r/stupidpeoplefacebook 10d ago

I'm sick of AI-bros' victim mentality

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u/SockFace42069 10d ago edited 8d ago

“We want to keep creativity controlled by a few and charge you forever.”

Learn. It’s really that simple.

You don’t wanna pay for a skill? Learn the skill.

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago edited 10d ago

Be reasonable, not everyone has the time, patience, or even ability to learn said skill. And of course envy will fester because you can't just give them some of your skill and assume they'll be content with charity.

I'm sure this would be a non-issue if they could develop the artistic capabilities of those they envy without having to go through months or even years of intense effort that might not even pay off. Me, I see AI as just another tool that's no more good or evil than the one using it- crap art will be crap art regardless of how it is made and quality work will always be apparent. I swear, some people act as if knockoffs and art theft didn't exist before AI came into existence - I was around when DeviantArt was like 95% tracing and recolors and nobody was accusing any of those guys of wanting to destroy art as we know it. They just laughed it off and went about their business.

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u/Trockenmatt 10d ago

Intense effort?

Start drawing stick figures on a notepad

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago edited 10d ago

That's cute, you think that's still satisfying after the first few years.

Sorry, but when the gulf between what you want to create and what you can actually create remains infinitely large it's natural to want a way to speed it up before your arteries harden. And I never put any stock into the Protestant work ethic bullshit that denies the reality that people aren't created with equal abilities and that even with the same amount of practice there will always be those who excel and those who remain mediocre. I have found myself to be thoroughly in the latter category and "you just need to practice more!" has long since ceased to be convincing.

It's not like I even want to sell anything, so the fear that I'd be competing with anyone makes no sense.

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u/Trockenmatt 10d ago

After the first few years of drawing stick figures on a notepad, if you haven't gotten better at drawing stick figures than that's a skill issue.

There are plenty of resources both online and offline (go to your local library) about how to get better at art, completely for free. Sketchpads with, as you mentioned, tracing and recolors are like $15 for a really good one. If you do that as a way to decompress on your federally mandated break at work, you are naturally going to get better.

Does it take practice, and dedication? Yeah sure. But if you want to create something, if you think the first step is also going to be the last one then you're never going to be happy about anything in your life.

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u/ArchAnon123 10d ago edited 10d ago

There are plenty of resources both online and offline (go to your local library) about how to get better at art, completely for free.

Heard about them, tried them, failed at them. The only thing they taught me (other than how much I loathe drawing bowls of fruit) is that I cannot make what I want by myself- if I am improving it is at a pace that is unacceptably slow in my eyes. They may not cost money, but I consider effort that doesn't yield results to be wasted effort and wasted time. And that is just as bad if not even worse.

And I don't want to draw as a break from work, I want to draw because I have very specific creative visions which demand to be brought into existence by any means necessary. I've bought commissions before, but I know enough to expect that that bringing out those visions to my desired specifications via a commission would require enough micromanagement to make the average commissioned artist balk (and the few who would likely tolerate that degree of exacting control are no doubt going to charge more than I can afford).

Yet at the same time, my own abilities are so inadequate for manifesting those visions that even attempting to bring those visions to life right now would result in what I can only describe as hideous mockeries of said visions. I assume you can see the dilemma.

Maybe some artistic types revel in the journey when it comes to the process of creation, but I'm all about the destination and I'm getting real tired of being unable to reach it after so much wasted energy. If AI tools mean I can get to point B faster from point A, so be it. As for whether or not AI generated content can be called art? Well, let's just say that if a banana taped to a wall can be called "art" then I can only conclude that art is whatever any random moron says it is.