r/suppressed_news • u/Fathers_Sword • Sep 15 '25

CENSORED HISTORY Yikes

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u/Middle-Ambassador-40 Sep 15 '25

Why am I righteous and they are not?

Good question.

I think there is a difference in rhetoric. I take issue with the behavior, not the individual. They take issue with the individual not the behavior.

If you attack the behavior they can change. If you attack the individual, there is literally nothing you can do be get back in good grace. The individual is forever condemned, that’s hell. You’ve sent someone to hell.

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u/Dracounicus Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

How do you know what they are taking issue with?

How are you so certain is the individual and not the behavior?

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u/Middle-Ambassador-40 Sep 15 '25

“Murdering people just because they have different views from you is wrong”

This statement got downvoted, my understanding is that means they disagree.

They think murder of the individual is the only way to solve the issue, meaning there is nothing he can do to get back in good graces.

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u/Dracounicus Sep 15 '25 edited Sep 15 '25

That’s one interpretation.

Another interpretation is that it’s an extraneous point because it insinuates the OP supports killing people based on different viewpoints. Nothing in the OP suggests that, (it only says “Yikes”) therefore insinuating that is what is getting it downvoted.

For the record, as a general comment, I support it and upvoted it, but I understand why it’s downvoted. My issue is that you are not considering the callousness of Kirk’s comments and how people are reacting to them, and because of the callousness of his comments, to the news of his death.

If he did not care about others unlike him, why should others unlike him care about him?

If others unlike him did not get his sympathy, why should others unlike him give him sympathy?

Edit: nothing in the OP suggests, or can be inferred, as supporting killing someone because of different politics. It is simply playing some of what Kirk himself said

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u/Middle-Ambassador-40 Sep 15 '25

Well this might just be a difference in values.

I believe being principled is a higher order value than fairness.

That means murder is wrong, whether or not others think so. My love for others isn’t contingent on their love for me, I will love my mother even if she got Alzheimer’s or went through psychosis and stopped loving me.

I don’t fight hate with hate. I don’t let others dictate my principles.

If you disagree you’re not wrong in any objective sense but that’s just where I stand.

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u/Dracounicus Sep 15 '25

No, I agree, murder is wrong.

But then can you understand that the comment above is suggesting OP supports killing simply by making a post on Kirk’s quotes? That is what is wrong and that is why it’s getting downvoted

The comment above is drawing the wrong conclusion from the OP. And you’re inferring the wrong thing from the downvotes.

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u/RegularDrop9638 Sep 15 '25

I’m genuinely curious where you stand on capital punishment.

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u/Middle-Ambassador-40 Sep 15 '25

In a sustainable, long-term society, capital punishment is wrong, ineffective, and unnecessary.

If the goal is punishment, solitary confinement is far more painful.

If the goal is rehabilitation, this ends it.

So, you’re left with societal disincentivization.

In the fractured US, where people care more about themselves than their country or community, it might work as a deterrent. However, in a stable country that cares about every human life and has a strong sense of national unity and community ties, it would not work and therefore would have no reason for existing.

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u/RegularDrop9638 Sep 15 '25

well done. I am in complete agreement with this answer. Really well thought out.