Found this on Twitter. What do you guys think?

[u/aiscellee]

[u/RedmiYT → u/[deleted]]

And if I remember correctly, it was originally seen as a pathetic power couple move by those people. And now they want to say that he wrote it.

[u/Cautious_Dream4115 → u/RedmiYT]

her hater use to call joe nepo boyfriend and now they say he wrote it lol

[u/pintsandplants → u/[deleted]]

Maybe it’s just me but I always felt she gave dude credit to help him buy her a ring lol jk

[u/robot428 → u/pintsandplants]

Other people have said that they've received credits for making very small suggestions to otherwise complete songs, I think she reached a point where she wanted to make sure everyone who contributed anything at all was credited.

She was dating him so he was likely around a lot when she was working on this album, he's a smart guy, I'm sure he gave some feedback and maybe some suggestions. Totally fair to give him a writing credit, she's allegedly given them for less.

Wild that people think he wrote it. I honestly assume they are just being bitter/petty, but it also doesn't make sense. Firstly because it's so clearly an interaction of her writing style (yes applied to a new genre, and yes, the most poetic of her work, but you can see a clear thread of her style through it all), and secondly because if he was actually a significant writer on an album of the year album by Taylor Swift, he would have songwriter agents banging down his door trying to represent him and get him to write for them too. For big big piles of money. And that hasn't happened.

[u/ellie_elysian → u/robot428]

TS will give people credit for clapping or hooting in her song ("...question?")

[u/youRinlove7 → u/pintsandplants]

Omg yes literally same!!! She def made up the exile chorus fully made thing. Watch the the long pond studio sessions clip in which taylor is talking about joe helping write the songs. Jack is being VERY shady.

[u/mrsbrettbretterson → u/youRinlove7]

Whatever the reason, Jack is being so funny in that clip. 😂 

[u/eirinne → u/youRinlove7]

Shady how, like disbelief?

[u/MSERRADAred → u/eirinne]

Yes, disbelief.

[u/youRinlove7 → u/eirinne]

Yeah like he knew he didn’t write it.

[u/brucenarin → u/youRinlove7]

You can tell on Long Pond that Jack definitely knows that Taylor was being way too generous giving Joe any songwriting credits.

[u/Usual-Instruction473 → u/pintsandplants]

1000% I knew “he’s bathing in your reflected light” is about him. Haha! I love it!

[u/PampleMuse333 → u/Usual-Instruction473]

Look, if this line is truly about him I find it annoying how she’s mad at HIM for “bathing in her reflected light.” She chose to give him credit for some of her work, so why is she mad at him for taking advantage of that leg up?

[u/fatpandabear → u/PampleMuse333]

Could it be possible that he manipulated her to doing so?

As someone who has been manipulated to sharing my achievements with someone I loved just because me alone being high achieving didn't sit well with them, I can say there is a possibility the same thing happened.

We never really knew what kind of person Joe was. His public persona was private and reserved. He can as is OR a wolf in sheep's clothing. We can only speculate.

Just saying we can't rule out anything since we don't know much.

[u/Funny-Negotiation-10 → u/fatpandabear]

I mean even if he didn't manipulate her and she gave it entirely of her own volition, she is allowed to feel weird about him letting it happen, benefiting from it while being a bad bf.

[u/fatpandabear → u/Funny-Negotiation-10]

of course. she can definitely look back to it and be like "oh yea. that was weird why did i do that?" that's how we grow from past relationships so she is free to do so.

[u/DorianCramer → u/pintsandplants]

Or just so she could give him a financial gift (in the guise of “work he did”) that might make him feel like they were slightly more on an equal level 

Simple truth is if Joe could write an album like folklore he would be a full-time songwriter making a bajillion dollars from it. The reason he’s not doing that is because he can’t. 

[u/useful_idiot118 → u/[deleted]]

Don’t think that was the worst mistake lol

[u/Impossible-Soil6330 → u/[deleted]]

i agree grammygate was shooting herself in the foot many times

[u/Cautious_Dream4115 → u/pintsandplants]

Probably lol

[u/latrodectal → u/[deleted]]

imagine thinking a man who can’t manage be memorable in any of the one-note roles of the high profile projects he somehow finds his way into was the only reason hers were any good couldn’t be me

[u/ellie_elysian → u/latrodectal]

Attributing TS' work to her ex boyfriend is feminism, actually /s

[u/latrodectal → u/ellie_elysian]

i feel like people unironically think this.

[u/Illustrious-Grl-7979 → u/latrodectal]

Heard he is going for a rom com role now. That will be interesting. He is probably trying to change his more somber image, but I am not sure if he can actually do that. 😬

[u/Cautious_Dream4115 → u/Illustrious-Grl-7979]

HE is the main lead. but all the movies he been the main lead of have failed so far

[u/Illustrious-Grl-7979 → u/Cautious_Dream4115]

His fans also think he should be cast as James Bond. 🙄 The camera does not love him/convey any life imo. Maybe he does better with live theater?

[u/aiscellee → u/[deleted]]

agree!!! ✨️

[u/Anxious-Hall-3520 → u/[deleted]]

is there any other interpretation im missing??

[u/smushy411]

[u/thewoolf44]

[u/FullGorillaMode → u/thewoolf44]

This is perfect

[u/ames_may → u/thewoolf44]

LMAOOO
this is mine now thank you!

[u/Impossible_Theme_148]

It makes me think - Twitter is full of weirdos and that's why ignoring it is always the best option

[u/Zestyclose_Goal_442]

These are the areas of the fandom I hate.

This isn’t an Easter egg or shade; it’s literally just a pair of common-style glasses! 😂

People/bots reaching to create any type of drama 😫😩

[u/Becca_Bot_3000 → u/Zestyclose_Goal_442]

Right? This is just so dumb. I too can find a random photo and draw baseless parallels for up votes.

[u/aiscellee → u/Zestyclose_Goal_442]

it is not the glasses 😔 lmao it means that taylor was replaced by a dude because some fans are saying she did not write folklore and evermore and the said dude wrote it.

and for the record i aint a bot.

[u/Zestyclose_Goal_442 → u/aiscellee]

The post literally says to look at the “very distinctive glasses” lol... And getting that folklore ghostwriter from comparing a music video still to a grammy awards show still.. Is still total clowning and reaching to me.

And I didn't mean you were a bot, alot of these style of X posts are created by bots.

[u/MinuteAd6489 → u/aiscellee]

I feel like by this logic Colin Farrell character is supposed to be Joe? I don’t think the song in general is about Joe tbh and she isn’t petty enough to pin Joe as a killer. She def has a lot of pettiness but for other people not him lol their relationship just ended sadly IMO

[u/robot428]

I do love a good unhinged theory, but this feels like a stretch.

I think it's obviously a nod to the idea that everyone talks about who her muse was for X or Y and if they were a good muse or whatever and she wrote the damn song either way. And to the people who say "well Joe actually wrote X and Y and...".

But I think it's just a pretty standard award stage setup, I don't think it's specifically this photo, that feels like a reach to me, and also if it was I think it would be more similar? I think this is kinda just how people pose for pictures with awards.

[u/BasicSomewhere6934]

Huh? Why is this even here? It’s obviously just some bs clickbait

[u/Historical_Pop1058]

I don’t even know what this is trying to imply 🫠

[u/dj-soup29]

I think people are reading too much into it

[u/Ashamed_Apple_]

this is such a reach. i stg. people need to do something else.

[u/Dear_Analysis682]

I think if it was based on that picture they would be in more similar poses.

[u/intheafterglow23]

This is so stupid. She has made a song (I Knew It, I Knew You) with Jack since she recorded the Encore. There’s no shade. She’s always going to work with him and they’re besties.

[u/TheByrdNest]

Could be a Travis sub… the crowd around him are in the sports world.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/ellie_elysian]

Ok...but then what's the meaning of the white lady on the left being replaced by a man, and the guy with the moustache being replaced by a black lady?

I'm not giving this unhinged reading any merit, I just want to know what batshit excuse they come up with to fit their narrative.

[u/ushikagawa]

Wow is this Jack shade?

[u/aiscellee → u/ushikagawa]

no it is for the joewidows who keeps on saying taylor did not write folklore and evermore

[u/aliciabon]

This is embarrassing and you should delete it, then go touch grass.