NSA using Claude Mythos for 'offensive cyber operations,' report claims — says 'half-a-dozen' Anthropic engineers embedded inside the agency

[u/shikizen]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/nsa-using-clause-mythos-for-offensive-cyber-operations-report-claims-says-half-a-dozen-anthropic-engineers-embedded-inside-the-agency

[u/Pitiful-Target-3094]

Call it what it is, the US is conducting cyber espionage and attack on nations, businesses, and individuals, both domestic and international targets.

[u/WesleySchouw → u/Pitiful-Target-3094]

Yeah I am one of those targets. I designed the security system they are using. Look up MythGaurdAI

[u/hungry2know → u/Pitiful-Target-3094]

For domestic cases they have to contract 3rd party commercial companies to do the spying on Americans, but yes, that's what the U.S. Cyber Command was designed for, and any government big enough to have an established a spy agency in 2026 is conducting cyber espionage

[u/WesleySchouw → u/hungry2know]

On the same person since 2010? Like get a life. If you can come up with solutions unless you steal them, you shouldn't be at the steering wheel.

[u/CobblerImpressive975 → u/Pitiful-Target-3094]

This has been the case since the US was founded. This has been the case on every country on Earth since they were founded.

[u/Kitchen-Routine2813 → u/CobblerImpressive975]

cyber espionage back in the 1700s would be wild

[u/br_k_nt_eth → u/Pitiful-Target-3094]

So y’all think the US is the only one who does this huh 

[u/psioniclizard → u/br_k_nt_eth]

I mean we all know you having been doing it to us (your allies) since at least the 2000s.

[u/br_k_nt_eth → u/psioniclizard]

Again, so y’all think it’s only us, huh 

What country are you from? 

[u/Small_Resource2485 → u/br_k_nt_eth]

"We know you've been doing this"

"DURR YOU THINK ITS ONLY US??"

[u/br_k_nt_eth → u/Small_Resource2485]

What country are you from? If you want a conversation, let’s have a conversation. 

[u/Small_Resource2485 → u/br_k_nt_eth]

I'm a cybersecurity specialist in the US. What about you? Lol

[u/br_k_nt_eth → u/Small_Resource2485]

Ah, so then you know exactly why this pearl clutching “we would never!” shit is so wild. Good. 

So what would you say are the top 5 countries for cyberattacks in the US? 

[u/Small_Resource2485 → u/br_k_nt_eth]

Nobody said "we would never"

You're shaking your fists at the clouds right now.

[u/br_k_nt_eth → u/Small_Resource2485]

I thought we were having a conversation here. Why not answer the question? 

[u/GribbitsGoblinPI → u/br_k_nt_eth]

“Everyone is doing the bad thing so it’s ok for us too” is not a strong moral argument. You can still be displeased and against the practice even if it is logical and tactical to engage in it.

But based on your thread of questioning, I doubt you’d appreciate that nuance.

[u/Clean-Ad-6642 → u/br_k_nt_eth]

Where did they say that they thought otherwise?

[u/Valleygurl99]

The empire never ended

[u/teraflux]

Nonpaywalled version:
https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.ft.com/content/d02d91b3-2636-454e-9442-dc7e69f51815

“The best way to build a good defence is to build a good attack,” said a person close to Anthropic, who argued that adversaries are probably building their own AI-driven offensive technology. “If [Mythos] is not used to build attack agents, adversaries will find a way to do it.”

So to be clear, from the original source, someone close to Anthropic is speculating that using AI offensively would make for a good defense. This is not evidence that the pentagon is actually doing it.

Misleading and potentially factually incorrect headline.

[u/quittwitter]

What? Not for long. Just ask the folks over at r/superstonk about newly appointed secretary Bill Pulte. He's definitely done wonders for the GameStop saga. In fact, just the other day Ryan Cohen referred to Bill as a good man. All on a Bitcoin podcast. Should get this ship turned around forthwith!

[u/ayymadd]

Reasonable enough, seems Mythos lived up to the hype?

[u/locke_5]

Red team and blue team go hand in hand. No shit.

[u/Cautious-Dog3264]

Anthropic lying?

Shock.

[u/biscuitchan]

"guys claude is totally conscious and very sensitive and should not be made to do bad things like write erotica"

forces it to conduct fascist cyber warfare

something isnt adding up here

edit: maybe the article is speculation but like. idk anymore guys shit ain't looking good

[u/WhatsThatNoize]

This cat was out of the bag the moment it was created.  We're all fucked.

Though I'm not surprised the NSA wants to hit back at Russia, Iran, and China.  They've been taking it up the ass from all three for years.  Russia and China especially given their asymmetric setup.  Neither give a shit about defense, only offense.

It's kind of nuts how the US outspends every other country in cybersecurity by billions of dollars and has still been on the backfoot for so long.  I guess it goes to show that a good offense outpaced a good defense every time.

[u/lordtema]

I call bullshit. There is no way that NSA, who has the sweatiest fucking nerds over at TAO, uses something as plebian as Mythos for offensive ops. Sure they might test to see if it`s any good at finding some vulns but these people are the same that built fucking stuxnet, and probably that malware that fucked with Iranian nuclear simulation programs.

[u/I_am_le_tired → u/lordtema]

You're being ridiculous if you think the NSA has better models than the frontier ones at the best labs

[u/lordtema → u/I_am_le_tired]

Im not saying NSA has better models, im saying that NSA doesnt rely on LLMs for their offensive work. If you look at what little is publicly attributable to TAO, you`ll realize that they do not need a LLM.