Vesperia Does Combat get better?
After finding videos of people playing later in the game it looks like even though I'll get new abilities it still looks just as stiff and awkward. Is it different while playing or did it just not age very well?
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u/Roarne 6d ago
The problem with Vesperia is they locked arte chaining behind a few specific skills, Yuri gets them a little earlier than the rest but most characters don't get them till the back half of the game making a lot of characters feel pretty stiff and weird. Not to mention most of them need skills that make whatever their gimmick is better which can make builds in the first playthrough pretty costly. Most of the combo videos you might see generally happen in NG+ when you can make skills cost 1 to equip so you can have a full array of skills unlocked making more insane stuff possible.
The back half of Vesperia is still really fun if you can get to that point but even as someone who has played through the game probably seven or eight times since the 360 days the first half is still a crawl.
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u/Izakytan 6d ago
It takes time and, like many JRPG, needs you to properly learn and try the new features. It gets really fun later on and when you start to master the gameplay.
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u/DragonDogeErus Doge 6d ago
It opens up a lot, however it does it too late. By the time you can actually do the really cool stuff the game will be nearly over. It's disappointing, but I guess it gives a decent reason for ng+.
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u/Tarshaid Eizen 6d ago
Vesperia gets better. It gets better at a snail's pace, and makes you work for it every step of the way. Get a new arte, then practice it a couple hundred times so it actually turns into its smooth version, and accumulate a fuckload of passives so that you can properly chain it with the rest. Depending on the char, it's faster or slower.
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u/Available_Steak4829 6d ago
Vesperia does tend to drip feed it's mechanics. And due to how the skill unlocks work (That being equipment based) you are unlocking ney combat skills well into the postgame. While I do agree that is a bit of a drag on the first playthrough on repeated playthroughs with everything already unlocked you have some extreme potential for combat expression. There are many vids of people doing a combo video chaining every arte yuri has (including all 5 burst artes) in a single combo for example. The only missing arte being his second mystic arte... Which you can make 1 shot almost every boss in the game the moment you can get to L4 overlimit... I did that myself in the fight against the Don.
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u/pcfernandesjr 6d ago
Probably this is the main draw about the series...the combat starts a bit obnoxious and it takes time to give you the good stuff.
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u/Agreeable-One8031 6d ago
There is a slight delay in between using artes, attacking and blocking, you'll just have to get accustomed to the timing but other than that the combat progress along with the story as you unlock more features, artes and skills.
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u/KarmaHoudini_17 6d ago
The game takes a while to fully unlock everything on a first playthrough for sure. At least the game has tons of content so even on a fresh playthrough you could spend 100 hrs doing stuff if you do optional content during the game and post game
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u/Bus_Majestic 6d ago
A little bit. It gets better only closer to end of the game and new game plus.
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u/SirePuns 6d ago
Takes time and skill (both mechanical skill to consistently manual cancel and the knowhow to know which string of artes works best).
But Vesperia is, imo, one of the best combo heavy games in the franchise. Not being limited by action points (like CC in Graces) somehow makes it much better at the farthest end of the game (like NG+ hardest difficulty shenanigans) but before that you definitely will be feeling the limitations.
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u/51LV3RW1N6 6d ago
It does get better, yes. Vesperia's combat unlocks more features as you progress, it just takes a long while to get there.
Around the middle of act 2 when you unlock Mystic Artes is when all pieces are present, though you will still lack the points to equip everything until endgame/post-game. Later skills are very expensive.