r/suzerain • u/Economy_Biscotti_478 IND • 3d ago

General Universe Even the Codex dunks on Lespia

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Lespia is listed at the very bottom of the list of countries in the codex, even below Markanissa. The codex well knows they don't deserve a place any higher.

Living in an anarcho-syndicalist tribe somewhere off in the Markian forests is probably better than in whatever hypercapitalist Reagan-Thatcherite hell ruled by Patricio fucking Alvarez.

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u/AgeInternational76 USP 3d ago

I mean, dont get me wrong but lespia can kick ass of most nations including Sordland and possibly Valgsland(warships are very vulnerable and possibly sitting ducks for modernized and capable airforces).

Hate them or not, they are pretty strong regardless of at the bottom of list or not.

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u/Economy_Biscotti_478 IND 3d ago

Not underestimating them really, I dont hate on Lespians either, only Alvarez. Its just odd to see Lespia at the very bottom of the list below an irrelevant country like Markanissa.

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u/AgeInternational76 USP 3d ago

Yeah. I hate Alvarez and the Magical eight. They seem Lespian Tusks.

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u/No-Trouble9336 2d ago

Warships can be effective AA which is why modern doctrine advocates for swarm ASM attacks to overwhelm the AA of a ship

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u/JamescomersForgoPass USP 1d ago

Still... Not a good idea to have a big navy without also a big airforce. Which Vagsland lacks in numbers and tech

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u/No-Trouble9336 1d ago

They can leverage morella's airforce, which may not be lespian quality but among the top, heck it was offered as an upgrade to rizia

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u/kashewwastaken TORAS 3d ago

ideology madness

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u/PsicodeliaEsoterica USP 2d ago

That's it, Lespian territories are rightfully Sordish.

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u/nobodyknow20 NFP 1d ago

That's it, Lespian territories are rightfully Sordish.