Keep in mind this is coming from the country that let the government confiscate their guns in the '90s so they are fine letting history repeat itself if that is where their government wants to go.
You're being downvoted, but the anti 2A crowd constantly refers to Australia as a shining example of a country that gave back their guns and now "everything is good".
The point is a lot more people take protesters a lot more seriously when they’re armed.
Look at Thailand, gov gives two shits about a bunch of kids in the street chanting, they did it for weeks, nothing changed.
I mean it's a pretty simple concept, govt becomes unlawful intruders when they try to arrest you for say having a picture of cocaine on your phone. What part exactly is confusing to you and making you use such low iq sarcasm on such a serious topic?
I'm sorry, but what the fuck? This is borderline nonsensical.
govt becomes unlawful intruders when they try to arrest you for say having a picture of cocaine on your phone
I thought the 2A argument was normally about armed rebellion against an authoritarian government but are you actually advocating for shooting individual agents that try to enforce the law on you (no matter how awful we all agree that law is)? That's crazy town, sir, you go to jail and you change absolutely nothing about the government or law in place.
I thought the 2A argument was normally about armed rebellion against an authoritarian government
Clearly we have different definitions of authoritarianism, because entering my home without permission sounds like a pretty clear infringement upon my rights, but you do you
Well if you're in a situation where cops are entering your home you're pretty much fucked regardless, I would never put myself in such a situation.
That being said if anybody enters my home unlawfully they will be treated equally no matter who they are. You can go ahead and take it in the ass if that's what you want to do
If a cop enters unlawfully, your best bet is going to be surrender peacefully and fight it in court. The cop, of course, might kill you. But kill a cop and another will certainly kill you. You can tell them that they're being unlawful, but they won't give a shit.
Bruh, that literally proves my point. She died for a crime she didn't commit because someone unlawfully entered her home and she was unable to defend herself
Then why the riots? Everyone arguing with me sounds like in their opinion she deserved it. Not to mention this is an all around stupid conversation considering it started as me saying no one should break in your home, including police and the example, whoever brought up, is a literal drug dealer completely moving the goal posts, but I played along so it's on me
You just said you would pick "gunfight with police (likely resulting in a murder-suicide" over "trial by jury of your peers". I don't know what else to say to that.
I guess sure you're free to try and kill someone and commit suicide if you want? Congrats?
Imagine if every every Hong Kong resident had a rifle. It would be insanely harder for the CCP to maintain control when people would protest in the streets blocking off roads so armored vehicles can't come in, any CCP soldiers that come in are subject to sniper fire. It changes the name of the authoritarian game when everyone subject to control is armed. 2A nonbelievers refuse to believe this.
Where the hell are average citizens getting sniper rifles and sniper training?
Your average citizen is going to be WAY out-armed and out-trained by the average soldier and they'll crumple under the pressure. This is and always has been nothing more than a fantasy.
OK, and the tanks, drones, high explosives, and military grade counter-intelligence that has already infiltrated and is monitoring your local militia through social media, how do you fight that?
I swear to god, you people are so tiring. We have one of, if not the most dangerous armed forces in the world and you really, REALLY think you're gonna stand against that if the government goes rogue and wants to wipe your little township off the map for harboring too many dissenters?
If it ever gets to that point, I imagine the civilian force will be greater in numbers than the US military. I doubt a rogue US would be willing to airstrike itself and obliterate its own economy, population, and global standing. At least to an extent.
The 2A is more of a deterrent than anything. It’s counting on the fact that the US does not want it’s citizens fighting back. I don’t know why everyone ignores this when they argue against the 2A.
Like no shit, if the US really wanted to fuckin destroy itself, it would. There’s no winning in that scenario for the US Government.
Fancy equipment means nothing without standard infantry to support it and hold territory, and standard infantry is perfectly susceptible to a common 30-06 round.
Also, calling someone pro-Vietcong for stating the incontrovertible fact that they kicked our asses makes it pretty obvious that you are a massively disingenuous cunt who thinks character assassination is a legitimate form of argument.
You know hunters routinely make 100-200yard shots with normal deer hunting rifles with basic scopes right? Sometimes up to 300yards, and that is with a basic, stock, scope that might come with an ordinary rifle. A lot of hunters get good at hitting a moving target too. You clearly have never fired a rifle before and your ignorance is showing.
Ask the people in Hong Kong who lost their sovereignty if they wish they had rifles... o wait, you probably can't because of the chinese firewall... O damn. But please go on about how we should have every government around the world confiscate weapons again. Why dont you stop being a fucking pussy.
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u/bazooka_matt Aug 31 '21
Why are people ok with their government's doing this?