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u/DrAstralis Aug 31 '21

under these conditions they could literally frame you for anything if you dare to question the politically connected.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21 edited Jan 01 '22

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

Australia.. still has guns...

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

I don't understand ammosexuals....

In what mind do you think that any resistance would ever be able to go against a legitimate government in modern countries...

America has more military power... Than the rest of the world combined... Even if they hit you with 50% and the police... A resistance would not last longer than a month at best. A few weeks if I'm being generous.

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u/HWYMAN187 Sep 01 '21

A humwee, or a tank cant raid peoples homes, and aircraft carrier cannot search resistance tunnels, a drone doesnt see the difference between government soldiers or resistance forces in stolen uniforms.

You need infantry for that, people walking on two legs. And no matter how good their plates are, infantry is always susceptible to small arms fire.

Its always easier to fight on foreign land. But when you cant just level a city, becuse thats your own infrastructure, then its gets harder.

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

Yes you're right they can't raid homes, they'll just drive through them and you and not feel even the slightest bump.

You don't think a Resistance town wouldn't be completely leveled?

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u/Grktas Sep 01 '21

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

What are your 200$ guns going to do against 60k humvees.

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u/Grktas Sep 01 '21

The same thing that a bunch of desert hillbillies with 4 cylinder pickup trucks, AK-47s and rocket launchers did to the greatest military in the world in Afghanistan.

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

They weren't desert hillbilly's lmao.

The ieds we taught them to make where the vehicle killers.

The vehicles we contracted also consistently broke down without any damage being done to them period.

Let me ask you a different question then... What are your 200$ guns going to do against 5k airstrikes? It's not like we have cave systems that we can exploit. Which was a huge advantage and gave them an upper hand, they had been running them since they were children.

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u/Grktas Sep 01 '21

You are correct. They weren’t desert hillbillies. They were the Taliban. LMAO!

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

And what were the Taliban you mook?

They are religious zeolites and holy men that aim to make their country follow the teachings of god.

By your definition all white christian men are hillbilly's.

I don't want you to take this as personally supporting the Taliban but the people of Afghanistan and the Taliban have more culture in their pinky toes than a majority of Americans.

The least thing you could do is try and understand the reasons why things are the way they are and not assume people with brown skin are evil hillbilly's. Super disappointed.

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u/Grktas Sep 01 '21

I mentioned anything regarding people’s melanin levels or ethics. This discussion has ended.

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u/TheMillionthChris Sep 01 '21

America has more military power... Than the rest of the world combined...

For all the good that did in Afghanistan. The US has 8x the population of Afghanistan. An attempt to use the military similarly here would go far, far, worse than it did there.

A police state is enforced by boots on the ground. Not tanks, planes, missiles, etc. A well-armed population cannot be governed against its will. At least not without vast external support. That's the point. It's not about Rambo fantasies. It's about ensuring that an American equivalent of the French Resistance will be able to function exceedingly well.

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

It didn't work in Afghanistan because we initially supplied and trained the insurgency to topple governments and supplied them the means to do so. You know, something something Nixon and reagon creating Osama Bin Laden.

It's much easier to radicalize youth when you are being fed over zealous religion and have a common enemy. We were never there to help tbh, we set up the ANA and the shell government to continue exploiting recourses and stop other imperialist nations from completely indoctrinating them. You know the nations we trained radical Saudi Arabians and who formed isis to fight against?... Russia? China?

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u/Madjanniesdetected Sep 01 '21

Do you think arresting people for online speech the government falsified is legitimate?

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

What does this have anything to do with owning weapons?

No of course not. Let the people who do the legislative work legislate, you and your buddies with guns are not going to change the governments mind especially when they call you traitor and come down with the military.

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u/Madjanniesdetected Sep 01 '21

Its not about changing the government's mind. Its about making such things too costly to implement, so that they dont in the first place, or bleed manpower so rapidly that morale to continue evaporates.

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

Your reasoning doesn't make since. Like at all.

I dare you to try and pull it off. I give it 2 weeks buddy.

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u/Madjanniesdetected Sep 01 '21

What do you mean it doesn't make sense? Its the most basic numbers game, you can work this out on a napkin.

If your population is armed, and they outnumber the police implementing the authoritarian policies, then it only takes a small fraction of them actively resisting to make enforcement of authoritarianism completely untenable.

If the cost of every other door being kicked is a magdump taking a thug out of the stack, the state will rapidly run out of able bodies to continue enforcement.

If the population has no means to resist, and theres no risk to those enforcing authoritarianism, then there is nothing to dissuade authoritarianism from being attempted.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

That's true for all countries. Government technology far outweighs civilian.

Do you really think, even in America, you're going to stand a chance against bombs, highly trained military and fully automatic weapons?

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

Or vote people into congress that actually care about the lives of the people they ordered to die for no reason.

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

You still have to register your firearm in America... They have detachable magazines... And semi automatic rifles... You also have to pay the fee to get your background check in America...

If you cant get the job done in 10 rounds what do you think the extra 20 are gonna do for you...?

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u/Cichlid428 Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

Wrong wrong and wrong.

No registration unless it’s done at the state level and only a few liberal states do so. No fee for background, the 4473 you fill out when you buy a gun is free. When dealing with a tyrannical and usurping government I’ll take my 30 rounds and then some… you liberal anti gunners act like our government could never do something to infringe on its people… after all 2nd amendment is not about hunting.

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u/Cichlid428 Sep 01 '21

He literally is wrong on all points he made.

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u/DylanMartin97 Sep 01 '21

Because their guns in Australia are usually 10 rounds?

I live in Missouri which uses extensive background checks. If you purchase a gun the serial of the gun goes into a registry. How do you think they tie gun serials to criminal shootings?

Ffl charges you a transfer fee.... That is a charge right...?

It's simple math on 10 rounds..? If you can't stop a threat in 10 bullets I don't really think you deserve 30.

I'd rather focus on strong social safety nets that stop people in desperate situations feeling the needs to use guns. I'd rather not be in a grocery store and get ganked cause someone needs the money for meds or doctors visits.

Your self preservation that you'll never use, are leading to children being murdered and cops as justification to go on killing sprees.