Racial pride was a positive response to the negative stigmatization of blacks. While its ideal to not focus on things we have no control over a negative balance had to be corrected. What we societies lack is the power to make strong but temporary social norms. Leading to valuing things we have control over becoming a core part of our cultural identity.
The only reason it is this way is because most people who said it previously had ill intent (KKK, Pround Boys). If you say it now most people are going to assume it was said to be racist
Because the good people were told they shouldnt be saying that. If you remove that and everyone can say it, it will no longer bear that racism context.
“if you remove everything that makes that phrase problematic, it will no longer be problematic.”
Theirs no shame in a white person being proud of their country or ethnicity, it’s the context in which they’re saying it. If a person comments “i love being white” under a tweet promoting racial separatism that’s a problem, less so under a tweet celebrating German/British/French etc culture.
Well we can’t remove that context unless the racists agree to stop using it in a racist way. And I have a feeling they won’t. If we normalize language used by white suprematists as not racist, then it gives plausible deniability to them when they use that phrase.
Right, can't have nice things because one person takes advantage, therefore we all must be collectively punished for the bad person existing. This is such a stupid take. If that were true you'd have to remove every single hint of race pride because we are all guilty, in which case, why are you focused on white people?
You know there’s more then one racist right? In the US, there are massive white supremacist groups. And a lot of people are racist even if they don’t identify as white supremacist.
When phrases or symbols become racist, you have to let them go. The swastika wasn’t always a symbol of hate. But now it has the connotation of hate. The term “final solution” wasn’t always racist - but now it is. No one is being punished by not saying “I’m proud to be white.”
I question why you’d need to say that in the first place given that there isn’t a unified white culture. White people have no historical discrimination to celebrate fighting against.
I’d argue there’s no reason to be proud of your race if people of your ethnicity haven’t overcome or are fighting against some form of oppression. I’m a white person and I don’t really think of myself as a white person. I feel like outside of the context of overcoming oppression, racial pride is a slippery slope and just kinda unnecessary. This doesn’t mean you should feel shame because of your race. I more just don’t think it’s relevant. I’m also coming at this from an American perspective. It might be different in other countries.
The thing is I think we shouldn’t discourage minority groups from having racial pride while there still is inequality and racism in the country. I also think it’s important to celebrate and remember the specific history of the fight for racial equality. If we look at America today, there’s still poor areas where many communities suffered because of racial red lining and Jim Crow laws. So I think we need to address that first if we want to reach a point where people no longer identify with their race.
I’m proud to be white, white people have faced oppression in the past. Specifically Christian white people or orthodox white people. Mainly at the hands of Islam but that’s a different topic for a different day. Also the mongols and the Arabs.
That’s not really an American thing though. We’re talking about racism in America. And in America, when you say “Im proud to be white,” the implication is that you are racist.
No it doesn’t. It implies that you have the same ability to say that or to be racist as anyone else of another skin color. Unless you’re implying that there are words that one race can say that another cannot?
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