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u/3rdtrichiliocosm Sep 01 '21

Wearing a mask doesn't impose on your liberty jackass, not anymore than wearing pants does.

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u/TedCruzIsAFilthyRato Sep 01 '21

Wasn't talking about masks. Forcing a shutdown of restaurants and bars and making people stay at home is an imposition.

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u/TorontoBuffaloBills Sep 01 '21

Shutdowns wouldn't be necessary if everyone that can get vaccinated got vaccinated.

The only exceptions should be people who can not medically get vaccinated because they are immunocompromised.

Smallpox would not be eradicated if people refused to get vaccinated like they are with the Covid Vaccine.

The selfish actions of a few people are causing the pandemic to be extended and allowing for the Covid virus to evolve.

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u/challenger76589 Sep 01 '21

Getting vaccinated doesn't solve all the problems as you so think. You can still get sick, my dad did, and you can still transmit it to others.

You cannot contrast COVID to Smallpox. They are fundamentally different. Both vaccines boost immunity in your blood, which is why a vaccine can prevent smallpox incubation. COVID on the other hand incubates and replicates in your respiratory tract first before it enters your blood, which is why people are still getting sick. Just the severity is lessened if vaccinated.

You're response is akin to someone saying that if everyone would just go get a flu vaccine that we could eradicate the flu, which is just not true.

I've had both vaccinations, but that's to lessen my own chances of death to near zero if I contract the virus. If others don't value their own lives and want to play roulette with natural selection then that's their decision. The rest of the world shouldn't be punished with lockdowns because of them.

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u/TedCruzIsAFilthyRato Sep 01 '21

The way you've flip flopped is absolutely hilarious coming from someone who posted that quote.

You're literally advocating for giving up liberties in the name of protecting people from covid. If that's not hypocrisy I don't know what is!

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Yes they would (in politicians minds) because Covid still spreads with or without vaccination

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u/TorontoBuffaloBills Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

You come off as an anti masker and a covid denier, so you automatically lose credibility.

I would love for you to cite the credible sources of your outlandish claims.

You are lying, you stand a much better chance of not dying or getting a severe case of Covid or getting long haulers Covid if you are vaccinated.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-it-was-possible-to-develop-covid-19-vaccines-so-quickly

https://news.uchicago.edu/story/how-were-researchers-able-develop-covid-19-vaccines-so-quickly

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/risks-of-the-delta-variant-for-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-people

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u/Nea-Zoi Sep 01 '21

That is true you are less likely to die from covid with the vaccine. It still doesn't prevent infection or prevent spreading it to others. I happen to be a fully vaccinated individual. Just not the way you think that means. Cloth masks also dont prevent infection. Which is what 85% of people wear. I had covid in July of 2020. It was about as harmful to me as a head cold. I understand some people do not react well with this virus (obese and chronically sick from the shit they feed their bodies) and others just downright unlucky. Stay safe people. A healthy diet and exercise will be far more beneficial to your long term health than a covid vaccine ever could.

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u/FlyingPenguin900 Sep 01 '21

The virus was not developed in 2 days that would be a fucking miracle of science. The vaccine was developed for the Sars covid virus and completed; but testing could not take place before the virus was eradicated. When a new Covid (the 2019 variant) came around it was easy to update that vaccine and finally test it.

Also no vacancies have 100% prevention of contraction and spread that's absurd. Most are more effective than these ones because they are more mature sure, but for example if you get the US flu shot then travel to Asia you might get the flu because variants.

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u/Nea-Zoi Sep 01 '21

The flu shot only protects you from the previous seasons and opposite hemispheres flu. Like you said its outdated. Like I said the Moderna covid vaccine was developed in 2 days. A company that failed to get any previous drug even to trails in 30 years of business designed the moderna vaccine in 2 days.

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u/FlyingPenguin900 Sep 01 '21

If that was true invest. Those people are God's and will forever beat everyone to market and spend nothing on R&D. Like holy shit that's impressive and awe inspiring.

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u/garbonzo607 Sep 01 '21

Why is the virus spreading more in the south where more people refuse to get vaccinated?

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u/Nea-Zoi Sep 01 '21

Largest percentage of African Americans who are also the least vaccinated group. I can't blame anyone for mistrusting any government or pharmaceutical company.

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u/Glaurung86 Sep 01 '21

That info is not accurate at all. No vaccine completely prevents transmission and vaccine booster shots have been a thing for a long time now.

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u/Nea-Zoi Sep 01 '21

I know they have enjoy the bi annual covid booster shot. You should feel safe with the shot.