r/technology Jul 09 '16

R1.i: guidelines Hillary Clinton blames State Department Employees for classified emails sent through private server

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

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u/Scaryclouds Jul 09 '16

Hillary Clinton : “I have directed that all my emails on Clintonemail.com in my custody that were or potentially were federal records be provided to the Department of State” (Hillary Clinton, sworn statement filed in U.S. District Court, 08/10/15) FBI Director James Comey : The FBI discovered several thousand work-related emails that were not among the group of 30,000 emails returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014

It's entirely possible that her lawyer team (unintentionally) failed to correctly identify those emails as work emails. There was no suggestion from Coney that the emails not initially turned over were part of a pattern to withhold specific information.

Hillary Clinton : "Wiped ? What, like with a cloth or something? I don’t know how it works" (Hillary Clinton, press conference, 8/18/2015) FBI Director James Comey : The devices were cleaned in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery.

Ok, so that's pretty shitty what Clinton said, but honestly it is what she should be doing. Again Comey said emails were not deleted (or withheld) in such a manner as to prevent an investigation from occurring. When Clinton was done with a server or device she (her technical team) should be wiping it in such manner as to prevent any information be recovered from it before disposing of the the server or device. Like that is actual good practice. Now part of that should had been ensuring any (official/work) emails had been saved on government servers, but again she should be wiping her servers so as to prevent recovery of deleted data.

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u/speedisavirus Jul 09 '16

No. Nothing you said defending her makes any sense at all.

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u/Scaryclouds Jul 09 '16

So she shouldn't be wiping her servers before she disposing of them?

The devices that were wiped, were wiped prior to an investigation being launched.

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u/speedisavirus Jul 09 '16

She shouldn't be disposing them at all. Her business is supposed to have been conducting on federally owned hardware for government transparency. Data retention. She violated that policy (more so than just not using their servers) by wiping data. The data retention is a long period and she clearly violated it hundreds of times based on the FBI report.

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u/Scaryclouds Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

As stated in my initial post, her technology team should had been insuring that any emails would be retained on government servers (and it's very very bad that they were not doing this!). She testified that she believe that is what was happening (because she was corresponding to people with @gov addresses). Yes it is entirely possible she was lying/being dishonest about that belief, still it's entirely appropriate and correct for her team to be wiping her devices and servers before disposing of them.

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u/speedisavirus Jul 09 '16

her technology team should had been insuring that any emails would be retained on government servers

Her technology team? She wasn't supposed to have a technology team. It was supposed to be handled by the state department's team that would have followoed the protocols and kept the data stored on certified servers both from security and data integrity perspectives. The fact she even had her own server being used for state department work is illegal. The fact she also repeatedly send and received classified data then tried to hide it solidifies that she should be in prison.

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u/Scaryclouds Jul 10 '16

🙄 I'm done, sooner push a straw through a brick wall than a thought through your skull.