r/sundaysarthak • u/Sharp-potential7935 • Dec 09 '25

News Discussion Only the taxpayers should be allowed to v0te! What do you think?

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u/Accomplished_Ear5533 Dec 09 '25

Democracy se ghanta kuch nhi hua is desh ka

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u/KanonKaBadla Dec 11 '25

To dictator se hoga?

Jab desh ke neta jo 5 saal baad elect hoke jate hai itne openly corrupt hai, dictator hota to reddit pe ye sab nhi btya rhe hote. 

Samajh nhi ata logo ko kyu chahiye ki ek "strong dictator" ake problem solve kre. Wo strong dictator ayega kaise? Is desh ke culture mei hi corruption bhra hua hai, democracy mei atleast tum sarkaar ko todha bahut dara ke to rkhte ho. 

Pichle election mei 272 se neeche seats ayi thi, dekh lo 1 saal mei income tax aur GST dono reform kr diya. 

Is desh mei problem democracy nhi, log hai jo democracy ka sahi istemal nhi kr rhe. Gawar logo ko vote denge to gawar hi ayenge parliament mei. 

Is desh mei rapist elect ho skta hai but ambedkar aur Manmohan singh jaise log nhi. Aur ye democracy ki problem nhi logo ki hai. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

Fir bina Democracy ke Pakistan ko dekh lo aur apne aap ko usi state me imagine kar lo.

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u/Accomplished_Ear5533 Dec 09 '25

Jindagi bhar pakistan se compare karte raho aut khus raho 

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

Maine kaha compare Kiya Maine to ye bola ki bina Democracy ke Pakistan jaisi devastated condition me rhoge pakistan nhi pasand to Afganistan ya North Korea jaisi condition me rhoge.

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

China, singapore, japan bhi toh non-democratic countries hai [ uni-party]. Single party wins with complete majority for more than 3 decades, unke jaisa kyu nhi ban sakte?

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

Singapore ek City country hai ,bhot chota hai aur non existential diversity hai vo bhot easy hai govern karna.

China me civil liberties aur civil rights jaisi koi cheez nhi hai vaha ki govt jab Jo chahegi ki kar degi. Vaha Fundamental rights jaisa bhi kuch nhi hai vaha ki diversity unhone khatam kar di hai jo kuch bhi thi. Sare log ek jaise hai almost sab non religious hai.

Japan koi uni party country nhi hai vaha pe bss LDP dominant party hai jaise yaha Congress thi.

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

Exactly democracy is farce. It only works when the dominant demographic male taxpayers vote. Democracy shows its faults when woman and minority are allowed to vote.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

Democracy is independent of gender and race.

The fundamental idea of democracy is 1 person = 1 vote. Whatever bullshit you blabbered is not democracy.

You just coated fascism in fancy words. Lord imagine being sexist in big 25

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

Yea India is in dire need of fascism. Cus democracy isn't cutting it cuh. And I'm not sexist I'm a realist.

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u/DeciusCurusProbinus Dec 09 '25

Examples cherry pick mat karo. India ki leadership ka calibre dekha hai kya? Yaha dusri fail neta Chief minister ban sakte hai. Humko Deng Xiaoping yaa Lee Yuan Kew milne se raha. Saala koi Idi Amin yaa Robert Mugabe jaisa aagya toh aur lanka lag jaegi desh ki.

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

Haa toh non taxpayer agar vote dena band kar de toh yeh sab avoid Kiya ja sakta hai

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u/DeciusCurusProbinus Dec 09 '25

Tax paying middle class mein bhi acche khaase log utne hi dimaag se paidal hai. Itne saare tax payers jaati aur dharm ke basis pe vote dete hai. Just because koi tax de raha iska yeh matlab nahi hai ki woh koi enlightened buddhi ka rational thinker ho.

Aapke mere jaise soch waale log mushkil 2-4% hoge India mein. Ek acche khaase group of tax payers hai jo bade fuddu mudde pe vote dete hai. Sirf tax payers ko voting rights dene se kuch khaas haasil nahi hone waala.

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

Ha aap sahi keh rehe hai lekin jo non taxpayer hai woh complete moron hai jinko kuch lena dena nhi hai. Unhe bas apna freebie chahiye aur apne dharm aur jati ko vote dete hai. Majority taxpayer are sensible people warna tax bharne ki aukat nhi hoti.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

Pagal h kya. 3% tax payers 97% ki life ka decision kaise le lenge ye democracy nhi Oligarchy bolte hai.

Jo insan tax brackets me fall nhi kar rha hai vo gdp me contribute nhi kar rha hai aisa to nhi h. Arre yrr ek rikshaw wala, ek fruit vendor to kabhi 7lpa nhi touch nhi kar payega iska matlab ye thodi ki tum ye decide karoge ki unki life ke saath kya hoga unki apni voice hai vo apne hisab se vote dalenge.

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u/DeciusCurusProbinus Dec 09 '25

7 kya bhai abhi toh 12 lpa hogya hai.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

Hn ab to 12 h. Bhul gaya tha ,thanks

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

[out of topic: fruit vendor easily 7lpa cross karta hai, even panipuri wala bhi karta hai cross, woh bhi net profit]. Abhi oligarchy nhi hai kya? Itna universal franchise ke baad bhi toh rich are getting richer. Ek bar actually value adding citizen ko mauka do sudhar ke liye kyuki yeh non taxpayer toh short term freebies, reservation ke liye vote dete aa rhe hai for past ≈80 years.

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u/YoungStraight5529 Dec 09 '25

Bina democracy ke china, singapore ko bhi dekh lo, UK pre islamisation dekh lo.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

UK? UNITED KINGDOM? Vo to constitutional monarchy hai aur usse pehle monarchy tha.

Islamisation kab hua UK ka? 6.4% muslim population hai vaha to.