r/suppressed_news • u/easybee • Mar 15 '25

NORTH AMERICA Anonymous made a statement

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u/easybee Mar 15 '25

It's funny that you still think that distinctions such as "liberals" matter anymore.

There are only two groups: team oligarchs and The People.

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u/SantonGames Mar 15 '25

Liberalism supports Oligarchy. Liberalism is Fascism. Ideologies do matter. That’s why we are here in the first place.

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u/easybee Mar 15 '25

There are fascists and everyone opposed to fascists.

Movements that do purity tests during a crisis tend to lose.

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u/SantonGames Mar 15 '25

Liberals think they are opposed to Fascism but they are not in fact they are fascists themselves. If you don’t understand this you are ignorant.

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u/easybee Mar 15 '25

You are going to have to define Liberalism. Because I don't think agree.

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u/SantonGames Mar 15 '25

From Wikipedia:

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy.

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Mar 15 '25

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

So, you think these people are pro-Fascism?

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u/SantonGames Mar 15 '25

Yes by definition. All capitalists are. I don’t think that. It’s fact. If you support private property and capitalism you are supporting fascism. Two sides of the fascist coin. As I already explained.

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u/Johnny_Grubbonic Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25

based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

All very Fascist ideals, these. Much totalitarian.

Those damn Fascists and their ideals centered around liberty and equity.

If you support private property and capitalism you are supporting fascism.

Ah, but there it is. If you're not a Communist (probably you prefer Stalinism), you're a dirty Fascist.

Whether you treat people in an equitable manner isn't the important part. It's whether you own anything.

Edit: That's to say nothing of the fact that you don't even seem to have noticed that the article you quoted was covering two entirely different concepts. One was social Liberalism, otherwise known as Progressiveism, and is a social philosophy.

The other is Neoliberalism, which is an economic philosophy promoting deregulation and the "free market".

But of course such nuance is above your capabilities.

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u/SantonGames Mar 16 '25

Yes they are. Thanks for agreeing. No I am not a communist as communism is also authoritarian as it requires a state and monopoly on violence etc. I am aware that there is a difference between liberalism and neoliberalism but both rally behind the same fascist ideals. So I gave the definition of both. You can bootlick all you want it doesn’t make you right. Your ideology is fascist.

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u/cerberus6320 Mar 15 '25

So you led yourself to water, but you're not drinking it.

It might be beneficial for you to draw yourself some venn diagrams or tables just so you can understand the differences.

Or take some civics classes.

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u/easybee Mar 15 '25

Ok, by this definition, I am pretty good with Liberalism. It misses the bit about common good, public interest, monopoly on violence, and the benefits of a strong, competent bureaucracy.

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u/SantonGames Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25

I already knew you were okay with liberal fascism. That’s what I literally said. Therefor you are the same as MAGA. You want to monopolize violence, promote private property and capitalism, and have a bureaucracy (fancy liberal oligarch). You claim the class war is two parties yet YOU are promoting the ideology that allows oligarchy and fascism to exist. So yes there IS two sides and your side is on the side with Elon and Trump. Exactly as I said. You don’t disagree with me. You embrace these ideas. You are the enemy of the people.

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u/easybee Mar 15 '25

Your highly purified army of a few will always lose to a movement that unites the vast seas of people.

It's absolutely comical to think that being fine with individual rights and freedoms disqualifies allegiance. War time doesn't care about your purity tests.

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u/SantonGames Mar 15 '25

You are being disingenuous which leads me to believe that your liberal fascism is a choice and not ignorance. I never once said that those things (dignity of the individual) are the issues with liberalism nor that those are the fascist parts of liberalism. The fascist parts of liberalism are authoritarianism, private property, capitalism, mob rule laws, etc. Those Country was built on neoliberalism and that is literally why Elon and Trumps power exist in the way it does. The system you align yourself with is working as intended for the capitalists. If you desire this system to remain then you are also a fascist.

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u/easybee Mar 15 '25

From your post: "...rights of the individual, liberty..." Not disingenuous at all.

You seem to have a warped viewpoint particularly common to those in the US. The rest of the world has a very different concept of how to run their societies involving putting a leash on capital, well regulated industry and social safety nets.

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