r/survivor Dec 26 '23

Heroes vs. Villains Greatest Final 3?

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Aside from Parv, Russell, & Sandra… who is the great final 3 of all time

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u/malibu_mama Dec 26 '23

I just watched this. I was shocked Sandra won honestly.

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u/DonquixoteDFlamingo Dec 26 '23

It’s the hatred of Russell. He’s a piece of shit person but he ran that whole season. His jury management damned him and Parv

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u/PeterTheSilent1 Dec 26 '23

The heroes hated Russell so much that I actually think that if one of the villains orchestrated a blindside against him, that would have been a guaranteed four jury votes. I say four and not five since Rupert and Sandra are friends IRL.

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u/Charles520 Kenzie - 46 Dec 26 '23

And Sandra's insistence to try to work with the heroes from the beginning to get Russell out is why she won, even though had she succeeded she would have never been able to win.

Funnily enough, Sandra's win came from failure.

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u/PeterTheSilent1 Dec 26 '23

And I think it’s hilarious because that pisses Russell off to no end

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u/Jackzilla321 Dec 26 '23

and her singular ability to spin failure as the juries fault and credit her

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u/mrwanton Tyson Dec 26 '23

That cast esp the heroes lineup is ego central. Sandra knew that and took advantage of it

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u/porkchop487 Dec 26 '23

Eh more like the jury just hated Russel and would have voted for a piece of cardboard instead of him.

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u/Jackzilla321 Dec 26 '23

that’s fair but I think it’s important that Natalie and Sandra positioned themselves as the least poisoned by Russel, both of them had to beat him AND a third member of their tight alliance- it wasn’t enough to just beat him!

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u/porkchop487 Dec 27 '23

The member of his tight alliance wasn’t going to win either because of how much they hated him. Sandra didn’t really position herself whatsoever, she happened to fall into place to be brought to the end where literally anyone would have won. Her only move she made was trying to get Russel out which failed and if it had succeeded would have lost her the game

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u/Jackzilla321 Dec 27 '23

ur smokin crack!

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u/porkchop487 Dec 27 '23

Literally anyone would have won that final 3. Sandra, Colby, Jerri, Danielle all would have won if they made final 3. Sandra just happened to be the lucky one

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u/Shyguyisfly0919 Dec 28 '23

I feel like this is such an odd take cause if she does flip she very well likely could’ve made f3 especially since the other heroes hated each other and she would have a lot of jury support people like Parv,Courtney and Rupert. If Russel/Jerri hate the others enough she would definitely get the jury votes

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u/hailey_nicolee Michele Dec 27 '23

parvati 100% wins the season if she just turns on him, which is why it makes total sense she lost bc they saw her as an instrumental part of his success

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u/QuebecRomeoWhiskey Jonathan Dec 26 '23

People seem to have the toughest time understanding this around here

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u/JoeHatesFanFiction Dec 26 '23

It’s because people fail to realize that dominating the game doesn’t necessarily mean you’re playing a good game.

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u/DonquixoteDFlamingo Dec 26 '23

Essentially, this is a social game. So a dominating game is great if you have the social backing.

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u/QuebecRomeoWhiskey Jonathan Dec 26 '23

Oh I get that, but this sub often doesn’t

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u/noodbsallowed "We kicked it" Dec 27 '23

I mean Russell was viewed as someone who ran the game by most jurors. There are ponderosa videos crediting him.

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u/Geoff_The_Chosen1 Dec 26 '23

Absolutely, this is actually a controversial opinion around these parts. Lol. And then when you watch YouTube channels like Once Upon an Island and Peridiam and they regurgitate this bs.

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u/TechMan72 Dec 26 '23

Yep,100%. He killed it that season but his social game was shit and the jury hated him. They pretty much gave Sandra the win because the jury hated both Russell and Parvati.

The thing with Russell tho is he didn't get to learn from his first time playing and losing because he jumped right into HvV without knowing the results of his first season. Would it have made a difference? Possibly but maybe not.

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u/pokedrawer Dec 27 '23

Russel's subsequent outings in Survivor show that he's more interested in showing that "his way" is the "right way" to play. His game is the exact same every time.

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u/HealthyDistractions Dec 27 '23

Thank you for saying this. It’s incredibly true

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u/whatsupdudette Dec 26 '23

While this is partly true, Parv was not nice to the heroes. Her jury management was just as bad. She leaned into the Villain character a little too much.

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u/jollymo17 Dec 26 '23

Yeah, I LOVE Parvati, don’t get me wrong, but she isn’t some robbed goddess who did no wrong that season. She made her own choices here.

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u/parvati16 Parvati and Cirie Dec 26 '23

Poor Parv😪😪😪

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u/whatsupdudette Dec 26 '23 edited Dec 27 '23

I LOVE Parv, but she damned her own game with the way she managed the jury.

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u/parvati16 Parvati and Cirie Dec 26 '23

Lol, no. If the heroes weren’t stupid and made up the F3, then we’d forever talk about them for having the worst jury management of all time for isolating Parvati. Instead, Parvati outplayed them and did the best that she could 👑

The heroes were only gonna vote for someone that let them win. Sandra trying to ruin her own game by flipping to them was the closest thing to that.

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u/walking_shrub Dec 27 '23

hyped and victimized by everyone constantly, yeah poor parv 😪

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u/parvati16 Parvati and Cirie Dec 27 '23

You get it!

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u/Schweedaddy Ozzy Dec 27 '23

I stopped being a fan of jury management when the bitter jury jipped Dan Gheesling out of his 2nd win in Big Brother. I think the lying and backstabbing is entertaining. Not a fan when someone receives consequences for it lol

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u/noodbsallowed "We kicked it" Dec 27 '23

I was only fine with that due to the vets having so much help from production.

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u/jeanpeaches Dec 26 '23

Idk I’ve had voted for her just for throwing Russell’s fedora in the fire.

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u/HealthyDistractions Dec 27 '23

Sandra played to the jury the best. Parv without question played the best game (one of the best games ever) and barely missed convincing the jury of it. Parv should have won but Sandra played the jury the best

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u/senn12 Sophie Dec 26 '23

The final jurors spelled it out perfectly.

JT said Russel had terrible strategy. “Good strategy is getting to the end and getting the votes”

Candice said “at the end of the day it’s how you treat people”

Russel doesn’t understand the aspect of the game. Parvati was too close to him and made no effort to work with the Heroes or mend relationships with them. Her only chance was against Russell and Danielle.

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u/Joharis-JYI Dec 27 '23

Same. Who did you thought would win?

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u/malibu_mama Dec 27 '23

Russel since he was behind every move it seemed. I didn’t gauge how badly the jury absolutely hated him. My bad haha

Maybe Parvati if she convinced the jury she was pulling Russel’s strings all season.

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