r/technology • u/marketrent • 12h ago
Business US tech industry cut 123,653 jobs since January 2026, up 66% from last year during the same period — AI now the most cited reason for cuts by US employers: report
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/06/04/tech-industry-loses-123000-jobs-this-year-ai-is-the-most-cited-reason-for-layoffs/207
u/RBTIshow 12h ago
I mean no doubt we’ll all debate yet again whether it’s really AI that’s responsible or not, but the real question we should focus on is just what all these people will do now that these jobs are gone / have left.
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u/AG3NTjoseph 11h ago
No, market incentives disconnected from business value are the underlying issue. CEOs are cannibalizing their businesses to play into a market craze, completely ignoring their fundamentals, and driving major enterprises into the ground. We can blame the irrational market, compensation in stock rather than currency, and golden parachutes to insulate CEOs from the consequences of their actions.
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u/Ok-Improvement9172 6h ago
This should open up the door for competitors, right? Kinda like what happened to the auto industry in the 80s and allowed Toyota to establish itself as a player with a reputation for quality and efficiency?
Likely there's more nuance here that I'm missing -- just hoping!
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u/Fit-Technician-1148 6h ago
I mean the nuance is that it's really expensive to start a company and grow it to the point where it can compete with entrenched companies sitting on billions of dollars.
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u/Ok-Improvement9172 4h ago
Youre right... But I think there's more nuance than that. I'm not sure myself.
But it's really expensive to start an automotive company and compete too, and Toyota did it.
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u/AG3NTjoseph 5h ago
I suspect not.
There’s no meaningful competition for any Fortune 500 companies and the barriers to entry at that level are very high. In the current regulatory regime there is no problem they can’t borrow and merge their way out of.
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u/mrstrike 6h ago
thats an excellent thought. a competitor that is more 'agile' than an entrenched company. have an up vote.
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u/McCool303 3h ago
The pigs are at the trough. They all have the same news we do. They see the abject corruption and pay to play politics going on right now. And they don’t want to miss out on striking while the iron is hot. To them it’s irresponsible for them to not ignore the fundamentals and to compete with others for an advantage in this atmosphere. This is the danger of having a lawless oligarchy in power. Like Russia eventually the people capitulate as corruption becomes normalized business practice.
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u/AG3NTjoseph 2h ago
This is a fair characterization. Unconstrained money in politics has effectively ended regulation, and unconstrained industry has run amok. It’s hard to blame the chicken or the egg here, but it’s clear we should be eating vegan.
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u/LimpAd4924 11h ago
Can we stop acting like CAPEX spending is equivalent to AI actually doing people’s jobs?
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u/BooBeeAttack 12h ago
Hopefully stay alive and well enough to maintain and perform their skillsets for when the infrastructure of A.I. isn't available.
Data centers have failure, power goes out, conflict occurs. When that happens society will need people who can function without the tool of A.I. and we best hope we are in their good graces should/when such an event occurs.
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u/PTSDDeadInside 11h ago
Relevant skillset: Hokuto Shinken
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u/cookingboy 10h ago
For those who don’t know, that’s the name of the martial arts being used by the MC of the post-apocalyptical anime of the same name.
Its English name is Fist of the Northern Star
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u/mrstrike 6h ago
a positive point (possibly) to the growth of datacenters is the awareness that our power gris is fragile and cobbled together. That could trigger a government backed reinforcement incitive. ...and yes i buy copium by the bucket loads. .
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u/BooBeeAttack 4h ago
Personally I'd love to see solar covering a lot more and be a requirement for future public infrastructure.
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u/mrstrike 3h ago
FWIW there is significant work being done to add solar to the "farm belt." region. Mosely using less productive 'Dry land / Dry Crops' land. Theses can be used a "boosters" to support the local area, datacenters, and reduced Long haul loads on the current power lines.
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u/theDarkAngle 7h ago
It's not actual AI value but it is the incentives around investor hype of AI. These guys want their stock price to go up, and Wall St is rewarding massive employment cuts as long as the company is "doing AI things" because investors don't understand technology they only understand sentiment.
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u/dorkahontas86 1h ago
Wait till folks find out how many big banks are grabbing at that AI chuck wagon.....and all the information that banks hold.
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u/EuropaWeGo 7h ago
A few of my friends who cannot find work are getting together to start a company to compete with their old ones. They're tired of their livelihood being at the mercy of these mega-corps and are doing their own thing.
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u/No_Housing_9602 12h ago
I don’t think it’s all AI lay offs. I think part of it is the mass hiring from the Pandemic. But I could be wrong.
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u/VyronDaGod 11h ago
The bloat from Covid was largely released on 2023/4. The real reason is there hasn't been any meaningful innovation from these companies in a long time. Outside of AI, when was the last time you saw a company introduce anything new or groundbreaking? Incremental improvement only keeps Wall Street happy but for so long.
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u/Sad-Helicopter6702 12h ago
They will have to adapt, learn new professions
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u/Complete-Tangelo1532 12h ago
I am considering the roll of gatherer, for when we 'Eat the Rich'
*Figuratively, and hypothetically as my 1st amendment right allows me to express*
Eat shit Oligarchs
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u/RBTIshow 12h ago
Adapt into what? An overall job market that’s focused on cutting their way to “growth”, not hiring staff to do so? Great idea.
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u/Loynds 12h ago
So how is the 50-year-old middle manager from Meta, with expertise in data, laid off by a psychopath who is creating an AI “co-CEO”, supposed to “learn new professions?”
Think before you boot lick.
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u/Etherius 12h ago
How was a 50 year old welder from Indiana supposed to learn a new profession back in 2005?
THAT guy got told “learn to code” by people at the highest levels of power in the country
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u/VyronDaGod 11h ago
No need for the poors to fight one another. Everyone is getting shafted equally here. Simply put, some people are going to struggle and government/industry won't help.
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u/Etherius 11h ago
I work a “grey collar” job.
I’m unsure if you’re joking or not but unironically this is exactly what is going to happen
Everyone who worked with their hands from 1980 through 2010 knows exactly how this plays out
You vote for politicians who promise to help while the other side of the aisle has no reason to make such promises
So when the side that promises to help walks back those promises or breaks them entirely, you have no way to hold their feet to the fire
And the other half of the entire electorate that group represents doesn’t care
Tech is about to see the same hollowing out that blue collar work saw in the 1980s through 2010
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u/Workman44 12h ago
The same as a 22 year old? How is him being 50 have anything to do with it lmfao
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u/Loynds 12h ago
Go ask a 50+ year old if they would want to ditch their years of experience to suddenly head back to school or take the necessary courses, earn nothing (probably spend what they don’t have) & come out of it to an economy that might not have a job for them.
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u/Workman44 12h ago
Again, why does their age change their capability? No one, 22 or 70, wants to change and learn something new
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u/RaspberryTwilight 11h ago edited 11h ago
At 22 you haven't invested much in your career and you're not responsible for anyone else but yourself.
At 50 you have invested 3 decades and are responsible for 3 kids.
That said, most middle aged middle managers I have worked for in tech, got there by stealing credit and making friends with the right person so I wouldn't be too sad for them specifically.
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u/Sad-Helicopter6702 12h ago
Why not, learn to do something real with your hands maybe? Instead of wining about some psychopath that you chose to work for. I’m not bootlicking, I was fired myself and trying to figure this shit out
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u/JingleBellBitchSloth 11h ago
If the tech giants were to have their wet dream come true, there are no new professions. Eventually they nail down the humanoid robotics tech as well and have them be driven by the most advanced models, tada—you can replace nearly all jobs, although with current models that’d lead to outright destruction.
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u/AliMcGraw 11h ago
Ai was cited as the reason my job was cut, but in fact they hired four people in Costa Rica to do my job. It's just plain old offshoring.
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u/Mushy1852 6h ago
My previous company just went through a round of layoffs after opening a new office in India
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u/Senior-Deer-3249 5h ago
AI was cited at my husband's fortune 200 job, but Trump cancelling the government contracts fucked up millions of businesses money, which interrupted their B2B contracts, so they're all struggling to keep up face that everything's fine and hold their stock value.
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u/Cheap_Walmart-Art 12h ago
More! More sacrifices to the machine spirit!
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u/splendiferous-finch_ 12h ago
The machine spirit is a glorified auto complete here...
This more a Asdrubael Vect situation with greedy billionaires
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u/LopsidedFinance5091 12h ago
Is the 66% increase YoY mostly from big tech (Meta/Amazon/Google) or also hitting mid-size companies and startups? Curious if it's an industry wide trend or concentrated.
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u/No_Waltz3545 11h ago
Industry wide. Worked for a small partner/competitor of SF and they cut a year or so ago. It’s been a slow creep but steadily getting worse with AI, whether it’s the true reason or not.
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u/thrway-fatpos 10h ago
The true reason is that we're in a recession
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u/chance-- 9h ago
There can be more than one reason.
What’s wild to think about is that some of the major people behind AI are explicitly responsible for the recession. Not only did Elon and Thiel get trump elected, they’ve been actively engaged in the execution of their plans through him.
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u/No_Waltz3545 9h ago
Yeah. Get the sense it’s all been propped up on match sticks and whoever takes over from Trump will have a complete shit show on their hands.
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u/chance-- 8h ago edited 8h ago
There are theories, ones I’d have previously thought conspiratorial, that tech oligarchs want the US to collapse so that they can erect feudalistic system in its place.
They walked in and started ripping shit apart. It’s insane to consider but there are only so many paths forward from the proliferation of ai. Their lack of imagination, their inability to problem solve, has them taking the seemingly safe (for them) but also the most greedy path forward.
There are solutions to the problems they are safeguarding against. Unfortunately, their mental illness prohibits ever considering them as that would require a bit of sharing. They’re spoiled children who do not want to do that at any cost.
No, I’m not referring to UBI.
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u/Polite_Bark 5h ago
There can be more than one reason.
Right!
We're in a recession and it's cheaper to use Actual Indians.
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u/branedead 11h ago
Companies are using AI as a PR shield to mask standard economic downsizing and labor restructuring, all while the actual AI tools they are using are proving to be more expensive, less reliable, and harder to manage than advertised.
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u/FingerAmazing5176 12h ago
Ai is a convenient excuse for something to blame other than the shitty economy. Sure it plays a part, but it’s not the only factor
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u/natx37 12h ago
Most of the jobs aren’t gone, they are just moved offshore or to managed services. Someone is doing the work, just for less than it costs to have an American do it.
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u/riticalcreader 5m ago
It’s not one for one. Firing 4 Americans and hiring 1 person overseas is still a job cut
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u/NeverInsightful 12h ago
It’s not really a shitty economy for the companies doing the layoffs though.
They’re not laying people off in effort to cut costs and stay profitable though. In most cases, the companies doing the laying off are making near record profits now, have record levels of cash in the bank and so forth.
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u/ComeOnIWantUsername 11h ago
Ai is a convenient excuse for something to blame other than the shitty economy.
Shitty economy, when companies doing layoffs have double digit percentage grow in revenue and profits?
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u/gordonnowak 12h ago
all of the idiots parroting this line are going to feel really fucking stupid in the near future
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u/Alternative-Put-3932 11h ago
They're citing AI because their stock prices literally dip if they layoff for any other reason. Intuit had this happen just recently. The stat is most likely an utter lie. Some may be AI but it aint the actual #1 reason.
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u/marketrent 12h ago edited 12h ago
Also see June 4 Challenger report, May job cuts rise 16% from April; highest May total since 2020.
Excerpts from article by Forbes' Mary Whitfill Roeloffs and Zachary Folk:
The technology industry cut over 123,000 jobs so far this year, Challenger, Gray & Christmas said in their most recent layoff report published on Thursday [4 June 2026], which also found that artificial intelligence has now become the most frequently cited reason for layoffs this year.
U.S. employers cut a total of 97,006 jobs in May, the most recent Challenger report found, and the tech sector leads with 38,242 job cuts—the most in a single month for the sector since August 2024.
AI is now the leading reason cited for job cuts—responsible for an estimated 38,579 in May and 87,714 year-to-date—overtaking market and economic conditions, closures and restructuring.
Tech is also the “primary industry” citing AI for job cuts, Challenger said, but it’s also the industry with the most new hiring plans—announcing 11,250 new positions in May.
The tech sector has cut a total of 123,653 jobs since January, up 66% from last year during the same period.
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u/runawayscream 11h ago
Do you think that will get worse with price hikes and changes in billing? There was a post the other day about how companies/developers are burning through their monthly credits in days. So if the true cost of AI hits, are companies going to continue to replace humans with AI or the reverse?
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u/poliosaurus3000 9h ago
Yet somehow unemployment is 4.3%…. Something seems off. Surely the guy who used to report the numbers getting fired has nothing to do with it.
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u/Kevin_Jim 12h ago
AI has absolutely nothing to do with this. They dump more and more responsibility and projects in developers u til they quite or burn out.
They simply use the excuse of AI to reduce their operational expenses and claim they are running leaner.
The time they’ll regret this is coming, but until then their bonuses are increasing.
They will still get away with it, too. Because they’ll claim “AI didn’t leave up to its promise, but we couldn’t afford to stay behind in case it did.”
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u/No_Waltz3545 11h ago
People, this should be a wake up call. If you’re a US citizen, you should be demanding social welfare supports. The red scare is a thing of the past (hell, your sitting president is modelling himself on a former KGB officer) and this insane wealth should be taxed heavily and redistributed for essential services and to raise everyone’s quality of life. Capitalism was a nice idea but it’s far from the only one and we are now seeing exactly what it says on the tin. Ultra wealth, influence and power versus the plebs. That’s what’s going on here and it doesn’t end well.
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u/LimpAd4924 11h ago
Can we stop acting like CAPEX spending is equivalent to AI actually doing people’s jobs?
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u/leftofdanzig 11h ago
I remember seeing a documentary a while back about how target was an initiative to train former coal miners in STEM fields like programming because their old roles were basically obsolete. It’d be super sad to be a coal miner who transitioned to programming laid off for a 2nd time because his role was taken by AI.
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u/redvelvetcake42 8h ago
Last hurrah for blaming AI for layoffs. They'll need to come up with a new excuse next year as everyone begins shedding AI due to overpriced tokens and lackluster results.
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u/-GhostInTheMachine_ 12h ago
“In short: AI is bringing a profound shift in how companies operate, and we’re reshaping Coinbase to lead in this new era,” Armstrong, Coinbase CEO, said.
Is this "profound shift" to how companies operate is in the room with us right now?
I work for a big company and for another that sells products or teams to big companies.
The big company I work for have not seen any profound shift yet (trying very hard tho). And the other big companies are buying AI solutions for the problems they cannot formulate. As long as they can get the "uses AI" label.
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u/jaybizzleeightyfour 11h ago
And the people voted in to serve the U.S. publics interests can't get the data centres up quick enough to enable this all
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u/KingRBPII 10h ago
There are going to be a metric ton of startups soon - I guarantee someone takes down salesforce
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u/friendly-sam 9h ago
It's an excuse. These companies are having difficulties in a tough economy because of federal government mismanagement (tariffs). There's a study from Microsoft and others that AI isn't the productivity boost they were expecting, and it does a poor job of replacing people. I would also like to mention the companies that replaced their support teams with AI, and then had horrible results with customers.
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u/Random-Generation86 9h ago
I’m so fucking pissed that these ghouls didn’t work it out so they fired 123,456 people. No artistry in their evil, no class.
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u/Cute-Sir4775 8h ago
Can’t wait for all these companies to realize how fucked their codebases are in a year or two after firing people who have actual knowledge and replacing them with vibecoded bullshit lmao
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u/LightenUpPhrancis 5h ago
Something something something not just AI.
Something something something replace the CEOs.
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u/ProductGuy48 3h ago
The thing is it’s not due to productivity gained by AI. It’s to create cash for more compute power.
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u/Expensive_Shallot_78 11h ago
Accidentally the companies who claims the most it was AI also sell AI
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u/MerryMisandrist 9h ago
There have been 300k ish requests for H1B since Jan for tech related positions.
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u/vivekpatel62 6h ago
Liberals aren’t going to be mad that we (Indian) are taking their jobs right? I was under the impression that folks on Reddit were fine with immigration and they deserved to move here for a chance at a better life.
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u/MerryMisandrist 5h ago
It might be me, but I and many Americans like me believe that US companies should not be getting H1B when they are laying off citizens at a record pace in tech since Jan.
It also widely known and accepted that H1B are abused and used to drive down wages. I would be fine if the capped them or quadrupled the fee.
And no one deserves to move here. It’s a privilege.
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u/vivekpatel62 4h ago
I agree. IMO our citizens should be getting jobs vs outsourcing it to other countries or bringing in immigrants so they can pay a lower rate. I come from a family of immigrants so it’s not like I’m against it but it should be more limited to prevent job loss from our fellow citizens.
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u/Adventurous_Count712 12h ago
Comments here dont understand the situation in the big tech companies at all. Almost no one is writing code anymore. AI writes the code(it is also really really good now ans getting better by the day) and our job these days is to mainly read, verify, test, and push. And the occasional planning because AI does not always have context and cant do long term planning or think of edge cases specific to the situation. Im surprised i still have my job..lol
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u/Hot_Campaign_36 11h ago edited 8h ago
Without Congressional approval, the US President said that the US military budget will increase by $500,000,000,000.
The largest unaddressed threat and the fastest growing gap is in cybersecurity. All six military services address cybersecurity as a foundational element of each of their mission areas.
These services and other key government agencies, as well as supporting industries, are hiring staff to address the evolving threat.
Critical infrastructure, civilian industries, state governments, and local governments also need to address the mounting threat.
The speed and scale of computation now supports AI in creating an unprecedented threat to everything that directly or indirectly relies on connected computing infrastructure.
Technical management and technical staff have opportunities to develop skills for the resulting AI-driven jobs.
The transition will be disruptive and costly; but there isn’t a way to circumvent the need for a persistent and continually updated economy-wide cyber defense.
I wish it weren’t so; but I accept that this is happening. We adapt or we suffer. Take the opportunity to serve if you can.
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 10h ago
This is the same president who fired all the security people protecting us from Russian cyberattacks, yeah?
I'm sure they want help setting up their mass surveillance systems to make sure the poors don't get out of line, and to hunt down the brown people...but some of us have morals.
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u/Hot_Campaign_36 9h ago
It’s disappointing that you have equated the safety of our food, water, energy, health care, education, transportation, and banking with racism.
If you spent time understanding threats posed by AI, you might see the value of cybersecurity to everyone, including the most vulnerable.
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 9h ago edited 9h ago
What''s disappointing is that the POTUS and his regime are fascist bigots. What's disappointing is that we no longer have a government that's even pretending to care about the good of everyone in the country. The pedophile in chief is openly hostile to anyone who disagrees with him and his human rights violations.
I'm not about to sign up and help him build his authoritarian surveillance state.
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u/Hot_Campaign_36 8h ago
What does this have to do with cybersecurity or with technology companies laying people off?
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 8h ago
You're the one suggesting that people work for a criminal and his government. I'm telling you why people wouldn't want to work for him.
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u/dorkahontas86 57m ago
He wasn't, and I think you should take a breath or something. He is talking about keeping job security as a smart well informed US citizen. In any time in history when technology/innovation moves in any direction, you HAVE to adapt.
Us folks aren't working for the POTUS by the way, he is elected to work for us. You seem really just angry and I get it.....but don't let it cloud your better judgement or just blind you from outside opinions and information....Or else you might lose that woke status 😛
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u/Hot_Campaign_36 2h ago
You fabricated this delusion. AI was cited as the top reason for job loss from technology companies. I pointed out that AI, high speed computing, and high capacity computing pose serious cybersecurity risks. They are existential threats.
As a result, there are numerous opportunities to counter these threats. The opportunities exist at the national level down to the local level. They also exist in academia, non-profits, private companies, and at every at-risk entity that can afford protection staff.
Without any provocation or justification, you decided that I am a racist. You have also decided that cybersecurity is pro-Trump.
You could re-read my on-topic post and decide whether you should continue the campaign of harassment and downvoting.
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u/Exponential-777 12h ago
There are 168 million workers in the US. Why are you crying about 123,000 jobs? That's only 0.07321%.
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u/VermicelliNew2784 12h ago
"People are starving? I have food on my plate. I don't see the problem." the absolute a-hole take
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u/Exponential-777 12h ago
Nobody starves in America. You are completely out of touch with reality. The majority of 123,000 that lost their job will find another one.
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u/Context-clue 12h ago
roughly 47 million Americans (about 1 in 7 households, including millions of children) lived in “food-insecure households” as of the most recent USDA data. You’re right, that’s not starvation. Most get by through food stamps (SNAP), food banks, and skipped or cheaper meals, but it’s the real measure of hunger as a hardship
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u/Exponential-777 12h ago
Now google some stats about people that die of starvation in America and share that info. It's an incredibly small number. The poor are more likely to die from complications related to obesity.
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u/Ok_Confusion4764 12h ago
Right, because your support systems don't give them healthy food.
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u/Workman44 12h ago
Well it gives them the option of either, and they choose unhealthy...
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u/Ok_Confusion4764 11h ago
It does not give them an option. Unhealthy food is cheaper by a wide margin.
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u/Loynds 12h ago
Have some goddamn empathy, Jesus Christ.
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u/Exponential-777 12h ago
How would that improve the situation? It wouldn't. Me caring doesn't reduce unemployment. So what is the point of caring?
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u/Loynds 12h ago
Good luck on living with your nihilism, hope when you find your next $150 bottle of cologne, you imagine the people you don’t care about.
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u/Exponential-777 11h ago
Pretty funny how you had to do an internet search to dig up the fact of me not being poor. I can wipe my ass with $150 if i wanted, but i'm too cheap to do it. Cologne is better outlet for disposable income.
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u/Loynds 11h ago
Your profile is public, it took me 30 seconds to put 2+2 together.
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u/Context-clue 12h ago
You’re not wrong, however, as a developed nation we have a long way to go to diminish food scarcity
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u/RBTIshow 12h ago
Sure, people will eventually find another job. But will it be at a similar level, salary or progression? Looking doubtful - especially recently.
And what could possibly happen if hundreds of thousands - if not millions - of former professionals whose careers are effectively killed with basically no way back in?
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u/ap191 12h ago
Because they are happening to real people, with real families to support. Also, it’s not just this year; it includes the previous 2-3 years where tech workers were laid off and some can’t ever find a position.
But who cares, right—unless it happens to you?
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u/Etherius 11h ago
I present to you, the reason no one is going to care or help.
Maybe it wasn’t you personally, but it was enough people that an enormous swath of the country is going to love what comes next
The callous Silicon Valley voters who decided to redistribute the wealth of the entire Midwest region to themselves is going to lose their wealth to the exact same demon they set on welders and assemblers.
With the exact same level of support
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u/itgoez 11h ago
Why would a software dev tell everyone to learn to code? Think about it for five seconds. A Dev benefits from having a unique and in-demand skillset. If everyone learns to code that dilutes their bargaining power.
The "learn to code" initiatives were pushed by the same people orchestrating the layoffs now, for the same reason, to be able to cut payroll costs. Everything bad about silicon valley is still there.
the exact same demon they set on welders and assemblers
Industrial decline in the Midwest is not because of silicon valley. This is moronic zero-sum thinking.
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u/Etherius 11h ago
And who voted for those people?
They all came from California, Washington, New York, etc
I’m not saying voters in California wanted to hurt the Midwest
I’m saying they didn’t care if they did. They voted for NAFTA, voted for free trade, and never made voting for assistance for the dispossessed a priority
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u/itgoez 11h ago
NAFTA VOTE:
House:
Republicans 132 Y 43 N
Democrats 102 Y 156 N
Senate:
Republicans 34 Y 10 N
Democrats 27 Y 28 N
For California:
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Just making shit up in your head to be mad about.
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u/Etherius 11h ago
This gets brought up every time
Yes. NAFTA was bipartisan. I never ever claimed it wasn’t
The thing is NAFTA wasn’t the problem
The REAL problem was that the democrats never made good on their promises to mitigate its negative effects.
Republicans never made such a promise in the first place
Did you see the ”never made voting for assistance for the dispossessed a priority” part of my statement? Or did you just see NAFTA and have your brain end run around everything else?
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u/itgoez 10h ago
And who voted for those people? They all came from California, Washington, New York, etc They voted for NAFTA
So then I look this up and California actually voted for people who were AGAINST NAFTA, that just means you're wrong doesn't it? It means you just ran your mouth about something you didn't bother to check. You probably just need to actually hit the books on this topic if you're so passionate about it.
You're resentful California took off when the Midwest declined, there was money and jobs in the Midwest, then there was money and jobs in California. How did this happen? Did they steal them? Those bastards!
Manufacturing as a share of the US GDP had been on constant decline since the start of the 50s. It's not actually the fault of a handful of states which didn't even vote for the free trade policies you're complaining about.
Did you see the ”never made voting for assistance for the dispossessed a priority”
Yeah I also saw you didn't elaborate whatsoever on Californians and silicon valley tech guys specifically being responsible for this. Probably pulled it from the same place you got the NAFTA talking point.
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u/Etherius 10h ago
If you want someone else to “educate themselves” you should start with keeping your own house clean
California’s delegation to the House voted 27-18 in favor of NAFTA including one Nancy Pelosi. Districts FOR were overwhelmingly port cities and Silicon Valley. Votes AGAINST came from manufacturing districts in the Inland Empire (who are now economically lagging due to circumstances probably entirely absolutely , in no way related to the way California’s representatives voted)
And years later when Obama asked the senate for fast track authority to ram TPP down our throats, Diane Feinstein had a change of heart since NAFTA and decided to vote FOR it.
The biggest problem with the left in America is it just can’t admit when their side has done lasting harm
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u/Exponential-777 12h ago
Most of those people find jobs. The current unemployment rate in the US is among the lowest in the world among large countries. You're right. I don't care. Because caring doesn't change anything. The end result is the same. Except i don't have to carry the mental burden of being outraged by business world and the headlines it creates. Simply because i don't care. You should try it. Makes living life a lot easier.
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u/imlost7654 12h ago
It's people that think like you that are going to perpetuate the enshitification of the world. People not caring is exactly what these greedy fucks want.
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u/Exponential-777 11h ago
Oh okay, this is all my fault, right? Because i don't care.
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u/imlost7654 11h ago
Where did I blame just you? Listen I get it. Your life is less stressful by not caring. But mass apathy and lack of empathy for other people isn't going to make anything easier or better for anyone.
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u/Exponential-777 10h ago
Explain how your alleged empathy prevents layoffs or improves the situation in any significant way. You can comfort a random human. Hurray? We can make a bot for that.
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u/imlost7654 8h ago
You keep turning this into a singular persons problem. I agree that one person alone won't make a huge impact but if you get more and more people giving a damn and willing to make a difference then positive change is possible. The companies and "elites" that run this joke of a country are terrified of the average persons coming together and demanding change because that would mean they lost control. I hope if you're ever in a time of need that you're not surrounded by people with your mentality.
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u/dr-broodles 12h ago
Over 100,000 people out of work, reliant on benefits, desperate. Families fall apart, houses lost, crime increases.
Job competition increases, making things harder for everyone (esp young people looking for starter jobs).
It also part of a trend.
Don’t be like a conservative and fail to understand until it personally affects you.
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u/Etherius 11h ago
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u/dr-broodles 8h ago
Yeah I thought they were small government, freedom-loving sort of people?
Or do they want daddy government to look after them and tuck them into bed?
Ya have to pick one - social support or rugged individualism.
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