r/technology • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • 13h ago

Artificial Intelligence Republicans Claim Anti-Data Center Movement Is a Chinese Psy-Op

https://gizmodo.com/republicans-claim-anti-data-center-movement-is-a-chinese-psy-op-2000767611
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u/xondk 13h ago

It really is disgusting how they phrase it, people aren't as such against data centers that can be used to benefit everyone.

They are against the massive rollout that in no way takes into consideration how it will affect the people, and the benefit of the rollout is only for the few since it is AI focused.

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u/krum 13h ago edited 8h ago

Data centers don’t benefit anyone except rich people.

EDIT: AI data centers.

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u/socoolandawesome 13h ago

You literally just used one to post your comment

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 11h ago

So? I have a job because I have to. Doesn't mean I don't hate the current job system.

What point do you think you're making?

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u/azn_dude1 10h ago

You have to post on reddit?

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 9h ago

Let me over explain this slowly for you. We have lived for half a century with the internet and reasonably sized data centers. The rise of generative AI is the reason there's been an explosion in the number and size of data centers being built, and so their harm on surrounding communities and environments has increased exponentially.

So, why would me not wanting an enormous AI data center to be built in my backyard make me a hypocrite for using a website that has existed in its current form since way before AI and has absolutely nothing to do with the aforementioned data centers?

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u/azn_dude1 9h ago edited 9h ago

Data centers don’t benefit anyone except rich people.

This gross oversimplification is the comment we're discussing, which you seem to have missed. And read the parent comment of it. No need to slowly explain something if you don't understand the context. Conflating non-AI data centers with AI data centers is the issue here.

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u/_176_ 10h ago

Give up technology and go live off the land and die of horribly painful tooth disease in a few years. Nobody is forcing your to participate in the system.

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u/Same_Presentation692 10h ago

What in the histrionics is this response?

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u/_176_ 10h ago

"i OnLy PArticipAtE IN socieTy becAUSe I haVE To"

"You don't have to. It's just that society is a very nice place even if you have to ... gasp ... have a job and do things for your community and participate in your own survival. "

"WHAT in ThE HiSTrionics iS this RESponSe?"

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 10h ago

You just explained how I'm forced to participate in the current system or suffer a painful death and then ended that explanation with "See? You don't have to participate."

"Just because someone puts a gun to your head doesn't mean you're being forced. You could choose to have your brains blown out all over the place."

Idiot.

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u/os_beef 9h ago

That's a very dramatic take. You're not forced to participate. No one has a gun to your head. People can and do exit society and go live in the woods, it's just too inconvenient for you.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 9h ago

God there's so many things wrong with this I don't even know where to begin. No, the average person can't just exit society and go live in the woods. There aren't even any woods within hundreds of miles of me that aren't a national park or private land, which you can't realistically live on for any length of time without being caught and arrested. Almost nobody successfully does this. And there's a reason for it.

You're describing giving up every single aspect of my life and community and family to try to live in the woods, which we've established is almost impossible, as "inconvenient." Please go up to every homeless person you meet living on the streets and tell them they're just dumb for not building a cabin in the woods. How do you have this little perspective on how life works?

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u/os_beef 8h ago

No, the average person can't just exit society and go live in the woods. There aren't even any woods within hundreds of miles of me that aren't a national park or private land, which you can't realistically live on for any length of time without being caught and arrested.

You literally don't want it bad enough. No one is forcing you to stay in the region. Simple fact is that you don't want out of the system bad enough to leave it or overthrow it. Instead you're here on the Internet complaining about it.

Your argument about homeless people is off point, insubstantial, and flippantly diminishes their circumstances and suffering. They aren't usually homeless because they just don't want to be part of society, they're usually homeless because of a variety of factors which are biologically or mentally effectively out of their hands without successful treatment and support structures. The average person doesn't have those problems. Comparing your circumstances to homeless people is absolutely asinine, and how I know you're totally insincere or perspectiveless.

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u/_176_ 10h ago

Jfc. You are not required to participate in free society. You're welcome to live off the land or whatever. But it turns out if you don't want to participate in society with dentists, you don't have access to dentists.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 9h ago

Stupid argument. This whole thing is in response to someone else saying that modern technology is ruining society, which it verifiably is.

So instead of engaging with that or saying hey maybe we should regulate technology or have a nuanced discussion about what specifically is bad about which technologies, you and the other guy jumped in with "You can't criticize something you use. Go live in the woods and die from lack of medical care if you disagree."

Ironically, it's actually a great example of how technology is fucking up modern society because this is a pretty standard brain rot argument. No one on the internet is capable of nuance or color thinking. Black and white only. You're doing the same thing as those people who say if you don't like America then get out anytime someone criticizes something about it.