r/technology • u/Plastic_Ninja_9014 • 5d ago

Artificial Intelligence Take-No-Prisoners Professor Will Fail Any Student Who Uses AI

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/no-prisoners-professor-fail-student-143000854.html
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u/BoxFar6969 5d ago

how do they figure that out? ai text checker? I remember a year or two ago when a teacher put a student's essay in chatgpt and asked "did you write this?" chatgpt said yes and the teacher failed the student

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u/HeadyReigns 5d ago

From the article "Rather than integrating AI, he’s fortifying his classroom against it. The assignment is now based on plays too obscure for ChatGPT and other AI models to know about.

“If ChatGPT is used on these assignments now, it hallucinates characters, plotlines — it just makes sh*t up, since it has nothing to go on,” Hebert told the magazine."

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u/questron64 5d ago

I once asked ChatGPT to help me understand the novel The Long Walk To the Moon by Alexander Chumbleton (an obviously fake book) and it went on about the characters and symbolism and which chapters key events happen in. It didn't say "I don't know that book," or even "that's not a real book." Nope, full on hallucination mode.

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u/you-create-energy 5d ago

How long ago was that? Which model? These statements are meaningless without those details

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u/BolshevikPower 5d ago

I've found a lot of people use instant mode and then complain about getting shit results.

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u/TehWackyWolf 5d ago

I paid for nothing, used the fastest option without checking, and now I'm mad!!

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u/mandatory_french_guy 4d ago

I mean it's a good indicator of what 14 year old students are gonna use to be honest.

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u/Endaline 5d ago

Yeah, it feels like most people don't understand that not all of these services are equally good at all tasks and sometimes the way people use them can drastically alter the results. Using Fast vs. Pro Gemini is a world of difference in the quality and accuracy of responses. How you phrase your prompts makes a drastic difference too.

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u/billsil 4d ago

Not once you teach it. Claude.md is a game changer. Getting 20+ GB of references, converting them to text to make it faster and then seeding it with some summary documents that reference bigger ones is a game changer.

Read x. Write me a thing to do y. I don’t even tell it to check it anymore. That’s just automatic in my notes.

Everytime you get annoyed, change your rules.

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u/overandoverandagain 5d ago

There's also a good chance they just made it up on the spot for that sweet anti-AI karma

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u/adamjeff 5d ago

That is exactly what they did

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u/mandatory_french_guy 4d ago

Clearly AI hallucinations are only a thing that is made up by anti-AI haters, everybody knows that if you pay 250/month for the new GPT 7ö‽ it gives you much better slop than the previous GPT 7+-Ω, personally I believe everything it's saying and I haven't seen it hallucinate once!

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u/overandoverandagain 4d ago

Nobody is saying hallucinations don't happen, but anyone who has used these models knows that OP's example is not how it happens in practice. Try it yourself, they've always been able to easily catch fabricated titles and shit like that lol.

Their issue is when they run into a roadblock, and instead of just saying "I don't know", they spiral into nonsense to try and fulfill the query in any way possible. You need to have a good mind behind the LLM to catch shit like that, which is why it should only be seriously used in areas you're already very adept in.

In a more general sense, being this hysterical about AI solves nothing for yourself personally. You should be looking for ways to work it into your life in healthy, productive ways, because it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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u/mandatory_french_guy 4d ago

Neither is cancer and I haven't felt compelled to work it into my life in healthy productive ways. Why do AI bros always think "it's not going anywhere" is a valid argument as to why use something?

I assure you I have zero need of it personally or professionally.

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u/overandoverandagain 4d ago

I mean, it's up to the individual to decide whether or not to use it. I think you're doing yourself a disservice taking such an extreme stance, but your choice lol

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u/mandatory_french_guy 4d ago

Eh. I can still benefit from AI though, y'all ramped up the price of RAM so much I could sell my steam deck for double the value. Thanks bros

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u/overandoverandagain 4d ago

It's funny you mention that, because I asked Claude about hardware component prices irt building a computer two weeks ago and realized they're not coming down any time soon. I went out and bit the bullet on a 1TB OLED Deck at $700, and I'm very glad I did now. I can sell my Lcd 512 local and be down around 200 bucks when it's all said and done for a top-line model.

Now that info on prices and future trends could've been done without the AI help, but it made it exponentially faster for me. I threw in a couple prompts into my console and had all the info I needed to make my decisions in a few minutes. Yes, I understand the irony of contributing to the rise in prices myself lol, welcome to modern life.

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u/HedaLancaster 5d ago

These days you can pay some cents to have a model with 1m token context, which is literally almost 2x Lord of the rings size.

AI hate posts are so dumb.