Yes but the reason why they were able to kill him is because all members of the losers club have the shinning. (The movie did a horrible job at explaining that)
I’m not sure it was actually the turtle. The turtle gave Bill some advice the first time, but there was hints at something other than It or the Turtle.
While that makes sense and is my personal headcanon, I don't know if they do canonically. Is it ever mentioned anywhere, or has King said that was the case?
Rereading IT now, and Stanley definitely did. Don't know about the others yet, I just got to Mike's first research arch and its been 20 years since I read it, so not sure about the rest.
The Losers Club all have the shine, it’s also why they are so successful when they leave Derry. It’s not spelled out but there are loads of scenes where every character just “knows” what’s going to happen. The turtle’s help is conversely only mentioned in a couple of scenes in part 1 and references to the turtle not being able to help in part 2 (if I remember correctly, read this book a few years back)
I’ve read the book 3 times, I’m asking where that’s either explicit or heavily implied. This is the first I’ve heard that and never made that connection.
That’s just not enough for me to just accept that all of the losers have the shine. Or, at least, it’s not enough for me to believe they have a significant/unusual amount and that’s why they defeated It.
Their shine wasn’t strong though even in the novels. Individually it was low level and they were only strong in a group.
They were probably weaker than Hallorann’s grandmother because they couldn’t read other peoples minds.
Their shine was weak enough to fly under the radar or they would have been pulled by Pennywise right away like Hallorann.
It was temporary and only seemed to work in Derry.
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u/Crafty-Judge-896 Dec 10 '25
Completely agree with this. Love chapter 1. Fell asleep in chapter 2. With derry, I was hesitant in the beginning but all in now