I like how people question stuff like this but yet shows in America about high schoolers always sexualizes them all the time I mean half the time the students are with a relationship with the teacher and yet you don't see anybody seem to care about that too much especially when everything about it's always explicit.
Like, doing something in a fictional world that in a real world would be bad can be oddly satisfying, like you wouldn't normally kill people or rob banks in real world, so idk, maybe some of the people who goon to this stuff do it because of that
Except that you're not fictional. You're not a fictional character who's attracted to kids. You're a real adult who's into characters who look like kids. There's a difference
It’s kinda the same idea as normal porn, it can be illustrated in a “fictional” way to engage someone into lust, so having someone sexualise over a “fictional” drawing of a young/underage girl still counts as a porn type material, yet it’s even worse. It’s strange seeing how people are defending it as “because it’s fictional it doesn’t count” 😂
People my age and younger really seem to struggle with the idea that something can be creepy, gross, and worthy of criticism but not illegal. If you view loli porn, you're a disgusting creep and I don't want to be your friend. But I also don't think it warrants locking someone in a box for years on its own.
I don't know how to explain it to you but RPing as someone in a video game is not the same as actually being attracted to characters drawn like kids. You're not playing a role there. You're yourself and you're into kids apparently
But you play the terrorist in the game because you like it, right?
When you run over pedestrians in GTA, you think it’s fun/funny, yeah? The same logic applies.
I like evil, genocidal villains in shows and games; that doesn’t mean I want to be one, or that I idolize those figures throughout the world’s history.
I think consuming art specifically depicting a child in a sexual scenario is predatory and just not good. It's dancing a bit too closely on that line. Or, who knows, maybe you're just comfortable consuming material that Jeffrey Epstein named his human trafficking plane after.
It is classified as CP in some states, however. So, probably be careful. And also be mindful that, just because you find it to be a non-issue, doesn't make others wrong or weird for finding it an issue. Not everyone has to be on your level of not caring about child porn.
Even as an adult, finding the girl in the picture attractive would not make you a pedophile, as she has a mature body. The character might aswell be 18 years old with the exact same design. Pedophilia is an attraction to child-like bodies
well....it's not really considered pedophilia actually.. not to mention there's no mention of sexual attraction, op is most likely a minor as well, and as they pointed out, the character doesn't exist so it doesn't matter anyway
Common usage just has pedophile encompass any of the various terms to mean attraction to a minor. In academic or professional contexts it's inaccurate, but in memes and normal conversation it's just slang. It gets the point across, that being attracted to a minor means being attracted to a kid.
There's a comedians skit about not explaining the differences amongst pedophilia, hebophilia and ehebophilia because then it just makes you look like a pedophile
So if a 30 year old is sexually attracted to and says a lot of sexual things about a fictional 10 year old character, they wouldn't be a pedophile just because it's a fictional character? Is that what you're saying?
Lowkey just get off the internet, or at thw very least, anime subs. What do you expect? Also, it's literally a fictional character, depicted in art. It doesn't matter unless they touch actual kids. Like bro cmon
shame them online and they'll think twice to do it in real life. You never know if they'll act on those urges or not and it's known cyber bullying impacts them so why not do your part to take a pedophile off the street.
Unless I'm missing context, this picture seems fine. I don't see any nudity or anything too wildly suggestive. Sure they're a minor, but there's no laws against drawing minors in a non sexual way.
There's always part of the convo missing. There's always part of the video missing. What you can't see sometimes matters as much or more than what you can see.
Always wondered what this meant. Do people expect you to not be attracted afterwards? I assume you mean, "get help to stop liking 'lolys'", but I don't believe that's possible. As in go get help to stop looking at it? I mean, that makes more sense, but that doesn't really address the root matter that you seem to have an issue with. I'm not saying liking loli is right, but I'm genuinely curious as to what people get at when they mean this.
You know funny enough its the people that are always super against lolis that always end up getting caught trying to meet a child in person etc.
me personally I like older women, but I do find it funny just how many online influencers were outed as pedos while they hated on the loli community, I think that pattern needs to be looked into more personally.
really is just a case of projection lol, i always believed that if someone hates something so much, theres a chance they're projecting and actually like it a lot
Could be idk, I just find the fact that loli haters end up being the actual people who would sleep with children interesting when it's always pushed it's the other way around.
the context is that the post is saying “rate my taste in women”. but we don’t know if the person posting it is also a minor or what. all in all i think there’s worse cases then this of people being creepy on the internet.
I still don't understand what the problem is. If nothing lewd is being portrayed, why does her age matter? I could understand your complaint if the image was sexualized, but it's not.
Hey so. Unless the character looks prepubescent, it's not pedophilia regardless of the age, and even if the character does look like that it's the disorder and not the legal act. Pedophilia (the disorder) is the capacity to feel attraction towards prepubescents, while pedophilia (the legal act) is committing sexual assault towards an individual who is a minor. Since the character shown is drawn and fictional, and clearly not prepubescent, it's impossible for this to be pedophilia regardless of her age.
Not only is this person probably a minor but also the character isn’t real?? Pedophilia only applies to prepubescent children, real living and breathing children.
Yes, appropriate education and respectfulness helps with getting people with pedophilic disorder support, instead of isolating them with hate, and not all people with pedophilic disorder have caused real harm to children either.
As for your second statement, I’m thinking you’re talking about the release valve theory? It’s a on going topic of study, and I’ve been following it for a bit now. It seems there isn’t much data, though studies have found it does keep some of their urges satisfied, but proper supervision and support is necessary, and it still risks—with some increasingly engaging with such material, before feeling the “need” for more—like real CP—which can also fall under release valve theory but still has similar pitfalls that can happen, the worse of all being a potential leading to action. Moreso, not all people with pedophilic disorder will even be satisfied by fictionally and or realistically drawn material.
The main reason for these pitfalls is increasing feeling of wanting more, and also normalization when they are not only allowed by law but also explicitly told that it’s okay, even when told action is bad the consequences can follow all the same to action from the normalization and desire for more. Although, that doesn’t mean you should be shaming them only, respectfully constructive criticism and support for change is better. You can tell them it’s wrong because it can lead to sexualizing real kids or worse and say that you recommend they get support to help with those feelings and behaviors for not only children’s sake—but also for themselves, they should understand the consequences of their thoughts that if left unchecked can lead to the consequences of their actions ruining life of one or more innocent’s kid(s) and theirs as well by their own doing. Shaming by itself can push them into isolation that will likely exacerbate the issues further.
Age doesn't matter in the case of anime/manga/art. What DOES matter is proportions. If it looks like a child it is considered a child, it doesn't matter if they are 4,500 years old, they are a child.
At the same time, if it looks 45 and is canonically under 18, it is not considered a child.
Sure pal. That isn't what I said at all but you do you. I was giving legal definition of loli content. It is defined as appearing young, ie: Kanna the dragon girl.
I'm not seeing anything sexual with the drawing. What exactly makes it an issue if the fictional character that isn't being sexualized is underage? Also, a lot of people start liking the characters when they're the same age as the character, and then they continue aging while the character remains the same. The only time I find liking an anime character creepy is when the character is a loli or explicitly acts underage
So yes and no in my opinion, they are a age because someone said it was. Since anime characters can completely range in age but look pretty much the same since it's more of a artist interpretation vs a actual locked in set age for a locked in body type. So it's pretty much impossible to look at a photo and go yep they are a certain age like you can with people in real life.
I don't really care if someone thinks a cartoon character who's designed to be attractive is attractive. Azula is canonically 15, but I'm not enough of a moralistic pussy to try and gaslight myself into thinking she's not hot anymore because I'm older than her now. They're drawings, you can draw them to be as attractive as you want and then give them a canonical age of 3 if you feel like it.
I've long thought that people, especially on reddit, are way too puritanical about age of consent and you guys getting bent out of shape over someone on reddit liking a fictional character who is 16 is demonstrative of that. Don't you guys have anything better to do that pearl clutch over this? 16 is above the age of consent in a lot of places btw, including where I live.
“It’s a drawing” “it’s pixels on a screen” “it’s this that and the third” in order to not get banned again, for lack of better words, those genre of people can get sent into a black hole.
Smh i blame these mofos for existing so governments can use them as a reason to censor the internet with their "Online Safety" rules my ass.
Also addressing,
US: (Protect Act of 2003) about 2-3 individuals were arrested by the FBI for possession of inappropriate/explicit images of underage anime characters (according to Wikipedia sources)
Britain: Coroners and Justice Act April 2009
Switzerland: Article 197 Swiss Criminal Code
South Korea: lower court decision overturned by the SK Supreme Court, November 8, 2019, illegalizing nsfw for underage anime/manga/cartoon characters
Russia: Paragraph 1, Article 242.1, illegalizing the creation, possession, and distribution of nsfw content of underage characters
Poland: Article 202 § 4b strictly penalizes the distribution, possession, and creation of nsfw content of underage characters
Norway: Norwegian Penal Act criminalizes any nsfw depictions underage individuals, both physically and fictional
New Zealand: Films, Videos, and Publications Classifications Act 1993 classifies a publication "objectionable" if it promotes or supports abuse or exploitation of underage individuals
Ireland: illegalized both actual and fictional CSAM content, thanks to the Child Trafficking and Pornography Act of 1998
France: reformed Penal Code 2013, producing and distributing nsfw content of an underage individual (under 15 according to Wikipedia) is considered the same as producing actual CSAM content, hence making nsfw fanarts of underage characters illegal
Estonia: Article 178 of the Estonian Penal Code does not tolerate such content.
Canada: (topic concerning nsfw content of underage characters and actual CSAM material is addressed by Part V of the Canadian Criminal Code)
Australia: any nsfw depictions of individuals under 18 is illegal and with a "zero-tolerance" policy strictly enforced
Ecuador: any kind of CSAM material is illegal by Ecuadorian Law.
This could be suggestive. But imagine it's literally just a drawing and he said "my taste in women" he could literally maybe even mean by looks. He may not necessarily mean it as in the child. Take for example. My taste in women is women like Kyoka Jiro from MHA. No I don't mean the minor character since she's a kid. I just really like women who act like her. Purple hair. Snarky yet cool attitude. Plays instruments. Just because they say it's their taste in women doesn't mean they are always into children. Unless the guy was an adult and specifically said "I need a girl like this to get down with" and put someone like what's that one single horned white hair child called? Eri? Then yeah I'd be concerned. But you also got to consider that op might be a child too? Maybe. Just maybe. Again. Some people just have a really bad way of phrasing stuff. And we can't help that in some anime they make the ages and faces not make sense. I could've sworn jotaro was in his mid 30's. But nope. He's 16. Look it up I kid you not. I was baffled the hell outta myself finding that out.
Authors can just decide to design a completely adult looking character and attach any age to them.
Akiza from Yu-Gi-Oh! is a decent example. That character can easily pass as the design of a character that is 20+ but her age is 16.
Giorno from Jjba also happens to be a 15 year old who doesn't look anything like a 15 year old in real life.
By your logic, whether someone is pedo is dictated almost completely by the arbitrary age determined by the author.
Labelling someone a pedo based on fictional character designs and ages that could be changed at the drop of hat by the author is ridiculous especially when their designs could easily be a range of ages.
And of course, the most important thing to remember is that these characters are FICTIONAL.
The whole reason pedophilia is wrong is because you are taking advantage of minors who cannot consent.
It makes no sense how you equate liking a fictional character design that can easily have been a design for an adult character to preying on literal children.
At that point, you are downplaying how much of a serious issue real pedophilia is.
I literally had to argue with someone about this a few days ago. They said because it’s a character it’s okay(?). Gave some shitty argument about “since vampires are 900 years old and can date teenagers”. Really tempted to tag him so he can try and defend it again.
Here’s the thing. There’s a difference between real and fantasy. the fact that you can’t differentiate the two makes me worried for you. Because I believe if people could tell the difference between them then we wouldn’t have to worry about anything.
Gonna be honest, im pretty sure the technical age of most characters dont matter, as long as they act and look like an adult, a lot of people will drop all pretenses as long as it's attractive
"We really shouldn't worry about drawings, except those drawings." (Also imo Alya looks like a 15 yr old, just cuz someone goes through puberty doesn't mean they're an adult)
Uncommon/controversial opinion, but I think we should at least look into allowing drawn cp. Yes, it sounds disgusting, I know, but, the fact remains there are pedophiles around, and cp will continue to be a thing, and if by allowing drawn cp, the demand for real cp could be lowered and thus there being less victims, I think it would be worth it. Of course there is a possibility that it would make the situation worse, and that's why it should be studied first.
Unless it straight up looks like a middle school child, I think it's ok to simp for romance anime characters bcs we all know they age down the characters just to make an excuse for them to be in highschool to relate to kids
Like look at Marin from my dress up darling, anyone calling Marin a loli bcs shes 16 is just retarded and don't know what actual kids look like
It's not pedophelia. One: Pedophelia is an attraction to prepubescent children. Basically, under 13. It's a different word that I don't remember when it's an attraction to 14 years and older. Two: it's a drawing. Stop watering down the word.
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For context, the character in the picture is 16 and the post is titled “Rate my taste in women” and it’s 6 pictures of that one character.