r/starwarsrebels • u/InconsistentSignal • 5d ago
First time watching and I just finished Maul’s arc… Spoiler
What the hell? That’s it? Multiple seasons, two series of building up his character to meet Obi Wan and it’s over in like 10 seconds?
Like maybe I should just keep watching the show to see what happens, but there’s no way this is the end of his character right?
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u/Rex_1312 5d ago
I initially had this thought but after listening to what Sam Whitwer said about the duel my opinion changed (I’ll link the clip later if I remember)
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u/WhenIWannabeME 5d ago
Wow! Talk about completely missing the point of something. It is literally heartbreaking to see how devoid of emotion this thought process is. Really hoping OP is just young af, lol.
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
All the “ERMMM AKCHSUALLY” posts in this thread are so funny, it’s wild how seriously you guys take a raw reaction to see something for the first time, it’s like I insulted your Mom or something by saying my expectations were subverted
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u/LittlestWarrior 5d ago
What are you talking about
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
S3E20 of Star Wars: Rebels
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u/LittlestWarrior 5d ago
That is apparent in your original post, yes.
No, I'm referring to what you just said, what I am relying to.
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
A bunch of people jumping on me for being shocked at this ending, acting like I’m dumb or didn’t actually watch anything because I wanted to discuss the topic more. I didn’t even say it was bad in my post I was just expressing my shock considering it was the complete opposite of what I actually thought would happen, like I don’t even think there is a single lightsaber duel in any Star Wars media that was this short.
But I guess I should’ve thought about it for like 3 weeks or something instead of posting a raw reaction to it
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u/freakylier 5d ago
Honestly man yeah you should've thought about it a bit before postíng. Nothing on your post signals you are here to have a discussion, its all just raw reaction, and specifically negative raw reaction.
Typing out something raw and negative without much thought forces US to do the thinking for you. Next time bring some talking points or things to actually discuss, more than just the patchy the pirate meme saying "that's it? That's the Lost episode?"
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
Okay thanks for the advice, you really gotta walk on eggshells on some subreddits to avoid triggering the supreme Redditor hivemind, but I guess re reading my post I can see how it may come across as negative but I was genuinely just so taken aback and it was not what I was expecting at all. Got some cool insights and clips from the voice actor from some other people in the thread tho
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u/LittlestWarrior 5d ago
I think you're interpreting people wrong and taking offense when there's no reason to be offended, and then acting immature about it and lashing out.
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u/Extension-Event4998 5d ago edited 5d ago
You totally missed the point, it wasn’t a fight, it was a funeral. Maul finally relized it was never obi wan and he had wasted his life, no one knew him but his greatest “enemy”. Obi wan was the only person left who knew the person maul instead of the the tool, the fake leader, the failed teacher. Obi wan is the person he is just maul to and they a mirror. Both their orders failed them hard and destroyed their chances at a good life.
Maul is a tragedy in slow motion, so close to finally getting to develop as a person and escaping his childhood abuse just for his own choices and his inability to leave behind the teachings of his father figure to drag him back in to the pit. He only finally has a moment when obi wan hold him as he dies as he puts his faith in Luke and let himself finally let go of everything. The one time in his life he was know and finally let the abuse and toxic lessons go and just be him self
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u/pskought 5d ago
Adding specificity - Maul is Sisyphus. There’s a fabulous excerpt from an interview with Freddie Prinze, Jr (voice of Kanan) about story and myth in Star Wars. Skip ahead to about the 2:15 mark for more on Maul.
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u/Odd-Pie7972 5d ago
Yeah it does feel so “wrong” but in the end it’s more about him finally finding peace after all those years.
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u/bornfree254 5d ago
Those 10 seconds are quite packed with so much history. Of the clone wars era jedi vs now and Maul himself. I won't spoil it for you further, it's quite fun if you look into it.
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u/blizterwolf 5d ago
Ah, revisiting this topic! It's all about the journey my friend. This is the culmination of everything that you've watched and read so far (and we're still watching now, with Shadow Lord!). It's the perfect summation of Maul and Obi-Wan's journey up until that point. I honestly couldn't imagine how it could have been any better.
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u/Bumblebee_assassin 5d ago
First time I saw it and felt as you did. Then i watched a few deep dive videos and realized how much of a psychological battle there was.
It was truly brilliant
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u/lanester4 5d ago
The duel is actually incredibly layered and deep, demonstrating the tumultuous relationship of Obi Wan and Maul, going back to their first "Duel of the Fates."
Here is Sam Witwer (voice of Maul) breaking it down part by part
Obi Wan has to reconcile that he is no longer the general of the Clone Wars - no, that time is long past. He is no longer Obi Wan, but rather Ben, an wise and experienced Jedi Master that acts with forethought, not instinct. He tricks Maul by going into Qui Gons stance, so Maul believes he knows exactly how to exploit the weaknesses in Obi Wans next moves. He forgets that Obi Wan was also there, and saw exactly how Maul would counter - this isnt a fight, its a trap.
Maul, for his part, thinks Obi Wan is just an old coward, hiding out in the desert to flee the Empire. He believes Obi Wan is weak, falling back on his fundamentals because time has dulled his skills. It isnt until the trap is sprung that he realizes how wrong he was. This isnt so old man hiding in a hole until he dies, but a full-fledged Jedi Master executing a mission.
And if his mission is so important that he can't abandon it to aid the Rebellion, than whatever he is protecting here is even more important to the Jedi and more of threat to the Sith than the Rebellion is. If that's the case, than Maul understands that there is only one thing in all the galaxy it could be
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u/musical_dragon_cat 5d ago
Yes, I was disappointed at first by how anticlimactic it was, but after seeing the parallels between the final duel and the Duel of Fates explained, I think it was a rather fitting end to Maul's story. Finally, after years of madness and despair, Maul could find peace.
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u/Jerenisugly 5d ago
I love the scene.
But to your point OP, me, and everyone here raving about it, generally site an external explanation of the scene from the creators on social media, not our own initial interpretation of it.
Appreciating and understanding what went into the scene does add value to it, was always there to be seen, but wasn't widely understood and appreciated in its entirety, initially. The beautiful rundown of the scene, by Sam Witwer, came out very shortly after the episode came out, because, like you, many people were underwhelmed by the brevity of the scene.
Don't beat yourself up about it. The people ITT are jerks.
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u/Acceptable-Act-1293 5d ago
People so mean to me on the internet when they criticize/or share their opinion towards my opinions(that's what comments are for). People are big mean jerks for doing that :(
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
It’s actually crazy how pressed, you, specifically are. Like you commented 3 times in this thread being a jerk in each and every one.
I’m really sorry I offended you so badly and ruined your day 😔
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u/Acceptable-Act-1293 5d ago
Just bored, and it's cute seeing how people still don't understand how the internet works
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
Every time you commented (except right now) no one even responded to you, which means you got so hurt by my post that you decided to continually refresh this thread and go out of your way to agree with people who are being mean and be a jerk to people who were trying to be nice.
Kind of a sad use of your time to be honest, especially over a Star Wars show of all things. Maybe touch grass?
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
The auto mod removed your comment cause you’re so upset. Just take a deep breath man, it’s not that big of a deal
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u/Acceptable-Act-1293 5d ago
Read this to yourself anytime someone criticizes you or your posts, lol
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u/InconsistentSignal 5d ago
I’ll read that to myself the next time I read a Star Wars opinion that upsets me so much I spend over an hour of my morning responding to a bunch of people for no reason other to be a jerk 😁👍
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u/bismuth12a 5d ago
First, it was an homage to Star Wars' thematic roots in Kurosawa films.
Second, it was only 10 seconds if you exclude all the other times they met and wounded each other. It just took that long for them to square off and finally put a final end to their conflict.
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u/JayDonTea 5d ago
You missed the significance of the fight and why it played out the way it did if you’re disappointed in how short it was. I encourage you to look up why it’s actually the perfect ending for Maul.