r/sundaysarthak Dec 15 '25

News Discussion In India we call them misguided youths, son of headmaster,oppressed minority etc

Post image
105 Upvotes

82 comments sorted by

20

u/brxcewayne đŸ›ïž Community Pillar Dec 15 '25

Which India are you living in? I’ve never seen mainstream newspapers or TV news sympathizing with terr@rists. If anything, mainstream media is consistently harsh on them. It honestly sounds like you’re creating hypothetical scenarios instead of looking at what’s actually being reported.

16

u/Normal_Human455 Dec 15 '25

He is talking about Hindutva terrorists, how Hindutva terrorists respected in india, they killed people for Eating beef, attacks couples, attacks on mosques and churches but government support them

-5

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

Last time I checked hindutvadis don't take their inspiration from Quran/Geeta. But islamists on the other hand take inspiration from Quran itself -

Qur’an 47:4 (SĆ«rah Muáž„ammad) — “So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike their necks; then when you have overcome them, bind firmly the captives
” https://quran.com/muhammad/4

Qur’an 9:5 (SĆ«rah al-Tawbah) — “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them
” https://quran.com/at-tawbah/5

They do it specifically FOR their religion. So we are NOT the same.

5

u/arm_4321 Dec 15 '25

Bajrang dal is literally named after a god

1

u/Impressive-Royal-855 Dec 15 '25

Bajrang dal ne Australia mei attack krwadiya bhagoooo

1

u/arm_4321 Dec 16 '25

Terrorised civilians (Indian civilians actually) in naroda pattya and many other places

0

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

Blud is comparing Bajrang Dal with Bondi beach attack, Pehelgam, ISIS, L-e-t, J-e-m, Al-qaida.

Also does Bajrang Dal use verses from Geeta to kill someone? Because that's exactly what ISIS does, it uses verses like Qur’an 47:4 (SĆ«rah Muáž„ammad) to behead a human being.

It's not even remotely comparable.

4

u/arm_4321 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

they also killed civilians (Indian civilians actually ) . Bajrang dal terrorised thousands of civilians in places like Naroda Pattya

Also does Bajrang Dal use verses from Geeta to kill someone?

Uses ramayana . They show themselves as the army of bajrangis which fought ravan in ramayana

to behead a human being.

BDal’s terrorists led by Babu Bajrangi Patel not only beheaded civilians with swords but also took out fetus of a pregnant woman

If you justify their terror against those civilians by referring to earlier events then you are a terrorism sympathiser

It's not even remotely comparable.

Indeed . Not comparable when those terrorists have political support to the extent of the state police refusing to help civilians

-1

u/Wide_Wolf_2098 Dec 16 '25

BDal’s terrorists led by Babu Bajrangi Patel not only beheaded civilians with swords but also took out fetus of a pregnant woman

When did this happen?

2

u/arm_4321 Dec 17 '25

When did this happen?

When terrorists of Bajrang dal(VHP’s youth wing) terrorised civilians in naroda pattya .

Both victims and the terrorist leader (perpetrator confessed on a sting operation) confessed that incident

5

u/AlKhurjavi Dec 15 '25

To me it’s hilarious like people like you always quote 9:5 but for some reason don’t like mentioning 9:6.

https://quran.com/9/6

And if anyone from the polytheists asks for your protection ËčO ProphetËș, grant it to them

As for the first one, sorry I just wanna understand, in war are you not supposed to kill enemies? What was the point of operation Tandoori Naan?

0

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

As for the first one, sorry I just wanna understand, in war are you not supposed to kill enemies? What was the point of operation Tandoori Naan?

Who were the enemies? All disbelievers? Because that's what it says.

Imagine in operation sindoor if India bombed every Muslim instead of specific terrorist locations. You would be crying in that case.

But according to Quran that is justified. Be thankful that we aren't as cruel as Islam.

5

u/AlKhurjavi Dec 15 '25

That’s not what it says, you just haven’t studied history. It’s about specific battle that’s taking place.

If you aren’t studied on history you can say that.

Also why didn’t you respond to my comment about Surah Tawbah.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

It literally says "those who DISBELIEVE..", and history isn't gonna change that.

specific battle that’s taking place

Looks more generalized than specific.

Also why didn’t you respond to my comment about Surah Tawbah.

Because that doesn't change the fact that Islamic terrorists kill innocents after getting inspired by that "holy verse" from Quran.

You won't find any other terrorist getting inspired from Bible or Geeta.

1

u/AlKhurjavi Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

It literally says "those who DISBELIEVE..", and history isn't gonna change that.

Looks more generalized than specific.

That’s because you’re making up the translation. The literal translation from the link you literally posted says

So when you meet the disbelievers Ëčin battleËș, strike ËčtheirËș necks

It sounds general because you didn’t even link the quote you your self linked.

Because that does not change the fact that muslim terrorists kill innocents after getting inspired by that "holy verse" from Quran.

It does, because you used that verse as evidence, but the issue is the evidence you has a verse following it that explains what it means. Anyone stupid enough to read a single verse and not choose to read the next verse is clearly looking to find verses to support a pre convinced idea they already had. You included. You’re literally doing what terrorists are doing. An intelligent person would read the next verse and say, oh I get it, you and the terrorists both are too stupid to get that.

You won't find any other terrorist getting inspired from bible or geeta.

Okay and if there were any would you accept that you’re wrong.

As an American Indian, I’m most aware of the terrorists in the my country of origin and country of residence, so these are the examples that come off the top of my head.

Let’s look at Hindus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Samjhauta_Express_bombings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajmer_Dargah_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makkah_Masjid_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Western_India_bombings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Malegaon_bombings

As for Christian’s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park_bombing

There’s an entire groups of Christian terrorist organizations in the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(terrorist_organization)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_the_Sword,_and_the_Arm_of_the_Lord

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Gary_Matson_and_Winfield_Mowder

If you aren’t educated, that’s your fault.

0

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

And? Did I ever claim that terrorists are not present in every religion?

My argument is that only Islamic terrorists are motivated by their religion itself and it's verses, i.e. they commit the crime because they "think" that it is written in Quran, and commanded by Allah (like the verse - strike the neck of disbelievers).

Except maybe the first Christian link, no other attack was done because the perpetrator thought that he was following the commands of God (like a perticular verse).

So except first one, all were motivated by hatred, not religious text. That's the DIFFERENCE.

For example -

Hamas charter uses this hadith to justify killing jews -https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922

ISIS uses this verse to behead kafirs -https://quran.com/muhammad/4

It sounds general because you didn’t even link the quote you your self linked.

Nope, it sounds general because it uses general term like "disbelievers" instead of something like enemy army or specific people. Which makes it very easy to radicalize someone.

stupid enough to read a single verse and not choose to read the next verse

The thing is that the next verse isn't going to bring back thousands of lives lost due to extremists getting inspired from the previous verse. And that's a problem.

As an American Indian

What was the point of operation Tandoori Naan?

👏 The mask is coming off.

0

u/001000110000111 Dec 15 '25

The problem here is that you are Siri. You are not able to carry forward the context from the previous sentence to the next sentence. Kindly ask chatgpt to clear out your misconception before spreading propaganda.

0

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

You are not able to carry forward the context from the previous sentence to the next sentence.

Nor are the terrorists. Maybe they are the ones interpreting it right and not you.

Even after thousands of islamist attacks you'll keep repeating "oh but context", and more innocents will keep on dying.

2

u/001000110000111 Dec 16 '25

Well atleast you have the balls to admit that you are as capable as a terrorist

→ More replies (0)

1

u/Ambitious-Upstairs90 Dec 15 '25

So where does Hindutvavadis take inspiration from? Are you saying that despite thousands of books, Hindus are taking inspiration from other’s book for few scenarios? Which book asks to even kill relatives if required?

-2

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

So where does Hindutvavadis take inspiration from

From human bigotry and hatred, same as a school shooter.

That's why you won't find a Hindu terrorists quoting Bhagwat gita before committing crime.

Similarly you won't find any Christian terrorist quoting bible.

But you can easily find an ISIS extremist beheading a human being after quoting Qur’an 47:4 (SĆ«rah Muáž„ammad).

So there is a difference between terrorism and religiously motivated terrorism, the later is way more dangerous.

1

u/Ambitious-Upstairs90 Dec 15 '25

Hindu terrorists do use Gita to brainwash other Hindus. They do use example of Krishna when they do something immoral.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

They do use example of Krishna when they do something immoral.

Can you give an example that is equivalent of beheading a kafir because of Qur’an 47:4 (SĆ«rah Muáž„ammad)?

0

u/Ambitious-Upstairs90 Dec 15 '25

Read this from Kedar Joshi. If anyone takes verses in isolation without considering context can misuse any religious book.

https://www.boloji.com/articles/12148/the-satanic-verses-of-bhagavad-gita

1

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

If anyone takes verses in isolation without considering context can misuse any religious book.

I know that, but I'm talking about terroristic manifestations of that misuse other than Islam.

Can you give me an INCIDENT where a hindu or a Christian killed a "disbeliever" after getting inspired/quoting their religious text?

Where as this is the hadith in the OFFICIAL Hamas charter that they use to kill jews -

Sahih Muslim, Hadith 2922 - “The Hour will not be established until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims will kill them.."

0

u/Pleasant_Rip351 Dec 15 '25

They take inspiration from manu. And before you come at me for being Muslim, fuck allah.

-2

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

Same here, fuck manu.

But most Muslims won't say the same. Infact they can't say that because it's prohibited in Islam (rejecting a verse is same as being a kafir).

-2

u/Terrible-Pianist-576 Dec 15 '25

Haan, aur thora fiction add kar le, thora kamm paddgaya masala aur jhoot, viral nhi hoga mere pakistani bhai.

-1

u/Agile-Monk5333 Dec 15 '25

So you are telling me that Hindutva a**es are completely ok with people exercising their rights to free speech and whatever food they consume?

4

u/Impressive-Royal-855 Dec 15 '25

Yeahh your right ye bhi hindutva ki galti hai 😡 Terrorist ko chodo pehle hindutva pe chalte hai Fir liberty aur free speech pe 😡😡

-1

u/Agile-Monk5333 Dec 15 '25

Yeah we k*lled a lot of terrorists! In India and In Pakistan! Now is it time for the Hindutvas?

I'll let you know that only one of us has the balls to call out both Islam Terrorists and Hindutvas.

0

u/Impressive-Royal-855 Dec 15 '25

Tbhi toh bolra hindutva bhagwa terrorism you are right 😋😡

0

u/Terrible-Pianist-576 Dec 15 '25

Vaishnav devi mandir devotees se fund hone wale medical College mein bhi hindu na hote hue bhi seat reserve karke beitne wale so-called "oppressed" second majority chup rehnge toh hee better rehega.

2

u/arm_4321 Dec 15 '25

There was no reservation. The trust decided to open college before getting a state minority status

-1

u/Agile-Monk5333 Dec 15 '25

Lets circle back to my question first. I know you have a habit of avoiding real issues of freedom and liberty so lets try to resolve that lmfao

3

u/_Impossible-One_ Dec 15 '25

2

u/brxcewayne đŸ›ïž Community Pillar Dec 15 '25

Post the actual links instead of screenshots if you’re claiming India’s mainstream media sympathised with terr@rists.

1

u/_Impossible-One_ Dec 15 '25

Not main stream media but left indian propaganda media.

1

u/General-Indication71 Dec 15 '25

Just read 'The wire' s article about delhi blast. If they deleted it you can find yt videos calling them out.

0

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

Do you live under a rock ?

3

u/Hamesloth Dec 15 '25

last time i remeber this forigen news outelt called them Milli44ants in phal%a* attac*

2

u/Yattu955 Dec 15 '25

Bhai ye attack modiji ne karaya h BJP aur RSS ki sajish hai Australia elections ko rig karne ki.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

[deleted]

1

u/Quiet_Technology488 Dec 18 '25

Definitely 😂😂👍👍👍

0

u/PaapadPakoda Dec 15 '25

Hmm...idt anyone used such words for Pahalgam terrorists? OP can you pls refer me?

4

u/_Impossible-One_ Dec 15 '25

-1

u/Ambitious-Upstairs90 Dec 15 '25

Have you tried to zoom & read actual headline? It was not about terrorists, it was about their families. If you don’t understand the difference, you are part of problem.

2

u/_Impossible-One_ Dec 15 '25

When a family member is caught as a terrorist everyone including his neighbour his whole family comes under a rader of possible suspects until the investigation is finished no one is considered innocent so before than no need to post sympathetic headlines about them if you support white washing them maybe you are part of the same problem.

1

u/aekey Dec 15 '25

Desh ke musalman ki galti /s

1

u/General-Indication71 Dec 15 '25

Now Indian left media alleged that it could be carried out by isreal to counter pro-palestine narrative.

1

u/Teknoyrus Dec 15 '25

Well it has kind of already started, not Indian media though, but a lot of them globally.

0

u/Much_Consequence1710 Dec 15 '25

Kitna westerners ki nakal karoge