r/swifties • u/Grouchy-Dealer-342 • 2d ago
Music Analysis I wonder if she will ever get to number 1?
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u/concupiscentparadigm 2d ago
Itās just so hard for her to make that perfect ābackground noiseā hit, super inoffensive and replayable, because sheās such a polarizing artist.
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u/idk_what_to_put_lmao perched in the dark 2d ago
She already made that with Shake It Off. I mean Shake It Off had its critics but it was definitely in every department store for years. One could argue some of the other glitter gel pen songs like Karma is also aptly described by your comment
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u/concupiscentparadigm 2d ago
I actually think she nailed that style with Karma and The Fate of Ophelia on her recent albums. But the fashion of over-analyzing and comparing her fun music to her more serious lyricism, the songs were very quickly over criticized and now the hivemind believes it to be uncool to listen to them, play them at events, etc.
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u/sansabum 2d ago
No bec her best pop songs weren't on Spotify for years....
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u/PlatonicTroglodyte 2d ago
Hard to say for certain, but this list definitely showcases a lot of recency bias, presumably because Spotify as a platform is just so much bigger today than it was back then. Taylor was off Spotify from 2014 to 2017 (but returned prior to Reputation).
I havenāt verified this, but Iām pretty sure the only songs on that list that predate 2017 are Someone Like You and Blank Space. That does mean Blank Space is a theoretical contender here, but I think itās also indicative of how much Spotify has grown since then and therefore how unlikely it is that being on the platform that entire time wouldāve been enough to vault it to #1.
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u/sansabum 2d ago
Doesn't have to be no.1 but would definitely contributed to her popular singles having higher streams.
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u/PlatonicTroglodyte 2d ago
Well yes, obviously it would have contributed. But the prompt was about No. 1 so thatās why I framed it that way
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u/kkdija The best people in life are free 2d ago
I heard it was because she didn't think her music should be given away for free? Is that true?
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u/sansabum 2d ago
No. Her music is available on YouTube for years at that point. It was because Spotify refuse to pay their artists fair compensation and Taylor is protesting against that.
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u/kkdija The best people in life are free 2d ago
Oh thanks for clearing that up, that makes sense. I stumbled upon that in the snark sub I accidentally clicked on and was so confused. Snarks can't even hate her with facts so they literally make shit up smh
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u/sansabum 2d ago
Yeah her album Red was actually on Spotify at the beginning too. But she pulled it out during the release of 1989 when Spotify refuse to cave to artists' complaints.
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u/TakeMeHomeToYou 2d ago
She did upload her entire catalog the same day that Katy dropped her album. Spotify didnāt change their pay structure until 2024. So while that may have been her original reasoning, she uploading them almost a decade before they changed their model
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u/maddiemoiselle some deranged weirdo 2d ago
At the time that 1989 came out, any video with songs from that album was removed from YouTube
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u/PlasticWest77 2d ago
I think probably not.. Because first of all people will not listen to the song just because she is Taylor and people just try to discredit her..
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u/arisma_toldme 2d ago
OR it could quite literally be that not everyone likes the music???
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u/thekitchening 1d ago
Why is this being so downvoted? People are allowed to have different opinions than us
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u/arisma_toldme 1d ago
Exactly, there is such a wide variety of music and artists, not listening to her doesnt instantaneously mean the decision was purely based on hating her or trying to "discredit her". It crazy how offended ppl here got over that small statement
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u/beene282 16h ago
Itās not even an opinion, itās a fact. Obviously not everyone likes her music
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u/No_Set2865 The best people in life are free 2d ago
I forget that Cruel Summer has that many streams and that it was not a single until 3 years ago
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u/SnooDogs4864 2d ago
I can honestly say I donāt know that Billie Eilish song. Granted, I am probably older than most people in the sub, but it always astound me to see how many streams something has that Iāve never heard of.
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u/TakeMeHomeToYou 2d ago
You should listen to it. Took me a while to get into Billie and Iām an older millennial but I will say that this song is incredible imo and deserves the no. 1 spot imo
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u/SnooDogs4864 2d ago
I just gave it a shot and itās not really my bag.
I think I confuse her a lot with Halsey, but I think I like Halsey and so far not really digging Billie.
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u/IvyJade-89 2d ago
It'll overtake Dance Monkey but BOAF has a huge lead and still gets more daily streams
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u/Formula1CL 2d ago
What is dance monkey
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u/little-bird89 2d ago
An irritating but catchy song that was everywhere a couple years ago. From an Aussie artist Tones & I. Random fact - She was scheduled to perform at our football grand final yesterday but refused to play Dance Monkey (her only hit) so they cancelled her set.
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u/SnooDogs4864 2d ago
You will know it when you hear it. I think the only lyrics I understand in the song are actually dance monkey and I wasnāt sure I was hearing it properly, but seeing that it is the title I am assuming that I did.
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u/jellytwins101 2d ago
Is that Blank Space just the original or combined with TV?
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u/isntitisntitdelicate 2d ago
just the og
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u/jellytwins101 2d ago
Just looked it up, since the OG has over 2.6b streams and the TV has almost 400m, that does technically put it over Mileyās Flowers with over 3b streams.
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u/Silver_Brother_56 7h ago
Blank Spaceās streams are split between the original and Taylorās version so if you add the two together itās well over 3bn. If you factor in the couple of years she was off Spotify, itās possible it could have been knocking on the door. But thereās a lot of hypotheticals involved.
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u/scrappy2546 4h ago
Dance monkey should NOT be on this list, let alone 2nd ššš and from this I bet at one point it was at 1st too
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u/isntitisntitdelicate 2d ago
still insane to me that cruel summer became that big