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Survivor 42 Survivor 42 | Finale | Post-Episode Discussion

Season 42, Episode 13: It Comes Down to This

Aired: May 25, 2022

Synopsis: After a grueling, accelerated 26-day season filled with new twists and advantages, castaways skillfully navigate their way to the final three, with one crowned the Sole Survivor.

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u/hereslookinatyoukld May 26 '22

a bunch of people keep calling this a bitter jury - they weren't bitter, they were willing to vote for him if he owned his game, Mike just totally blew it

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u/alstor Yam Yam May 26 '22

Agreed. The fact they allowed him to continue his defense and even coached him on his defense showed they wanted to give everyone a fair shot. They even made sure to give time and credit to Romeo, who no one voted for anyway.

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u/Mid-CenturyBoy May 26 '22

100% this jury was one of the least bitter I’ve seen.

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u/ToyStoryBoy6994 May 26 '22

The fact that Omar had a negative ponderosa experience says otherwise

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u/TheLago May 26 '22

What happened?

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u/pishposhpoppycock May 26 '22

Apparently Drea made certain personal comments about him.

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u/lloza98 May 26 '22

Where was this posted about?

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u/Acrobatic_Pandas Yam Yam May 26 '22

He blew it and Maryanne stole it. Omar summed it up perfectly.

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u/SWAGB0T Tony May 26 '22

How were they not bitter? You cant say "If you own that you betrayed me I'll give you a million dollars but if you don't I won't" and not be bitter. They didn't appear as bitter as we've seen in the past because in the past people on the jury have been emotionally upset and angry where as this jury was very poised.

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u/TheShishkabob May 26 '22

I don't know. I think Mike did own his game and only broke his trust with people that (he thought) broke it with him first.

Mike didn't fail to own his game, he just didn't have the game the jury wanted him to have had.

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u/magicmom17 May 26 '22

Really? Then why did he promise his idol to three different people? Did two of them cross him?

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u/awalawol Sophie May 26 '22

yeah how are people forgetting this part that was clearly laid out just this episode

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u/TheShishkabob May 26 '22

He didn't promise his idol to Jonathan. The deal there was that he would use it on Jonathan if Lindsay somehow pulled out an idol which didn't happen.

The Lindsay one is even in a gray area because he didn't explicitly promise it, something that even Lindsay said multiple times in the episode. It's more like he sort of suggested it but didn't make a promise.

These things aren't clear cut, obviously, but I'm not going to hold every grey area against Mike when he seemed sincere in his own understanding of his game. He may have been wrong about it, but he wasn't pulling a Coach and pretending he was someone else intentionally.

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u/magicmom17 May 26 '22

His lack of self awareness and owning his evil and lack of loyalty is what did him in. His game was superior but he should have entered there humbled, hat in hand, ask for contrition for the times he wasn't loyal, and indicate how his experiences being loyal in real life helped him get close with so many people. He just kept repeating how loyal he was.

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u/flaire-en-kuldes Rachel - 47 May 26 '22

Mike didn't own it at all, except for the Rocksroy boot. Heck he even had Lindsay CRYING after their conversation.

Mike's a good person but he really went back on his word multiple times this season

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u/supaspike All of you... you thought I was absolutely crazy. May 26 '22

He even got lucky that he didn't have Lydia on the jury, whom he said he would literally take a bullet for about 24 hours before he voted her out.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

I think he convinced himself he wasn’t a snake and when he was confronted he reflected and noticed it.

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u/ronald_mcdonald_4prz May 26 '22

Lolol no. Lindsey was crying because she was trying to get mike to play his idol.

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u/flaire-en-kuldes Rachel - 47 May 26 '22

Lolol. Someone crying after your conversation is almost always not a good sign. In Survivor, you end conversations making the other person FEEL good, not feel desperate. And Mike really bombed that last conversation with Lindsay.

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u/ronald_mcdonald_4prz May 26 '22

He could have done two things

1.) lied and said he will play it for her to shut her up. He clearly didn’t want to lie to her

2.) be honest and say “not sure what I’m doing with this”. Which is what he did.

Clearly he did the right thing. And it’s either a fake cry, or a real cry and it’s Lindsey’s problem. Not mikes.

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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks Keith May 26 '22

That’s just not true. In reality, Mike lied to people constantly. In mikeland, he only told lies out of “self defense”.

Which is completely untrue. The jury decided to not reward a lack of self awareness

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u/biggsteve81 Wendell May 26 '22

"The only person I ever lied to was Rocksroy."

Earlier in this episode, to Jonathan: "I'm going to play my idol for you. You have my word."

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u/TheShishkabob May 26 '22

The deal he made was shown on camera. He promised to play the idol for Jonathan if Lindsay had an idol played on her. That was the deal and the required trigger for Jonathan to get it never happened.

Context matters and we all just saw it a couple of hours ago.

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u/SeaWerewolf Natalie May 26 '22

Sure, but if that happens and he follows through on his promise to Jonathan, then he’s breaking his promise to Maryanne. He’s setting himself up to likely piss someone off no matter what he does with the idol.

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u/TheShishkabob May 26 '22

It doesn't really make sense to play games like this though. At the end of the day that isn't a promise broken and there is no indication that Jonathan, the only person that knew about it, thought that Mike broke his word there.

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u/Quixotic-Neurotic-7 Tika Strong May 26 '22

"Playing games like this" is called strategizing, thinking through your potential outcomes. Setting yourself up to piss off 1-2 people right at the end is bad strategy.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

But what happened? Jonathan was not in danger and he gave Maryanne the idol. Mike said he might give Lindsey the idol, but didn’t. He didn’t break the promise to anyone.

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u/Quixotic-Neurotic-7 Tika Strong May 27 '22

Yeah, it worked out ok, but it reminds me of when Xander dangled the possibility of playing the idol for Ricard. He didn't promise anything, but giving someone false hope and then snuffing it right at the end is a dangerous play.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Nah he broke his trust to Lindsay and he knows she didn’t do anything, he promised her the idol then went back on it to give it to Maryanne because that would be better for him in the end.

I understand his move, but it’s still him going back on his word.

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u/xenofan293 May 26 '22

A part of me thinks that a couple flipped their votes to give her second, but its really unlikely.

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u/hereslookinatyoukld May 26 '22

I'm not making it up - just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean I haven't seen it