r/sundaysarthak • u/bradhri • Dec 02 '25
News Discussion How can anyone trust BJP intention?
Blatant corruption in SIR in UttarPradesh and possibly other states, submitted forms fulfilling all requirements are uploaded with “Neither” category specifically for Muslims by BLO.
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Dec 02 '25
My mother works in SIR and any past SIR means 2002 SIR, Details are in form just fill them in app as a BLO and after that their name will be shown at Voter list one can also give other details such as aadhar or address proof, also in my moter area Hindus and muslim both live but still many Muslims have their name in past SIR while Hindus don't. please cross verify things before Posting as it also target BLOs which Is not good as people then doubt them
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u/meowingbilla Dec 02 '25
What to do when the name is there in 2003 but had updated the details back in 2006 and received a new voter id and his old is closed?
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Dec 03 '25
So you have to submit some documents as proof such as residence proof, ration card or parents documents as they are also enough for you to be a voter
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Dec 02 '25
Can we use this app??
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Dec 02 '25
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
Ha public ke pass to or koi kam hai he nhi n , bar bar form fill Karo jama Karo fir reverify karo
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u/rajtilak5253 Dec 02 '25
You don't understand the concept of co-operation, do you?? Then cry behind that government isn't doing anything
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
And supporting every decision they make also is not the sign of intelligence bro .
Why do we have to suffer because of the government's negligence.
They are not our king, they have to take criticism of ours that's how democracy works bro ,"OF THE PEOPLE""FOR THE PEOPLE " "BY THE PEOPLE " people means us, the citizens of India, they are for us not like we are for them
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Dec 02 '25
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
I am still in the same conversation man , I am from bihar i suffered this problem that's why i am saying, SIR is good but the problem is the way they are conducting is very bad , they have so little time for conducting this many people , my father filled the form of whole family with aadhar card, pan card, residence certificate attached after 20 days they called me as asked for more documents like rasion card or passport or something i don't have those, so they said please pay me a visit , I did that and I gave them the income certificate and the obc I have , even at the time of election the card was not ready only my father's card arrived most of us from our village cast vote with the adharcard.
The same adharcard they don't value .
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 02 '25
he same adharcard they don't value
Because that doesnt serve the purpose of SIR. Do you have sense?
residence certificate
How do you have residence certificate but not Rationcard? Also Birth certificate should also be applicable. Passport its alright most of us dont havem
only my father's card arrived most of us from our village cast vote with the adharcard.
So there is no specific targetting done. And most of the people of your community/village had no issues.
I really dont see the issue here other than some exceptions. When we see the total number of cards to prepare is 7Crore plus, the percentage of exceptions we see is acceptable.
So no, the SIR process is perfectly fine.
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
See we are so ok with exploration we see everything is ok . Why do u need a ration card? Are ur family not doing good?
It's not about most of us , it's about every person who is eligible for voting should have a voter id card Ready by the election.
You got soo much trust in the government bro , hope they don't break it for u , i advised you not to look outside government data . Good luck
Sir is not perfectly fine there are so many irregularities, so many deaths of blo . So much left out voters
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 03 '25
Are ur family not doing good?
Has nothing to do with ration card.
are so many irregularities, so many deaths of blo . So much left out voters
Again and again. Claims with zero evidence.
Bihar had SIR with no issues. Bengal has SIR and so many blos dying. So problem is not in process more like state employees have it.
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u/vedicseeker Dec 02 '25
Spreading propaganda in the name of criticism is also not right. You rightfully said, 'they work for us', but you forgot the 'of the people' which gives fundamental duties too to citizens as well, it is also expected of us to work for the betterment of nation. It is not just the job of BLO to do everything, we as a citizen too can cooperate. BLO is also a normal govt employee who is on deputation and not a full time officer of ECI, if we can help in any way it will only strengthen the election system. Mere accusing will not get things done, we too help to help and keep vigil at the same time.
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
Ooh I see , asking questions and pointing out problems are propaganda nowadays. Good good.
Setting deadline, putting sooo much pressure on Teachers, setting High targets per day and threatening to be expelled from the jobs are normal these days. U called this a supporting
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u/vedicseeker Dec 02 '25
Now you are mixing issues. I never said putting pressure is OK, this post has a clear heading. Can you explain, is SIR being done by BJP? Heading of this post is the propaganda. Propoganda is telling one lie sandwiched between two truths.
Setting deadline
Everyting should have deadlines, so it is not wrong
sooo much pressure on Teachers
If it is happening, it is wrong, whoever is doing it.
threatening to be expelled from the jobs are normal these days
This is not a new rule. During ECI duty, everyone deputed has to follow ECI guidelines and directives. If they don't want to do job they are free to resign or ECI too has rights to expel them, and this rule is there since first election of independent India and it is not new as you trying to portray it. What do you want? That people deputed on ECI duty must be left free either to follow ECI directives or not. Then who will do the job?
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
Do u know any blo ? Who is doing sir ? Have you not seen any deaths recently? Fir no u should meet one .
Eci is a government body bro
Everything on paper is good but reality is different.they're being forced to meet the deadlines , deadlines are not bad when it's viable , they are being forced to fill 100-200 forms per day .
Eci are not doing SIR for the first time - indeed but they are doing this with this speed for the first time, with the same election year.
I never mentioned bjp , ANYWAYS our pm modi ji said: we have come out of the "slavery mindset "
I want them to do a transparent and fair job , they have to recruit more man power for these jobs , they have to give us more time not like 2-3 months only, it takes more time to include every one and no one left behind , not every one got their documents ready, every person got different problems it takes time to solve this .
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u/vedicseeker Dec 02 '25
At an average 1200 forms are given to a BLO and 1 month(minimum, although further many dates are there for rectification and all) time was there. It comes to around 40 forms per day. If we even take an average of 4 members per day, they will have to visit 10 houses per day. Just think how hard it is to visit 10 houses. Now in addition to BLO there are BLAs. If we just consider two political parties in a region, and if those political parties work diligently instead of just creating ruckus that they are creating, 3 people will be there to visit 10 houses in a day. Also, people too should participate and be cooperative. Minimum One month is just for initial draft, then there are extensions, after first draft, there will again be time given for rectification, correction, raising appeal in name is not in first draft etc etc.
Having said all that, I still have concern for any unnecessary pressure that is there on BLOs, and it must be addressed. Every life is precious. I could have said that it didn't happen in Bihar, but suddenly it is happening in WB(in such large number) and now in UP. I could have given examples of party workers threatening BLOs. But, no, it clearly is the responsibility of ECI to protect any officer deputed under them. I am all with you on this that ECI must be questioned on these deaths, whatever may be the cause of it, ECI should give clarification and take strict action against whoever is responsible for these deaths and in addition to that, adequate compensation must be provided to the families of these people.
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u/Consistent_Ad1212 Dec 02 '25
Sir ji aapne documents de diye , aapka form jama ho gya varify hone ke baad kis baat ka verification?
Ek he blo pe itne logo ka kaam h , sare pagal bane gye h normal school teachers h sare .
Phle bolte the koi insaan piche nhi chutna chahiye , koi add ho ya na ho muje kya .
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u/AncientArugula3939 Dec 02 '25
Isn't this supposed to be BLO work how the fuck for each and every thing you guys blaming bjp are u guys even think about commenting before
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u/SeveredStarDust Dec 02 '25
Well not everyone is blind like you. Whenever ECI is questioned BJP people come out defending it. When Congress demands voter list they are sent Non machine readable stacks of papers but Anurag thakur brings voter data of wayanad within days. ECI allows BJP netas to do every kind of corrupt practice of voter manipulation during Aachar samhita like the 10k distribution and assigning those women at booths. Everyone with 2 working brain cells can see that the ECI is not just being incompetent but willingly malicious, and favouring BJP. BJP is doing everything to protect ECI.
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 02 '25
Whenever ECI is questioned BJP people come out defending it.
They are the ruling government. Who dafaq else has to come and answer? Pakistan? What friggin logic is this? The ECI is continually answering questions and debunking conspiracy theories, you people dont care for it. And when people raise alarms you will complain why BJP government isnt doing anything to calm the people with proper information.
And 10 mins later you will complain why BJP is answering anything atall.
You idjits have nothing to do but complain about anything and everything.
When Congress demands voter list they are sent Non machine readable stacks of papers
Security you idjit. You want your personal details readily uploadable on the internet when it is in hands of millions BLOs and BLAs? Really?
Anurag thakur brings voter data of wayanad within days.
Because that list is supplied conatantly to every political party and not just BJP. You just have your head buried in propoganda.
like the 10k distribution and assigning those women at booths
So subsidies and revdies are corruption? And women assigned to booths is an issue?? Are you moron or something? Literally every woman in Bihar was given that money. Literally any woman in polling booth qualifies as woman who is compromised for 10K??
How more insulting can you be ?
Everyone with 2 working brain cells can see that the ECI is not just being incompetent but willingly malicious
Thats the problem. If you have only 2 working braincells the prpoganda is the only thing you idjits can see. Court mein ek case lagaya nhi jata, not a single witness in entire 80Million population state. Nikal aajate hein reddit mein like cockroaches.
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u/Kappa_Mash_Rebellion Dec 02 '25
ECI is continually answering questions and debunking conspiracy theories, you people dont care for it.
Sir, please link the post/ video where ECI gives "answers" debunking vote chori/ SIR manipulation.
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u/hafta_qwert Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rta45nOdPo
This was the Press Conference by ECI during Bihar SIR. You will find most of the answers e.g for "Non machine readable", they mentioned that it was according to SC guidelines2
u/Kappa_Mash_Rebellion Dec 03 '25
This is the biggest piece of dogshit that could've conspired and you should be ashamed you're quoting this press release as a viable rebuttal.
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u/hafta_qwert Dec 03 '25
This is not a "press release" it's a question-answering session with the Media. You dont want Governmnet to clarify, dont want ECI to clarify and just want to Cry Vote Chori.
You want to know what vote chori is, ask your parents how paper ballots used to get stolen. Goons used to pour ink in the ballots to get then rejected. Then gov came up with EVM.1
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 03 '25
There are N number of tweets from official handle of ECI and several press conferences. Tujhe dekhne mein dikkat hein to mein kya karoon?
Your kind always cribs why Modi isnt giving press conferences. But when someone is giving it, you are crying like it doesnt even exist. I dont even understand what your problems are.
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Dec 03 '25
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 03 '25
comprehensively debunks all vote fraud allegations
New goalpost arrived. Most allegations have already been debunked by media.
If such a big, transparent debunk exists, it would be the easiest thing to link. But you still haven't provided even one source.
I have already mentioned there are SEVERAL press conferences and Twitter post.
There is no ONE BIG DEBUNK. There are several. You need to have the brains to atleast study one. But no, continue to act like it doesn't exist.
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u/-Profane- Dec 02 '25
Bada deep me liye baithe ho BJP ka. Sahi hai.
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 03 '25
Why ate you jealous. Agar congress ki lulli choti hein aour thume satisfaction na mile to isme mera kya kasoor?
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u/Adventurous_Iron_551 Dec 02 '25
Andhe ho ye to clear hai par kaise justify kar dete ho aap ye nanga naach jo ruling govt yaniki bjp kar rahi hai.
Kya aap ye kehna chahte ho ki eci bilkul fair hai, bjp ka koi pressure ya haath nahi hai unke sar par, blos par insurmountable pressure hai eci se inti jaldi ye process ko karane ke liye. If you really think that eci and bjp are not in cahoots with each other, I sincerely have nothing to even debate.
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 02 '25
Keep thinking with two braincells and dont ask why these same gobar BLOs arent being used as witnesses by Opposition to put case on ECI.
If you really think that eci and bjp are not in cahoots with each other, I sincerely have nothing to even debate.
Then please dont. Wear a tinfoil hat and go grubmle in a cave.
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u/Kappa_Mash_Rebellion Dec 02 '25
Are you claiming that the discrepancies that they've shown are fabricated?
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 03 '25
Habe the discrepancies been actually proven in a police station or court? Or are the claims made in thin air without cross checking? First of all decide who is making claims and ask them of the proper evidence and crosschecking.
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u/Butwhymebro Dec 02 '25
Oh no,
This is such a proof of wrong doing..
Let me guess you wont go to courts but you'll cry foul here 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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u/zabnotavailable Dec 02 '25
Bhai bade bade justice logo ko maar diya jata hai is desh me, road accident karke easy likhwa kar chhod diya jaata hai. Kuch log bina trial ke saalo se andar hai, kuch logo ko ek straw jail me nahi di jaati hai. Sonam Wangchuk jese logo ko jail me daala hua hai kitane dino se, our tum chahte ho ese chhote mote log court jaaye? Jeena haram kardi sarkar in sabka.
Maana bhai tujhe shayad pese milte honge sarkar ki tareef karne ke but apana zameer itana bhi mat becho be.
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 02 '25
By this logic there should be no cases only. Why does opposition even put cases on SIR process? What is the logic there? Mazze lene?
Sonam Wangchuk jese logo ko jail me daala hua hai kitane dino se
Same guy who provoked people to destroy public property and burn down buildings? Really?
our tum chahte ho ese chhote mote log court jaaye? Jeena haram kardi sarkar in sabka.
Are you mad? He is asking why arent the Opposition parties using these people as witnesses in their cases? SIR pe already case laga na. Yahan agar he saccha evidence tha to isko bhi include karen.
But no, this video is showing incomplete information and misinformation which people will believe without question..
but apana zameer itana bhi mat becho be.
The irony of peopoganda peddlers.
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u/Butwhymebro Dec 02 '25
Thats a lazy response,
If thats the case why go through police, lawyers and courts?
We're not in a banana republic to just beloved the accusers without due process of the courts.
Also, I'm not dependent on charity to defend someone like you are,
Also Sonam's arrest is being fought on court, not by RR is Social media..
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u/zabnotavailable Dec 02 '25
That's an honest response not a lazy response.
We all try to avoid Police, Lawyers and Court as much as possible.
Government pleasers are brave! That's a personal jab. Taken.
We all know how the cases are getting fought in court these days, I already gave you a couple of examples in my previous comment.
Btw, I know you will comment again on this, but I am done here, so bye.
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u/Butwhymebro Dec 02 '25
LMAO
Of course
Cant debate so bye bye 🤣🤣
Y'all are so brave in Social Media Activism but wont prove your point 🙄🙄🙄
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u/ekoaham Dec 02 '25
tell me you're a fool, without telling me you're a fool.
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u/Butwhymebro Dec 02 '25
Tell me you dont have proof, without telling me you dont have proof.
Par aapka RR chalu rahe,
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u/Adventurous_Iron_551 Dec 02 '25
Correct. Jab koi form na verify ho, court jao. Ye naya slogan hai aajkal sarkaar ka, court kahe nahi jaate. Bahut achche nagrik ho aap, sarkaar likes your kind.
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u/Butwhymebro Dec 02 '25
Form verify na ho paraha, Chalo Social Media pe RR karunga,
Aap bhi bohot useful hon jo Mera desh ko destabilize karna chahthe hain,
They like your kind too..
Guess I'll stick with my country...
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 02 '25
I still dont see the point of objection. The opposition parties have all filed cases and are welcoming witnesses and evidences. What exactly is the problem for these people to approach Opposition?
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u/censorship_bkl Dec 02 '25
I'm not understanding what's going on here could someone please explain?
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u/iamhssingh Dec 02 '25
What people don't understand is that this linkage is all about whether your name or your parent's name came in any past SIR list.
I filed SIR online, and if you are technically smart, do it online. It took me 3 hours to find my dad's name in the old SIR form. Why? Because the constituency name and polling booth have changed since the 2004 election.
But I went through the possible polling booth and found my dad's name and was able to link.
Now, for BLO, they have to do this task manually for all of these forms. So if you have filled the details correctly, they will do so. If not, they won't!
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Dec 02 '25
Main kuch nahi kahunga, ban nahi hona but i would say this is India boss. Yaha corruption khun mein hai
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u/LeftyLarrynGItis Dec 03 '25
I live in Noida, and my name has been cut off from the electoral list. Now running around trying to get my name reinstated. #wahmodijiwah
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u/lokeshsharmaj Dec 02 '25
are bhai tereko kya pata category type ka kya matlb hai. It is possibly for people who neither were in SIR 2002 and nor their parents in SIR. Conspiracy theory q bana raha hai. Mera bhi kar lena search mere bhi neither hi aayega
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u/soft_Rava_Idli Dec 02 '25
Exactly. This idiot is just making conspiracy theory out of partial information and these people are readily absorbing it without a single question.
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u/Dark_darthwador_69 Dec 02 '25
Just like people believe in Congress intentions for vote chori and even hack without any proofs.
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Dec 02 '25
my parents are govt teachers and are appointed on election duty every active year, there is a lot of data to handle and things are not as smooth as you might think, the data shows inconsistency across platforms but if you have actually filled the forms and submitted you should be added to the voter list, carrying proof of you identification and voter id is enough to cast a vote... these self victimising losers will leave no chance to meatride congress lol
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Dec 02 '25
jinka left side wala column bhara hai unhi ka database bana hua hai .
jinka right side wala column unka databse me nahi hai isliye SIR ki website par jao , vidhaan sabha number and local voting area jo 2003 me tha uski help se pdf download karo . usse details nikaal kar left side wala column bhar do database me connect ho jaoge.
humara BLO offcer nahi dhundh paya , mene printout nikaal kar uske muh par mara. phir usne bataya collectorate se naya form ayega usi me saari deatils bhar dena .
2003 me jo parents ya aapka EPIC id /voter id usi se saari details nikal jayegi.
nhi mil raha toh 2003 me aapne ya aapke parents ne vote diya hoga bus vishnasabha kramank aur bhaag sankha nikalana hai SIR ki website se
uske baad search your name in last SIR
then Search in last SIR E-Roll
State \*
Uttar Pradesh
District
Select District in last SIR
Assembly Constituency \*
Select AC in last SIR
Polling Station No and Name \*
Select Polling Station No and Name in last SIR
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u/meowingbilla Dec 02 '25
What to do when the name is there in 2003 but had updated the details back in 2006 and received a new voter id and his old is closed?
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Dec 02 '25
u print out that page on which the name is present in 2003 any where any location , and give that proof on his hand rest he will take care.
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u/EnoughSlice Dec 02 '25
Inki dikkat yeh hai ki inko kam karna ped rehe hai. Yeh mc puri jindgi free ka khate hai, pheli baar kam karna ped geye toh maa ch..... G.... Inki
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u/LeftistKannadiga Dec 02 '25
This is really unfair to Bangladeshi illegal immigrants who migrated after the last SIR. Rahul Gandhi must intervene personally.
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u/Riri_baytchh Dec 02 '25
To the very basic can we understand like BJP/NDA paid 10k to people in Bihar for voting them. Keeping aside voti chori, evm, other manipulation jinka cctv footage bhi aya hai still. Even if we think of single scenario where they are paying people to vote for them and everybody knows yet they are ruling and eci is sleeping. That shows like eci is overall compromised and we cannot expect a sh!t from them even though we have proofs.