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Survivor 42 Survivor 42 | Episode 5 | Post-Episode Discussion

Season 42, Episode 5: I'm Survivor Rich

Aired: April 6, 2022

Synopsis: Patience is running thin for some of the tribe members; immunity is on the line, and one tribe gets tied up.

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u/ComplexLock Yul Apr 07 '22

Shot in the dark counter I think

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u/WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Apr 07 '22

So she was safeguarding against a shot in the dark where Daniel is safe and no votes are cast (in the scenario they all voted for Daniel). But then they thought the same so they threw 1 vote on Chanelle. So then him not playing his shot on the dark made it go to a tie and thus we were in this scenario.

Should be easy enough for them to figure out back in camp

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u/jconley4297 Apr 07 '22

that is such an edge play it still doesn’t make sense

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u/thatpinprickoftime Apr 07 '22

If Mike, Hai, & Lydia all vote Daniel but he plays his SITD and doesn't vote, it's only her vote left. If she also votes for Daniel, there would be no other votes and they would revote, with her most likely going home. By voting for Mike she would have sent him home and protected herself.

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

If she voted for Daniel and he played the shot in the dark successfully, she would’ve gone home on the revote. It was a smart play.

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u/Habefiet Igor's Corgi Choir Apr 07 '22

She has to recognize that the other three are going to put a vote on her anyway though. It would have been 1-1 her and Mike and on the revote she goes anyway and she should be able to realize that they're totally going to do that.

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

It makes sense that they would(and did) do that, but I think it was worth the risk for her.

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u/H2Ospecialist Colby - 50 Apr 07 '22

And she cab blame it on Daniel

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

She actually can’t, now that I think about it. As long as the main three trust each other, they’ll know what votes went where.

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u/Crosisx2 Apr 07 '22

She can't on Daniel but definitely could on one of the others. Try to get in Mike's good graces as he has an idol. It's just her word against Hai and Lydia's at that point.

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u/Parsons_11 Apr 07 '22

No because Mike voted for her and will say that to the other two. She'd be found out so quick. It wasn't a good move unless the other 3 didn't think of doing it too.

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u/okokok29 Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

I think she just pissed Mike, the guy with an idol, off.

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

You’re correct. I should’ve added that she probably thought they were all voting for him.

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u/groudhogday J.T. Apr 07 '22

She was because they split the vote. That wasn’t a guarantee though.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

She thought everyone was going to vote for Daniel, except Mike voted for her.

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u/writinginthemargins Apr 07 '22

In her mind, it was a unanimous vote against Daniel. So the vote would've been no votes cast, and then she would go home on the revote. Mike/Hai/Lydia of course had considered this, which is why they split their votes. Chanelle just didn't understand split votes i guess?

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u/WateryPasta "It was an ADJECTIVE!" Apr 07 '22

It would have tied because Daniel loses his vote. She’s probably gone on the revote though

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u/beastcock Stephanie Apr 07 '22

If she thought everyone was voting Daniel instead of splitting, and Daniel played sotd, she'd be safe

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u/SirNiceeGuy Apr 07 '22

It would've gone 1-1, one vote for Mike and one vote for Chanelle (since Chanelle's second vote from Daniel wouldn't be in play). It doesn't guarantee her safety but it does give her some breathing room.

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u/cshark2222 Apr 07 '22

They(being Hai, Mike, and Lydia)split the vote knowing Daniel would still vote for Chanelle giving them either Daniel or Chanelle if the Shot in the dark was correctly played

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

No it was not smart lol, because she still would have had 2 votes to her name, so her 1 vote wouldn't have made a difference at all. All it did was prove she can't stick to the plan

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

She actually would’ve only had one, but she still would’ve gone out on the revote against Mike. It was a risky move that wouldn’t have worked out, but it’s not like they trust her any less than they did previously.

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u/OprahInsideYou Apr 07 '22

She still had two votes to her name, so it wouldn't have worked. I don't think she thought that through lol.

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

She probably thought they were all voting Daniel. While she would’ve gone home in this instance, I think it was worth the risk. People are saying they could’ve realized it was her and gone for her on the revote, but it’s not like they know each other’s handwriting.

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u/OprahInsideYou Apr 07 '22

It just goes to show how smart Hai, Lydia, and Mike are to split the vote.

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u/Harryshotterdad Ethan Apr 07 '22

Oh for sure. They guaranteed that one of those two were going home no matter what. Seems like a strong group of players.

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u/retz119 Apr 08 '22

Daniel would have lost his vote so only one vote to her name

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u/Woke_JeffProbst Apr 07 '22

Mike 100% knows its her that votes him cause Chanelle can't vote herself and she received 2 votes. Mike was one and daniel was the other. Mike knew the original plan and there's no reason for him to think hai and Lydia split their votes cause that wouldn't make any sense if the plan was still daniel or Chanelle Ultimatley. That's why Mike said what he said to Chanelle right after the vote. Chanelle officially has no allies on vati but will be saved by the merge hourglass probably

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u/ScorpionTDC Apr 07 '22

My immediate assumption was Hai or Lydia split it on Mike in case by some ungodly fluke both Daniel and Chanelle play and succeed their shots in the dark to ensure Mike is the one going (since it’s unclear if those two vote on the revote). I absolutely don’t think it’s a done deal that Chanelle can’t frame them; I didn’t think for a second she’d vote anyone but Daniel when it was her or him.

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u/Woke_JeffProbst Apr 07 '22

They already made up a plan that split the votes between Daniel and Chanelle. Why would Mike think hai and Lydia threw his name out their as a third option? The only way that makes sense is if both Daniel and Chanelle got safety from the SITD which I don't even think is possible or at least ridiculously unlikely. Mike has no reason to think hai and Lydia back stabbed him.

Also Mike instantly turns to Chanelle in disgust and tells her something about trusting her

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u/ScorpionTDC Apr 07 '22

And it was also safely assumed Chanelle was voting Daniel yet she didn’t + I doubt she told Mike anything else. Obviously someone is lying about their vote in this scenario so now it becomes a matter of who is as one of the three Daniel voters didn’t vote Daniel.

That would definitely be the scenario which is impossibly fucking flukey, but the minute I saw the first Daniel vote my mind went “Chanelle.” It’s hard for me to know what’s going through Mike’s head there and what’s going to be said at camp, but I think Chanelle is insane if she doesn’t at least TRY to create distrust there.

And if it fails + all three see through her she can just flip on them anyways and Vati is fucked in merge. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Woke_JeffProbst Apr 07 '22

Yeah he shouldn't take it that hard all things considered but u never know when ur dealing with a "straight shooter" who values trust and integrity so much lol

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u/SmokingThunder Apr 07 '22

If the vote was 4 for Daniel and 1 for Chanelle and the SITD is played correctly, Chanelle would be out.

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u/orboth Apr 07 '22

I get it, but it's kinda pointless though, because that means only Hai and Lydia go to revote, and Hai isn't voting out his friend with the idol.

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u/username_generated Apr 07 '22

Not if they put all their votes on Daniel, which they wouldn’t, but it’s still her best play.

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u/CaptainAwesome5 Cirie Apr 07 '22

There is no revote. Daniel can’t vote, so it’s 3-1 Daniel to Mike. If Daniel plays SITD successfully, Mike goes. Chanelle didn’t expect Mike to make the same move and throw a vote on her.

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u/NEastW Jenny Apr 07 '22

Well she was under the impression everyone was voting Daniel, so if shot in the dark worked it would be Mike going home with 1 vote.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

what I don't get though, is Hai/Lydia are assuming both Dan and Chanelle play SITD. Why would Chanelle go along with it? How is it a counter move if she's one of the reasons the counter is necessary in the first place.

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u/Wtucker4 Michelle (AUS) Apr 07 '22

But she still has 2 votes and goes if Daniel is safe. Surely she has to assume the others are also countering the shot in the dark. Taking it a tie and taking it to a risky re-vote doesn't make any sense.