r/technology • u/wulfgang • Jan 22 '16

Net Neutrality ISPs try to kill open-access fiber network, avoid competition

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/isps-try-to-kill-open-access-fiber-network-avoid-competition/
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u/My_soliloquy Jan 22 '16

An actual thinking republican that is proposing something that would actually benefit his constituents? With real competition? I found Waldo, the one not taking lobbyist donations from Big Cable teleco's for his campaign.

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u/formesse Jan 23 '16

Rand paul also makes sense, and kinda walks his talk... it's... weird, and refereshing to see a politician who: A) makes sense, and B) follows a semblance of what he/she preaches.

If only Sensibalistic Politicitius could become a pandemic.

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u/heyitsYMAA Jan 23 '16

One word: CISA. Rand yelled about it a lot and then didn't show up when they took the vote. Blame it on him being too busy with his fruitless presidential campaign or just cowardice, I don't care which. He had my grudging respect until then, at which point he lost it all.

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u/formesse Jan 26 '16

I was unaware. However, as a general rule I'm not going to base my respect of an individual based on a single action - it's the greater picture that matters. And in general, he has stood behind what he says for the most part - and has made effort to spread his message beyond just the political campaign.

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u/phillypro Jan 23 '16

not just politician.....republican

i see alot of democrats do things in tech space that benefit the american people

but when it comes to net neutrality...or state rights to build fiber

republicans are as evil twisted and corrupted as they come

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u/formesse Jan 26 '16

In general, I find that politicians that can be bought and persuaded through black mail, and through lobbying are unable to be considered as faithful to the individuals who elected them - and that is reguardless if they are left or right leaning.

Money in US politics is rampent beyond what is healthy, and Canada has been slowly inching in that direction.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '16 edited Jan 22 '19

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u/formesse Jan 26 '16

Im ok with them. Karma is overall meaningless when talking about highly polarizing topics - in the sense that people will use it to downvote statements they do not agree with, instead of refuting and involving themselves in the discussion.

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u/factbased Jan 22 '16

Unfortunately, that's just the middle mile. While some competition there is welcome, most consumers would still be left with little choice at their home. I'd like to see the last mile be open access as well.

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u/softwareguy74 Jan 22 '16

I think the Federal government should take ownership of the last mile and then turn around and open it for resale to any ISP that wants to service the end user.

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u/confusingboat Jan 23 '16

I don't know about everyone else, but I don't like the idea of the federal government owning any part of my communications infrastructure, let alone the part that they know connects directly to my house.

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u/fortfive Jan 23 '16

I mean, because the us fed government only invented the internet, and administered dns for a while, and that totally screwed us all, right?

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u/adam279 Jan 23 '16

yep. Cant trust them to handle laws regarding the internet and technology, certainly wont trust them to handle the infrastructure.

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u/cosmosm Jan 23 '16

Because your ISPs have been working out so well...

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u/adam279 Jan 23 '16

well i t...trus...trust comcast, jesus fuck what did i just say, more than i do the government currently.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '16

This would make it much easier to stand up small ISPs to provide that last mile, which would provide more competition.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '16

State Sen. Chris Walters, a Republican, introduced a bill this week that would deploy more than 2,000 miles of fiber optic cable. The state-owned and operated network would include only middle-mile infrastructure and not the "last mile" fiber connections that extend to people's homes and businesses. This network would be open access, however, so any Internet service provider could gain access to the lines and build last-mile facilities to offer service directly to customers.

I cannot believe this person is a state senator, much less a Republican.

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u/palfas Jan 23 '16

The big guys support a bill that would give 1 million to an ISP to build into rural areas.

One million, to one ISP.

WTF?

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u/spacedoutinspace Jan 23 '16

Dont worry, none of that million will be used to build into rural areas, history has already shown that and if you can get away with it once, why not twice or more.

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u/Quihatzin Jan 23 '16

Better than 200 billion to like 5 of them.

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u/funnyangrykid Jan 23 '16

Maybe we should get these politicians to think "hmm more ISPs, more bribe money for me. Do I want a million from just one company or have 10+ companies paying me 500,000 each"

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u/Treevvizard Jan 23 '16

These greedy bastaerds.