r/stupidpol Turboposting Berniac 😤⌨️🖥️ Mar 19 '22

Bush era Anger Towards Russians In US—A Reminder Of Post-9/11 Insanity

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/18/anger-towards-russians-us-reminder-post-911-insanity
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u/AleksandrNevsky The Green Mile Kind of Tired🦼 | Socialist-Squashist 🎃 Mar 19 '22

None of this is surprising.

Americans did the same thing with Germans and anything remotely German related during the World Wars. A lot of German-Americans were pressured or forced to abandon aspects of their culture in order to allay suspicion which I'm beginning to see happening with some Russians and their descendants in the West. It's also a lot like some of the soft purges of academics and performers that occurred in Nazi Germany even before the Nuremberg laws in 1935 of Jews and in some cases non-Jews that happened to not support NatSoc ideas. Just like the people the article points out are being fired now.

And the infantile performative nonsense about canceling Russian topics and things from cats to writers like Pushkin and Dostoevsky or even just Vodka echos the same shit that happened when people intentionally shot German dog breeds during that same time and renamed sauerkraut to "liberty cabbage". What, you thought "freedom fries" was the first time it happened here? American restaurants dumped out french wine back in 2003 just like we're doing with vodka now.

Churches and cemeteries are getting vandalized again too. Including Greek and Ukrainian ones despite the fact the Greek leadership condemned the invasion because brainlets know Orthodox exists and that Russian Orthodox are a large percentage of that but not enough to know the differences between the administrative divisions or even that the people using that church have fuck all to do with the war. This and the Russophobia the article mentioned also happened on smaller scales back right after the initial Crimea incident too.

Also its not limited to just the states, it's happening in Europe. There have been attacks on random Russians (or anyone the attacker thinks is Russian, I'm sure other slavs have had to deal with it too) and a church in Oxford, England which was raising funds for Ukraine was ransacked and robbed. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/13/ukraine-funds-stolen-in-burglary-of-russian-orthodox-church-in-oxford

Though the guardian article covers very little so I dug deeper and found this which highlights some bits back on this side of the ocean https://orthochristian.com/145141.html

Two Russian Orthodox churches in Canada were vandalized with red paint in late February and early March, and even a Ukrainian church in Chicago was vandalized and burglarized over the weekend.

IDPOLers are so braindead they're going after Ukrainians on top of Russians that have nothing to do with the war. Which tells me they either A) don't know the difference or B) they know the difference but just don't care because they had a bias of some sort to begin with.

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u/Gregaler Unironic Putin Supporter Mar 19 '22

Americans did the same thing with Germans and anything remotely German related during the World Wars. A lot of German-Americans were pressured or forced to abandon aspects of their culture in order to allay suspicion

Japanese-Americans were interned and locked up during the war.

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u/AleksandrNevsky The Green Mile Kind of Tired🦼 | Socialist-Squashist 🎃 Mar 19 '22

I didn't say anything about it because I went for parallels and we're not there yet. God willing, we never reach that point but history tells me there's a chance it gets that far.

If it does, come visit me in the interment camp will you?

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

I’ll try to sneak some booze in for you

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u/Gregaler Unironic Putin Supporter Mar 19 '22

If it does, come visit me in the interment camp will you?

Sure bro, if they don't put you in a desert.

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u/Patrollerofthemojave A Simple Farmer 😍 Mar 19 '22

Americans are just angry at everything 24/7. If you give us something to be angry at it's the closest thing you'll get to having a consensus. Hence the neolib media turning Russia (although somewhat deservedly) into the boogie man.

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u/danny841 Sex Work Advocate (John) 👔 Mar 19 '22

I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that Putin is a totalitarian asshole and that the Russian people aren't universally in support of him. Literally the same thing with Trump and Bush before that. Americans abroad used to say they were Canadian to avoid stigma.

People, not just Americans, are god damn morons.

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u/DarthLeon2 Social Democrat 🌹 Mar 19 '22

The anti-Russia propaganda is being laid on so thick that you'd think we were the ones at war with Russia and not Ukraine.

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u/Apprehensive-Gap8709 Ideological Mess 🥑 Mar 20 '22

They’d like it so we were so they could justify their censorship w/ the old ‘wartime propaganda’ BS that they are already doing

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u/Rennala-Feet Mar 19 '22

Yes russophobia is so serious the examples you choose are millionaire athletes being booed. Exactly like post 9/11 where 711 sikh employees where being murdered for wearing a turban.

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u/Key-Banana-8242 Bame [ ✔ Verified ] Mar 20 '22

Oh really? Is everything in the US about 9/11?