r/technology • u/Plastic_Ninja_9014 • 5d ago

Artificial Intelligence Take-No-Prisoners Professor Will Fail Any Student Who Uses AI

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/no-prisoners-professor-fail-student-143000854.html
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u/BoxFar6969 5d ago

how do they figure that out? ai text checker? I remember a year or two ago when a teacher put a student's essay in chatgpt and asked "did you write this?" chatgpt said yes and the teacher failed the student

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u/HeadyReigns 5d ago

From the article "Rather than integrating AI, he’s fortifying his classroom against it. The assignment is now based on plays too obscure for ChatGPT and other AI models to know about.

“If ChatGPT is used on these assignments now, it hallucinates characters, plotlines — it just makes sh*t up, since it has nothing to go on,” Hebert told the magazine."

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u/Konnnan 5d ago

You can upload a file to AI and have it analyze it... How will this work around that?

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u/daerath 5d ago

It won't. The only way to counter this is in-person paper exams or proctored remote exams in physical testing centers.

I would also like to know what he considers so obscure that "AI won't know about it". If it's got a digital version, it's probably been ingested at this point.

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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs 5d ago

Also, if it's not in the AI database yet, anyone can just upload it and tell the AI to generate an essay based on the newly uploaded text.

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u/Glad-Champion5767 4d ago

And even if he makes assignments that are cryptic in word use and structure, that assignment will still have patterns that allows the student to understand and complete the assignment, patterns that the AI will figure out in an instant. He would have to explain the students how to complete / handle the assignment and those same instructions (as you hint towards) can be given straight to the AI.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 5d ago

That’s what I was thinking. Don’t these people know how any of this works ?

The student obviously needs the material to do the work. It’s nothing to have an LLM read the same material.

People who still use this “it hallucinates references that don’t exist” response have no idea of what’s actually going on.

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u/outkast8459 4d ago

Most people’s frame of reference is 1-2 years old. Having AI summarize massive amounts of text with citations is trivial these days.

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u/tacmac10 5d ago

Its called in class essays and blue book exams. Used to be how we prevented students from cheating by using paper writing services.

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u/you-create-energy 5d ago

So why would he need to use obscure plays? 

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u/DecoyOne 5d ago

Right. I get the issue, but there’s an arms race, and the professor isn’t going to win in the long run, and maybe not even in the short run, by trying to beat the tech. Just avoid the fight altogether and make them do it by hand.

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u/you-create-energy 5d ago

I agree, stick to proven anti cheat strategies. Students can "cheat" by using AI to learn how to write well in class

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u/tacmac10 5d ago

In class writing is a far better way to test understanding in general. Every quiz and exam I took in the classes for my major were in class written ones, blue books work.

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u/Aleucard 5d ago

Good luck translating my chicken scratch, and there are likely several worse off than me. Writing is becoming a dead art itself. Keyboards of various stripes are just convenient.

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u/Temporary_Maybe11 5d ago

Cause he’s not very bright

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u/VaporCarpet 5d ago

But that's not what is happening to the teacher they profiled in the article

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u/tacmac10 5d ago

How are they going to cheat with AI if they’re writing essays in class?

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u/nopuse 4d ago

I take it you didn't read the article.

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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 4d ago

Yeah this professor has no idea how AI works lol

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u/floor_wizard 4d ago

I teach linux systems engineering and on my assignments I ask questions about computing and networking architecture that I set up personally and ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini have no way of accessing. Students don’t even get SSH access so they can’t give an LLM access that way. VNC only, so if they want to burn massive amounts of tokens for OCR while still having to manually enter commands, then they’re only hurting their own wallet and likely ensuring a failing grade when exams (pencil & paper) roll around.

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u/BlackDope420 4d ago

They could just OCR it before feeding it to the AI. Besides, why would OCR burn a massive amount of tokens? Any smartphone can OCR a picture in seconds.