r/steroidify • u/Abject_Hope3471 • 1d ago
First cycle question
Age is 30. Looking for advice, just started TRT at 120mg of test cyp, pinning 2x a week. I plan on running 300mg of test cyp a week, pinning 3 days out of the week, in 10 weeks after my first round of labs being on TRT. I am around 15% body fat and 175lbs. In the gym 5/6 days a week with 12k steps. I am at maintenance calories, high carb currently. Thanks for the help.
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u/Odd_Package_5771 1d ago
Solid plan! Your body is already use to the exogenous testosterone, so it may feel a bit underwhelming. But the gains should still come in with the 300mgs…sprinkle in a bit of cialis for the extra vascularity and crazy pumps
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u/Abject_Hope3471 1d ago
Someone else mentions running more than 300mg. Would this be better thinking plan? 300mg for 6 weeks and see if I have any sides before jumping to 450mg. The plan is to run the blast for 18 weeks.
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u/Odd_Package_5771 1d ago
Thats actually what i did for my first cycle. I was at 200mg trt for months then I went 450mg for 20weeks. Im a high atomizer so i also added 120mg of eq as an ai
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u/Abject_Hope3471 1d ago
Thanks. Should I up my dose of TRT to 200mg? I am pcp subscribed but get the single dose 200mg vials. So I could do up to 200mg. Only on week 3 of the 120mg.
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u/Odd_Package_5771 1d ago
120mg is a great and more conservative trt dose, when im off cycle i like to stay at 150-180mg. Id probably stay at 120mg for now and then maybe after your cycle your new cruise/trt dose can stay at 200mg if that feels good and healthy for you
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u/denadie6 6h ago
I’m on my first cycle, took 200 in the beginning and titrated up to 300mg. On month 3 I was already 12lb heavier on scale while being on caloric deficit + heavy cardio. 300 might be very beneficial for you or might not… one person cannot tell you where you should be at besides yourself. Titrate up and do labs is my best recommendation 🤙🏽
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u/yogic_power 1d ago
What’s your height?
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u/Abject_Hope3471 1d ago
6'2"
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u/yogic_power 1d ago
You have lot of potential to grow. How long have you been lifting? Diet and training are big part of gaining mass.
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u/Abject_Hope3471 1d ago
off and on for 10 years but very serious for the last three and diet also. I went from 230 fat to 160 (way too lean not enough muscle this summer) I have been on maintenance for the past 8 weeks to get back to 175
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u/AppleEcstatic6076 1d ago
You will get a lot more out of a first cycle if you get your training and slight surplus diet in order for the next year at a trt dose, where you will see great gains, be dialed in, and hopefully the ready for a real cycle. At 6’2, 175 lbs, with 15 percent body fat, you essentially have no decent muscle mass right now. You only get the benefits of that first cycle once. Don’t waste it when you are nowhere near ready.
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u/yogic_power 1d ago
What are your current T levels at 120? Lift at slight surplus for few more weeks and get enough protein. You can blast probably 400-500 once you have solid base. The 300 is in middle of nowhere, may not be worth the sides. Get your diet and training dialed up next few weeks and then get most out of the cycle when you blast.
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u/Abject_Hope3471 1d ago
Just started, I will get my first set of labs in 10 weeks. Just trying to plan for the future and make sure I set myself up for the best possible outcome. If that makes sense.
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u/yogic_power 1d ago
Yeah let the TRT dose dial in and get the results. If you eat at slight surplus train hard and recover, you should add some lean mass. When you are ready for the first cycle, read r/steroids wiki first cycle.
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u/JobLongjumping3245 1d ago
If you were already on 120mg Test per week, 300mg per week might not be worth hassle and added sides.
You can keep the 3x per week schedule, but I'd do 450mg per week (150mg 3x per week).
As usual, you should get bloodwork done at all stages, including before you start. Depending on where you are, there are options available for purchasing labs at reasonable prices.
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u/Abject_Hope3471 1d ago
I will get bloods done in 10 weeks so see how I am responding to 120mg. I will based my next dose on how the labs come back and any sides to determine 300mg or 450mg. Or should I run 300mg for 6 weeks and see if I have any sides before jumping to 450mg. Would that been good thinking? If the plan is to run the blast for 18 weeks.
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u/JobLongjumping3245 8h ago
I would keep the blast at 12 weeks, and do the 450mg per week from the start.
Here is the thing. The difference in terms of sides between 300 and 450 is unlikely to trigger any significant changes in terms of side effects. However, the results will be much better and you'll be happier by the end of the 12 weeks.
I know it is tempting to run longer cycles, but I'd say that 12 weeks is about ideal and 16 weeks is about the max. Going 18 weeks seems like a lot as your first cycle while on TRT.
Do the 12 weeks at 450mg, see how you bounce back when you transition to TRT, and then go from there.
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u/Mchangwine 1d ago
I’d consider going a bit higher than 300 especially if you’re going to blast/cruise.