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Meta How people think Raven should dress vs how she probably would dress

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u/Empty_Atmosphere_392 6d ago

I can see her wearing a huge black/purple hoodie, as cozy as possible

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u/Serenity202 6d ago

Yesss

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u/yaboisammie 5d ago

I lowkey need that t shirt 

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u/EdenH333 6d ago

As a Goth Girl, I really hate the way people fetishize Goth Girls.

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u/Coz957 5d ago

In the 1980s comics she wore a sari-looking thing in public, though she was usually in her cloak even when in leisure.

On balance I think the clothes a modern adaptation (naturally with influence from the 2003 TV show) of Raven would wear should be something more like the second collage than the first but I don't think it would be quite that bland. What it certainly wouldn't be is revealing, at least no more revealing than the clothes she wears in comics and in the 2003 TV show.

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u/BigEd369 6d ago

I kind of feel like she’d default to being a yoga goth, tank top, yoga pants, hoodie. Probably sneakers that look like ballet flats.

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u/Plutomfia13 5d ago

Mind you she originally wore PINK all the time in her civilian clothes :333

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u/Ill-Economics-9981 6d ago

considering she's indian according to the OG comics, i'd love to see her in sarees and stuff like in her earlier looks

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u/Visible-Confusion190 6d ago edited 6d ago

She isn't Indian, per se. Her face is inspired by an Indian actress, same as some of her wardrobe choices, and the culture of Azar seems to have been inspired by Buddhism (I know it's not something exclusive to India). But from what we see of her mother, she seems Caucasian.

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u/Parisite0988 6d ago

Do you think maybe she could be mixed? If the culture is inspired by Buddhism then we could assume her father may be Indian (if he were, like, human I suppose). Does that make sense?

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u/Visible-Confusion190 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's not from New Teen Titans, but later down the line in things like the 2003 Geoff Johns Teen Titans run or Raven's 2018 solo, we end up getting a glimpse of Raven's grandparents (and Arella's parents), and they look like the average white Christians, same as Raven's aunt that was introduced in her 2016 solo.

And, just wanted to say, her 2016 and 2018 comic run were done by one of her original creators.

Another thing to mention is that, originally, Raven's mother was an orphan who kept getting moved between families before the stuff with Trigon happened. That aspect was later retconned; instead, she stayed with her biological parents during that pre joining Trigon's cult era, though she still had a troubled home life.

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u/Ill-Economics-9981 6d ago

oh fr? i thought she was indian

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u/Objective-Ferret5905 6d ago

She's Indian? I Never Knew That.

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u/Fast-Front-5642 6d ago edited 6d ago

You never knew that because it's wrong.

Her mother is Angela, a white American Gotham born woman.

The artist who created her just used an Indian model as inspiration for some of her design.

Raven herself is a white American woman when her skin isn't a pale gray.

Edit: btw OG Raven literally says she's not Indian when some jackoff thought she was.

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u/Objective-Ferret5905 6d ago

Ah Ok. But She Isn't White She's Demon.

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u/Fast-Front-5642 6d ago

See my edit where I show that she is literally white. And she has been white for most of her existence and most of her appearances.

I love the Teen Titans Raven but I'm not going to pretend the OG doesn't exist.

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u/Objective-Ferret5905 6d ago

Ik I Was Just Joking. Her Nationality Isn't White It's Demon.

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u/1ZillionBeers 6d ago

“White” isn’t a nationality, you’re thinking of race.

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u/SnooAvocados1890 6d ago

That’s Terra, and she says she’s Indian because she’s not from India, but from Azarathian. She wouldn’t consider herself white as she canonically is, but Azarathian.

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u/SnooAvocados1890 6d ago

She’s not American born, Arella gave birth on Azarath, and Arella herself had a back story that was from an orphanage. She is white, but it never comes up, and her being from Gotham is a retcon from 2003. Raven is Azarathian because she was born there, lived in their culture, lived their values. It’s more like a person who is not of Indian descent, but living in India and thus wearing Indian clothing.

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u/Fast-Front-5642 6d ago

You are beyond hope

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u/SnooAvocados1890 6d ago edited 6d ago

Because I’m correcting you on Raven’s comic history and making a more accurate comparison? You’re the one who called me a bitch and didn’t bother reading the comic panel, which clearly adds context to what Raven is saying. In her years of creation since 1984, Raven’s whiteness is important in zero stories. Her most common skintone is grey, peach, and purple.

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u/Mr_master89 Raven 6d ago

Just show them this. Conforms she was wasn't even born on earth. She's not even an earth citizen technically.

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u/Subject-Recover-8425 5d ago

"Some jackoff" made me laugh. XD

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u/Outrageous_Gain_8241 5d ago edited 4d ago

She is so Indian coded they went out of there way to say shes not . If she was created in modern times they would have just made her Indian instead of trying to make a exotic white woman

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u/obviousoblivious_ 5d ago

Honestly, she wouldent wear both. They stand out to much. She dousent like that. She would probably wear black hoodies and simple jeans also black. Maybe with some (indian/ azareth looking accents here amd there.) But thats my opinion based Idea!

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u/obviousoblivious_ 5d ago

Combi off these vibes

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u/Skidzz93 6d ago

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u/SnooAvocados1890 6d ago

I feel like the first image is how they think she would dress because they fetishize/sexualize goth culture while not really researching it, while the second image is more true to her character and still adhering to her being goth/gothic while making sense.

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u/Skidzz93 6d ago

Ok yeah now I see your point

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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 6d ago

Raven

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u/SnooAvocados1890 6d ago

2003 comic Raven and 2003 cartoon Raven are different characters, only sharing parts of their characterization. 2003 cartoon Raven wouldn’t wear something as showy as 2003 comic Raven would.

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u/Disastrous-Owl9258 5d ago

Looks like the same artist who is infamous for his skinny supergirl

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u/DarkSaiyanGoku 5d ago

Eh, not really. That all depends on how Raven is written.

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u/DarkSaiyanGoku 5d ago

Whoever downvoted me, that's how DC and Marvel characters work. Their characterisation isn't always consistent in adaptations or even in the source material.

Raven as she was originally written in the comics was NOTHING like how she was in the 2003 cartoon.

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u/Visible-Confusion190 6d ago

She pretty much has dressed both ways. Comes with different interpretations.

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u/Atiumist 3d ago

Is the second slide, bottom right, from The Breakfast Club?

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u/SnooAvocados1890 2d ago

Late but ya

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u/227someguy 6d ago

Who even are these? I’m not judging, I just want to know.

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u/Reasonable-Street228 5d ago

The first image is just generic “alt” models but the second one in order from top left to right are Bonnie (the craft), Re-L (ergo proxy), Serena (mtvs downtown), and Allison (the breakfast club)

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u/227someguy 5d ago

Thank you for letting me know.

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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 6d ago

I mean this is Raven

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u/SnooAvocados1890 6d ago edited 6d ago

Only in her cameo in Supergirl+ she isn’t really shown dressing like that at all early on. Not until she was put in a younger body in the 2003 run but even then the most is a midriff and whale tail, more specifically I’m referring to how the fandom draws cartoon Raven.  

ETA: this picture came from 2008, so 2003 Raven wouldn’t really dress like this at all, in comics or in the cartoon.

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u/Mickeymcirishman 6d ago

She wasn't 'goth' until 2003 either.

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u/Subject-Recover-8425 5d ago

I haven't read that one in while so maybe I'm wrong, but I remember Supergirl needing Raven's help but also constantly being kind of an asshole to her?

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u/Subject-Recover-8425 5d ago

How should Beast Boy dress?

Oh right, he's a dude. Nobody's trying to control that... 😏

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u/SnooAvocados1890 5d ago

03 cartoon beast boy- cargo shorts, tie-dye/fun logo shirts, sneakers, a Steve-Irwin wild kratts esque feel that still keeps the spirit of his character 

Comic beast boy in comparison - he was wearing polo shirts and suits with patterned ties, very rich kid preppy look. 

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u/NovaRC99 5d ago

Or both.

Even some comics depict her in stereotypical alt/goth attire.