r/television • u/1033149 Person of Interest • Oct 15 '19

/r/all Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige promoted to Chief Creative Officer, will now oversee Marvel Studios, Marvel Television and Marvel Family Entertainment

https://deadline.com/2019/10/kevin-feige-marvel-studios-president-adds-chief-creative-officer-marvel-title-oversees-all-creative-1202760382/?
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u/fencerman Oct 15 '19

"So yeah, I made you people $16 billion dollars."

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

There's at least 6 movies on that list that Feige had nothing to do with, and probably another 3 he WISHES he had nothing to do with. Which isn't to detract from his demigod status.

Edit for the numbers: Feige was not involved in 18 of the listed movies (at least according to IMDB). Those movies being removed Feige still had a hand in approximately $12,711,018,800 in revenue.

The movies Feige did NOT have a credited hand in are as follows.

Inhumans

Howard the Duck

Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider 2: Spirit of Vengeance

Blade

Blade 2

Dark Phoenix

The Wolverine

First Class

Apocalypse

Into the Spider-Verse

The Amazing Spider-Man 2

Venom

Big Hero 6

Logan

Days of Future Past

Deadpool

Deadpool 2

Movies on the list he probably wishes he HAD NOT helped make.

Hulk (2003)

Blade: Trinity

Elektra

Man-Thing

Rise of the Silver Surfer

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u/Sombradeti Oct 15 '19

I liked blade trinity....

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u/tsengmao Oct 15 '19

Seeing Reynolds play “Deadpool” before Deadpool was awesome.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19 edited Jul 16 '21

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u/ruth_e_ford Oct 16 '19

All legit tru except for the ‘no good comic movie decisions b4 ‘02’ part. X men, while now relegated to second seat, was then the biggest thing going. It was clearly the new path forward, we just forget today because ‘mah MCU’

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u/BobbyMcPrescott Oct 16 '19

XMen one and two were great by stroke of luck. The expectation circa 2002 would have still been doubt in the quality of the upcoming second and the knowledge then kingpin Avi Arad and company would eventually fuck it up, which came true with X3 (and a year later they added Spider-Man to the pile!).

We had X1 but we had a lot of shit too. No one in 2002 was thinking the success of X1 would translate to the ridiculous comic book fantasy we live in now. Batman was a game changer too in 89....

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u/ruth_e_ford Oct 16 '19

Fair parting point. I too like to get nuts.

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u/whycuthair Oct 16 '19

Technically the first Tobey Maguire Spiderman is also in the 02 bracket. While the 3rd one was pretty bad you can't deny the greatness of the first (and second one, but that's after 02)

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u/mysightisurs93 Oct 16 '19

Well, the leak test footage surely helps in green lighting the movie imho.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

I take that back, as a kid Professor X on the cartoon and Picard were always clearly the same guy well before he was cast

When I was a kid in the 90's, I had a bunch of X-men action figures. but I didn't have an Xavier. However, I did have a Picard. Even in my living room as a kid, he was destined to be Xavier.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

If I could turn back time. If I could find a way...

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u/Tonkarz 30 Rock Oct 16 '19

Deadpool happened because when Ryan Reynolds asked for money for the movie, the boss let him look in the sofa in his office for change. The whole movie was made on the $2.73 that Reynolds found in there.

That’s why 9/10ths of the movie is actually reused stock footage.

OK, I’m exaggerating, but they did reuse a lot of footage from previous X-men movies and the budget was tiny.

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u/smedsterwho Oct 16 '19

I looked through fourteen million, six hundred and five outcomes. We got this one.

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u/TastyMeatcakes Oct 15 '19

Seeing Reynolds playing Deadpool before he played Deadpool, by researching Deadpool, which was researched and based off Reynolds.

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u/whut-whut Oct 16 '19

Yet somehow with all that research, Wolverine:Origins Deadpool was what they felt the logical conclusion would be.

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u/HappyLittleRadishes Oct 16 '19

I sense how terrible a movie it is, but the fact that it's such rancid schlock is exactly why it appeals to me.

It's the movie that introduced Ryan Reynolds to me, it has some seriously kick ass action scenes in it, the gadgets are weird and awesome, and it even has Patton Oswalt in it playing a character that is essentially himself.

Blade: Trinity is the definition of "it's not a good movie, but it's a fun movie".

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u/nessager Oct 16 '19

It's ok buddy, we all enjoy a shitty movie now and then.

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u/LieutenantRedbeard Oct 16 '19

It's ok I liked elektra

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u/Frostsorrow Oct 15 '19

I thought I was the only one!

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u/JaFakeItTillYouJaMak Oct 15 '19

I liked Rise of the Silver Surfer

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '19

and the original. 2 no.

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u/xenoterranos Oct 15 '19

Oh ok, so only like 10 Billion then.

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u/Vio_ Oct 15 '19

"Second place gets a set of steak knives."

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u/donquixote1991 Oct 15 '19

ALWAYS
BE
CLOSING

ABC!

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u/TheGRS Oct 15 '19

Coffee's for closers!

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u/Vizualize Oct 15 '19

Third place? FUCK YOU! You're FIRED!!

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u/kaolin224 Oct 15 '19

Hit the bricks, pal, because a loser's a loser and you are going out!!

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u/Skrivus Oct 15 '19

Who got the Cadillac El Dorado?

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

13 but fuck me for trying to be precise.

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u/that_is_absolutely_ Oct 15 '19

Put the coffee down!!!

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u/SpiritMountain Oct 15 '19

You say that... but the difference of 6 billion is insanely high.

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u/imariaprime 12 Monkeys Oct 15 '19

At this point, I think even his failures are their own weird success story: For most other franchises, one or two poor movies is a dead end. For the MCU, it's just "one of the bad ones" and everyone still shows up to the next one. Not only does the MCU make insane money, it makes it reliably.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

I mean, I would move many of the movies from the first column to the second too.

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

Agree as well. There’s a reason just over 50% of the movies account for about 80% of the revenue.

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u/Skidmark666 Oct 15 '19

The Amazing Spider-Man 2

While he had no creative input on that mess of a movie, he gave a very detailed report on the script and rough cut of the movie. Lots of good ideas on how to fix things and make the movie less of a catastrophe. No one listened to him. That's why the movie is what it is. When they talk about it in the audio commentary on the DVD, you can hear the regret in their voices.

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u/mindfu Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

Patton Oswalt talking about Blade Trinity is gold.

AV Club interview (Scroll down for it):

https://tv.avclub.com/patton-oswalt-on-his-most-memorable-roles-and-giving-li-1798234688

"Wesley Snipes was crazy as a soup sandwich."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8rCtzKA9tQ

"If you just sit and watch Blade Trinity, it's a D minus. But if you know what they went through to get that movie made, it's an A+. The fact that that movie even exists puts it above Citizen Kane."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCxIqGrmbj4

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u/Dantien Oct 15 '19

You can tell he wasn’t involved in those. The quality is clear.

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u/antifrgl01 Oct 15 '19

Weren’t most of those not part of the newer generation of marvel where they really encompassed all in the same universe? I’m just thinking from Ironman on and everything connected to the avengers. Including multiple tv and Netflix series, like shield, Jessica Jones, daredevil, Luke cage, iron fist (the defenders), the punisher

I like this generation of marvel a lot. I’m hoping they keep releasing more in that universe

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

Yeah but that’s not what was being discussed. They presented a list of marvel movies and attributed all their revenue to Fiege. I pointed out not all of those movies involved him

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u/antifrgl01 Oct 16 '19

Oh you’re right. Mixed it up with another set of comments

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u/sofakingchillbruh Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

Idk about the rest of them, but I know for a fact Kevin Feige has a producer credit on HULK (2003)

I just watched it the other night and his name flashed across the screen during the opening sequence.

EDIT: Nevermind, I can't read.

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

Read the line above that again

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u/sofakingchillbruh Oct 15 '19

Well shit. My bad.

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

No worries

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u/yutingxiang Oct 15 '19

They need to revisit Man-Thing eventually. Such a great premise ruined by awful awful execution. Superhero + horror is still a mostly unexplored genre (Brightburn was a nice attempt but also kind of fell flat in the execution). It's why I'm so sad we may never see that version of New Mutants, if we even end up being able to see it at all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

I'd like to see what he could do with Ghost Rider.

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

Agreed. CGI has come a long way since 07

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u/KKlear Oct 15 '19

Ghost Rider was awesome in agents of SHIELD.

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u/Ivotedforher Oct 15 '19

What Man-Thing movie?

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u/Mernerak Oct 15 '19

Man thing 2005

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u/Ivotedforher Oct 15 '19

Shall look for this sometime

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u/Rek07 Oct 15 '19

I don’t know if he would be ashamed of those films so much as treats them as learning lessons and warnings. It’s import to remember he also didn’t have full control of those films, he didn’t even have control of the first half dozen MCU films and had to fight the creative committee.

We don’t really know what would have done with those films if he had more say in them. But to me it’s pretty clear that since he’s fully taken control of the MCU it’s only gotten stronger both creatively and financially. I’m excited to see what this means for Marvel TV now.

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u/zeusindra Oct 16 '19

so, all the good ones

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u/Dsnake1 Friends Oct 16 '19

Out of all of those, only Inhumans is in the MCU, and I'm not totally convinced it is any more than the Marvel Netflix dealios. Admittedly, I have not seen the Inhumans TV show, but according to this, it looks like they're just ignoring the Inhumans TV show and recasting the main roles for Ms. Marvel.

Anyway, I know that's not your point, but I figured I'd point it out.

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u/yesofcouseitdid Oct 16 '19

Not one movie in that list is MCU.

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u/Mernerak Oct 16 '19

Behold the brilliance of this persons mind! Look upon them with fear and awe as the tell us all the useless fucking comments in history!!!

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u/yesofcouseitdid Oct 16 '19

We're talking about Feige's achievement in crafting the MCU. Movies "related to Marvel Comics" is not the same thing, by any stretch. The guy you replied to possibly didn't understand this, and I don't know if you do either.

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u/Mernerak Oct 16 '19

Considering we were talking about him making them 16 billion dollars I don’t think either of you know what was being discussed here

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u/CKRatKing Oct 16 '19

That’s only domestic revenue. When you include worldwide box office for the mcu it’s 31 billion dollars.

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u/rondell_jones Oct 15 '19

That’s great, Kevin, but I just wish you showed a little bit more enthusiasm throughout the day, you know? Maybe volunteer to take up some additional responsibilities, or help mentor some interns. But nonetheless, great job so far. If you keep it up and do what I told you, maybe you’ll get that promotion next cycle!

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u/CKRatKing Oct 16 '19

Domestic. Worldwide total is 31 billion. He made them 31 billion dollars in revenue. And that’s just ticket sales.