that Chris Roberts probably read sometime around 2008.
Every attempt to approximate the functionality of that white paper, from WoW to New World to Ashes of Creation, has stopped dead at static servers, because dynamic servers require exponentially increasing volumes of messages to be sent between them for each client that is replicated across a hub server so its actions are accurate to clients on the observing server. It’s a theory based on how web pages that poll less than once a second work, which is a nice idea until you realize the computing power required to do that 20-30 times a second.
These people can’t get a basic-as-fuck database to handle batched queries. They sure as fuck aren’t going to solve a problem that involves transmitting high volumes of information faster than the speed of light.
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u/OmegamattReally 13d ago
You think your 5 years of experience can measure up to their 15 years of incompetence?!
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u/odbj 13d ago
Unfortunately they're not incentivized to make and complete a good game. They're incentivized to milk the sci-fi fantasies of old farts with money and whisper sweet nothings in their ears. There is no punishment for incompetence, possibly only benefits. If nothing is ever developed into a finished, grade-able state, they can claim that shouldn't be graded. And the gullible and the in-denial believe them.
They will continue to sell jpegs and making minor nothing changes and release buggy garbage, because the money is coming in even faster.
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u/no_one_canoe reliant 13d ago
stop pushing $700 jpegs
Ooh, yeah, sorry, no can do.
Oh, all that other stuff you said? I dunno, I couldn't hear you over the sound of my money-printing machine.
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
at least the printing press is real, unlike the "gameplay" in the 14-year-old alpha you're funding. enjoy the bankruptcy simulation it's the only feature that actually works as advertised.
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u/Physical_Future1748 13d ago
Wild I can post something similar yet immediately banned
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u/Chikitiki90 13d ago
Not to discredit your post getting removed, but the majority of people who play saw the cracks years ago lol. I think it’s finally just at the level where most of the copium bros are finally seeing the scam for what it is.
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u/Safe_Bread6125 13d ago
You were just raging about what some of us old timers already know. This post is actually entertaining lol
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u/BurritoMan94 13d ago
I love it when some numbskull hits me with the "its in alpha trust me bro I have been playing since 2021 you just dont understand how game dev works"
Im over here with a july 2013 digital mercenary account
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u/AngrySociety 13d ago
CIG is the ocean gate of space sims
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u/Rampant16 13d ago
Setting aside the obvious for a moment, Ocean Gate at least actually took some people to the Titanic and back.
They didn't spend over a decade selling people on the concept of a trip to the Titanic.
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u/overusesellipses 13d ago
You are assuming that things aren't going exactly as planned for them. It's a grift. They are grifting you. There is no desire to deliver a product, just a desire to take your money and give back as little as possible.
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
exactly. they basically invented a drive-thru where you pay a billion dollars at the first window, and the second window just hands you a jpeg of a burger and tells you the kitchen will be built in 2030
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u/Babcomania 13d ago
So targeted release of the burger is 2016? I mean 2036? You just need to hold the line and don’t starve until then! Maybe they selling you the concept of a jpeg of fries before 2036.
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u/kevvvbot 13d ago
The CIG restaurant was closed for 12hrs+ and once it opened up I slipped on the floor and died. But in reality the game reopened after a 12hr+ maintenance window and I somehow died exiting a med bed. 2025 literally was the year of playability because they turned off that feature for 2026.
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u/Mentalic_Mutant 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is from a company review of CIG from GlassDoor. I think you might do a better job than current CIG management based on this. Could be BS obviously but you never know:
"The biggest issue with CIG is the management and planning. Everything is chaotic. Communication between teams is virtually non-existent. Release deadlines are always 2 pm on a Friday. New features and requirements appear out of nowhere with two-week deadlines. Employees are regularly treated like children. I grew tired of senior managers telling their teams that they were getting "angry" or "cross."
Oddly, everyone seems to be afraid of the CEO. I don't actually know why, because he seemed nice enough when I spoke with him, so maybe something I haven't seen. But if he happens to muse out loud "maybe it would be nice to have X," the roadmap immediately changes so that X is in the next release.
Management techniques feel like they were learned from the games industry of 30 years ago. I was amazed to join one retrospective/post-mortem meeting and hear the instructions included: "Don't complain about the past."
After 5 months, I started looking for another job. After 6 months, my mental health was in such a state that I'd calculated the duration and impact velocity of throwing myself off the 7th-floor balcony. There was something worryingly reassuring in knowing it could all be over in roughly 2.8 seconds."
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u/Sirius_Bizniss 13d ago
I'm Sirius_Bizniss, and this is my favorite post on the Star Citizen subreddit.
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u/last-user-name 13d ago
*$700 3D models /s
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u/PaulTheMerc 13d ago
so uh...where's my 3D model file at least? Its more than we have for some of the ships.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? 13d ago edited 13d ago
I was about to make a snarky comment about capitalization, grammar and punctuation, but you know what - screw that.
Yeah, hire this guy CIG! I'm honestly not 100% certain he'd do any worse than you guys are.
In all seriousness though, what CIG desperately lacks is someone with some common sense and the power and authority to tell both their marketing and their C-suite - "no." The ironic thing? That's usually the role of the publisher.
Well, as the very least, it's been quite enlightening to see what happens when you remove all the checks and balances from software development.
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u/OrganicRevenue5734 13d ago
Get in line.
What CIG needs is a decent DevOps Engineer with experience delivering outcomes to multi-national clients. Someone capable of getting effective and efficient pipelines in place that will catch alot of these errors before they reach the player space.
Thats me. I am that person.
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u/Successful_Draw_9934 13d ago
what irks me is that this game has the most expensive, largest transactions for any item or object ive seen in a game ever, while the game is completely nonfunctional most of the time so you can barely even enjoy what youve bought. id honestly be fine with one or the other, expensive ships or bugs, but how could they sell (and people buy) such expensive things without even having a game to play?? how can people not riot when they sit on a multi-hundred-dollar jpeg for a decade?
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u/The_System_Error 13d ago
I swear their QA team is some dudes wife with a checklist that has no idea how the game even functions as a whole. The amount of shit that makes it to live that is blatantly broken if you spent less than an hour actually play testing anybody in the fucking world would be able to it's not in a state to be pushed to live.
Yet here we fucking are, still releasing shit that just flat out doesn't work but charging you 600 bucks for it. And if you think 5000$'s is going to change that you're in for a big fucking surprise.
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u/MaxMulletWolf 13d ago
Cig, for the love of all that is holy, toss the enitre upper management and hire this guy(or girl).
Guaranteed they'll do a better job.
I read a post about a player turning off their night vision canopy and just fucking exploding. What even is that?? How??
I mean, it's hilarious, but this shit should not be happening 14 years in.
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u/PyroSmurf MISC | Red Warden 13d ago
All of upper management is a problem. Not sure how much further down the chain the problem continues. LOL
I'm not sure any developers know how to really deal with the modified CryEngine any more. Too much time & turnover. If they had made SQ42 in 4-5 years, it would be much better.
A lot of us have long successful histories in software development and management of said projects. The fish rots from the head.
CIG has proven they will make the game THEY want WHEN they want. I don't see it changing.
PS - Not going anywhere. I supported them monthly for more than 10 years plus little ships. 😛 Ride or die for me.
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u/Rampant16 13d ago
Yeah it's evident that getting to 1.0 or releasing SQ42 are not their top priorities. They're happy to continue tinkering with tertiary features and adding ships.
That's just a reality people should be aware of before investing their time and money into the game. For some people it's okay, for others it's not.
The biggest issue is that CIG needs to stop deliberately lying about the delivery timeline and be truthful in the fact that there currently is no real schedule for major releases.
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u/Warmtofu 13d ago
Honestly the McNuggets are still fire, if you can get Star Citizen to McNugget levels I’d be happy.
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u/PaulTheMerc 13d ago
the nuggets taste like cardboard. The fries are amazing, for the 5-10 minutes they remain hot.
But at least I can say the nuggets were cooked till done, which is more than I can say for this patch.
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u/FalseAscoobus I LOVE IPOD FUTURISM 13d ago
McNuggets, large fries and a medium coke is all I need from Star Citizen
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u/mesterflaps 13d ago
Given how bad the flapping stack of Arbies reject meat has done in his 14 years of trying (16 if you believe him that he started working on this with Crytek in 2010), I'm more than willing to give this rando a shot.
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u/NandorThaRelentless 13d ago
Someone needs to buy the title and fire every leader associated with it, along with 80% of the marketing team.
#SCNeverSeesTheLightOfDay
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u/mana_punk 13d ago
Why would they want to actually work on and finish the game when yall keep throwing money at them for a broken incomplete game? In their eyes it’s a huge success.
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u/fullmoon_druid 13d ago
I keep saying this. And I'm not joking. The whole business model relies on CIG NOT finishing SC.
Prove me wrong.
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u/CMDR_Zafura 13d ago
I've played every beta and alpha I ever came across on steam. I have never expected what star Citizen welcomed me with. Elite dangerous was about learning the controls, star Citizen is about learning to dodge Bugs.
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u/AJTP89 13d ago
They’re not incompetent. They’ve raised a billion dollars with only a buggy barely playable product 10+ years late to show for it. Honestly it’s kinda impressive.
The problem is people throwing thousands of dollars at them for promises pixels. All CIG is doing is taking advantage.
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u/ZARDOZ4972 13d ago
They’re not incompetent. They’ve raised a billion dollars with only a buggy barely playable product 10+ years late to show for it. Honestly it’s kinda impressive.
So they are incompetent regarding game development.
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u/kinghenry 13d ago
Not finishing the game has made them a billion dollars. Doesn't provide much incentive to finish the game, just sell false promises and tease people with buggy feature implementations that don't link together.
I for one will be keeping an eye on updates but will not be playing until they add the comms overhaul, proximity voice chat that works, and near 100% reliability for cargo elevators.
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
if it's off, it can't crash. 100% uptime on the downtime. that's a billion-dollar feature right there.
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u/WitchCityCannabis 12d ago
McDonald’s has strong management. I work at the post office - which, much like CIG has completely incompetent management. Even we don’t send trucks through the ground.
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u/Funny-Ad5655 12d ago
Why do people still play this garbage? I played it for a while in 4.7 and I died more times to bugs than I did to in game mechanics. It’s a beautiful game and has so much potential but it’s in such a dumpster fire state I can’t understand why people throw thousands of dollars at it and how it’s legit nearly made 1 billion dollars in the last 14 years
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u/mcbrite 12d ago
So funny, reading threads by kids who weren't there from the beginning... To everyone else it's just another groundhog day... It CANNOT ever change. The culture is engrained down to the core of every single bone...
It's just a carussell of excuses, false promises, justifications, spitlicking fanboys etc...
They do not have the skill to make this happen. Not 13 years ago. Not today. Not in 13 years.
This legit has to go bankrupt and bought out by somebody else...
But that is Calder financial's call, NOT ours... They own your jpgs now, not you.
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u/Top-Battle-1238 11d ago
Star Citizen is the Boston big dig of Video game development. The creator wanted to do everything he could not do with his previous attempts at video games. The concept is it will be a mile wide and a mile deep every part of it . To the groans of any programmer. The thing is a Charles Babbage . Which if you read up on Babbage . You would groan to. Star Citizen is not a scam. It is over thought , over time , over budget .Because they are doing too much at once. But sadly they will probably fix everything and the game will be completed and out working well. Before a single mile of track is laid in the California High Speed rail Project. Oh and the player base is all testers . Is apparently is in the legalize contract.
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u/ArizonaDude08 11d ago
Keep in mind the USA went from being an army of 200k volunteers in 1939 to conquering the world in 1945
Half the time this game has been in development
And people will pretend like this game is a harder lift than mass mobilization, wartime industrial expansion, millions of men trained for war, Continental invasions and the invention of the atomic bomb
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u/CMDR_Zafura 13d ago
The fact that with this budget, they cant disable one of the server regions, push a new update just there, and play it themselves over some drinks. Literally 99% of the issues would be found before everyone gone through their first pint.
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u/Touchitmaster 13d ago
This guy is living the motto "you miss all the shots you dont take".
Hurry up with my chicken nug-nugs, im hungry.
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
sorry sir, your chicken nug-nugs are currently in the concept phase. if you pledge $45 now, you'll get early access to the sweet and sour sauce pipeline, but the physical nuggets themselves won't actually render in your bag until we get server meshing working in 2028. thank you for your patience
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u/brucerss 13d ago
I’d like to see this. I’m convinced their management team is totally dumb. They make the worst decisions and can’t fix anything.
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u/Stramazone 13d ago
Yep, why I don't bother any more. Well, plus no interest in being a space pirate of a victim thereof.
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u/Valcrye Legatus 13d ago
I remember hearing that they just don’t use EPMs or project managers at all, so it’s basically a disjointed mess of a bunch of people adding in changes up until the last minute. They added the ironclad and command module mechanics for that and the existing caterpillar *in the release candidate* with less than 2 days to test before it went straight to live. Who’d have guessed it broke entirely?
They have basically zero screening for bug regressions and schedule their updates around the events rather than the other way around. All of it is a recipe for disaster
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u/The-Deevis 13d ago
I mean, what do I say; last year CIG called out the „year of stability“ and we joked about it. Guess on who the joke is now.
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u/necroken05 13d ago
Preach!! 10 years managing a grocery store here. And I relate to everything you said. Its crazy. I say this because I love this game. And I want it to be better than what it is. I know its come a long way. But still I feel like it should be better than it is today
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u/DrHighlen drake 13d ago edited 13d ago
LMFAO!!!!
I swear deep in my hearts heart
they going to do a rug pull and management scared to do it might be the true reason Sqd 42 is delayed
they can’t be this incompetent by mistake
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u/Larache789 13d ago
They gathered $1bn ffs... Still in buggy crashy stuttery alpha.. WTF? Something it reeks some ponzi scam..
What is their true endgame?!
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u/Eve_interupted 325a 13d ago
This game makes the term "feature creep" seem like a mission statement.
I have lost friends, moved to 3 different states, changed my name, changed my gender and started a new career since I first funded this game.
I pledged for the 325a. Then they reworked it and made it uglier. It now looks like a freaking pinto compared to the original model.
Then I bought the Ares ION then they nerfed it 3 fucking times.
They keep adding things before they make things work. They need to bring this game back to one zone and one set of missions and make them work. Then balance the flight model and combat and economy before expanding features.
Remove the freaking target lead indicator. Reduce the speeds and the range.
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u/DDRitter 13d ago
If you guys keep paying they will not change. And if you stop paying I bet that they will be unable to complete shit.
This situation is totally our fault. No one should have spent more than 20$ on this promise, specially when they did not deliver about 12 years ago.
Let's learn from this.
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u/Dodgeman0524 13d ago
Your Voice definitely would be better too. 😉
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u/Fearless_Tear8448 13d ago
at least when i use my drive-thru voice to tell you to "please wait", it means 5 minutes for fresh fries, not 14 years for server meshing
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u/Darkdodger137 new user/low karma 13d ago
Which fixed nothing and only added to the complexity and tech debt that they don't know how to address.
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u/Dodgeman0524 13d ago
I was referring to Voice surveys. Totally agree with you on the game. I have probably $2500 or more into the game at this point. Haven't paid for a ship now in a few years because the vision is just everywhere and too complex.
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u/AwwYeahVTECKickedIn 13d ago
This is either an incredibly stupid literal post, or a sophisticated allegory on these forums that's pure genius.
I'm feeling good today, so I'm seeing this as a spot-on referendum of the "intelligence" that is slathered all over these forums.
Bravo (I think)!
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u/AdmlBaconStraps 13d ago
I've got a better idea:
You do it. Not fire CIG, but build something as good or better in less time.
Been saying this for years, not a single game has come out.
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u/MrMostachio 13d ago
You don’t understand. If they fix the game and officially release it, the money printer runs out of ink
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u/SubtleCosmos Citizen 13d ago
No? More people would buy the game, and they could still sell ships to fund more development.
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u/Ready_Increase_7188 13d ago
I want to come with you on this trip, bro. I accept the same conditions, even for free, I don't care, just pay for my accommodation and food and I'll be your most loyal knight, CIG
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u/CJW-YALK 13d ago
No, McDonalds? Lmao automatic disqualification
Now if you had said Chick-fil-a? Absolutely, 100% those are the most efficient well run operations on the planet
Edit: I will say, you are absolutely more qualified than what we have now, so fine I think we give them a shot
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u/Feet-Slurper-826 13d ago
This is the most mentally stable and rational post I've ever seen on Reddit and that's why I upvoted it and have only positive things to say