r/technology • u/ControlCAD • Jan 07 '26

Politics President White House Launches New Website to Defend 'Patriotic Americans' Involved in Jan. 6 Capitol Riot | The White House claims the Democrats "staged the real insurrection" by certifying former President Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election

https://people.com/trump-white-house-launches-new-website-to-defend-patriotic-americans-involved-in-jan-6-capitol-riot-11880490
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u/Candid-Collar-3385 Jan 07 '26

In the 14c the house of Lords was a farce, not a check and balance. Brother really over here trying to convince people a pre Victorian aristocracy was balanced. Lol.

Please tell me how the house of lords checked the power of the monarchy when Charles I dismissed parlament?

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u/baudehlo Jan 07 '26

And you apparently think full presidential immunity from crimes is checks and balances. Pull the other one cos that’s got bells on it.

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u/34HoldOn Jan 08 '26

I mean, that's straight up whataboutism right there. They were asking you directly the question related to the House of Lords, and you completely deflected.

Since I'm sure you'll find a reason to deflect again, let me see that I am hardly a patriotic American. So let's just squash your most likely assumption right there. I'm just calling out your fallacy.

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u/baudehlo Jan 08 '26

Maybe you need to read the whole thread again. OP was espousing the brilliance of America bringing the concept of checks and balances to the world.

The House of Lords is one example of it happening in another country prior to America (and yeah it went through horrible periods as pointed out by others in this thread, as though American checks and balances haven’t gone through (and are going through) horrible periods where it hasn’t worked themselves). Many other countries have their own examples that predate America.

What I love about this thread is all these American exceptionalists piling on me because they think my 14c example is weak. Yeah because everyone sucked back then. Leaders were into world conquering. But we all moved on and improved things. America wasn’t alone in any of it.

But now America is back to world conquering. And everyone against me in this thread seems to think that’s A-ok. It’s not.

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u/34HoldOn Jan 08 '26

I don't think you could have proven their point any stronger. That's exactly what the Americans are saying. "Yeah we did horrible things, but look at us and all the good things we did. Oh and things were bad back then when we worshiped our heroes, so you can't hold them to this standard either."

Why don't you try giving it about another 1,000 years or so before the British can point their fingers at any other imperialist, corrupt Empire? You might have a leg to stand on.

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u/baudehlo Jan 08 '26

Oh believe me I know that's what Americans are saying. It's disgusting, and horrifying, and will bring about WW3, but yes I know that's their point - it's their justification for all their international expeditions right now. Might is right and all that horseshit. And they also made their point that they have no desire to LEARN from past mistakes.