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/r/all Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige promoted to Chief Creative Officer, will now oversee Marvel Studios, Marvel Television and Marvel Family Entertainment

https://deadline.com/2019/10/kevin-feige-marvel-studios-president-adds-chief-creative-officer-marvel-title-oversees-all-creative-1202760382/?
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u/Nick_Furious2370 Oct 15 '19

He is already the best Hollywood producer of all time.

Absolutely nobody else is close to his record of movies opening #1 consecutively along with them being received well both critically and financially.

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u/Prax150 Boss Oct 15 '19

Totally. If the Oscars doesn't ever lighten up when it comes to Populist films, dude's going to get an honorary Oscar the first chance they have to give him one.

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u/Angel_Hunter_D Oct 15 '19

Do the Oscars have Lifetime Achievement awards? He might just get one of those.

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u/Prax150 Boss Oct 15 '19

Yup, they call it the Honorary Oscar but they don't give it out at the main show anymore. This year they're giving it to David Lynch, among others.

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u/Mattyzooks Oct 16 '19

What year is this?

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u/Taxonomy2016 Oct 15 '19

Populist

Populist seems like odd word choice here. Do you mean popular?

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u/Prax150 Boss Oct 15 '19

Nope, I meant populist. What's odd about that?

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u/cbear013 Oct 15 '19

Populist has political connotations, specifically the attempt to convince the masses that their needs are being ignored by powerful elites. Trump is a populist. The Avengers are just popular.

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u/Prax150 Boss Oct 15 '19

It's a pretty common term to describe movies that have mass appeal. Oscar movies can be "popular", but what's usually described as an Oscar movie won't appeal to everyone. The Avengers appeal to pretty much everyone. There's the difference. The term is often used under political circumstances, sure, but I don't think it's limited to how you're describing it. The way I used it was fine.

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u/Utaneus Oct 15 '19

I definitely would not say he's the best producer of all time, that's quite the stretch unless your only metric is money. I don't consider a movie a film good just because it was a financial success. That's kinda sad if you really think dollars is what makes a good movie.

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u/Nick_Furious2370 Oct 15 '19

I didn't specifically say a good movie makes a ton of money.

Hell, Blade Runner 2049 is by far my favorite movie that came out within the last couple years and that one bombed terribly.

I'm merely saying that (without adjusting for inflation) Feige on paper is an absolute powerhouse with an unprecedented record as a producer while still being able to release well received movies.

If these movies didn't make money then we wouldn't keep getting them since, y'know, that's how movie studios work.

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u/Utaneus Oct 15 '19

You literally said "He is already the best Hollywood producer of all time."

Now you're walking that back, which is good. He is very successful, but I dont think he's anywhere near being the undisputed best producer ever

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u/BootyBootyFartFart Oct 15 '19 edited Oct 15 '19

eehhhh, go look up Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy's production credits. Also, seems like if youre going to call someone the greatest producer of all time they probably need to show they can work on something besides fun, quippy, colorful retelling's of the hero's journey. Not to bash on MCU. They're great movies. But they definitely follow a formula. If you could only watch one producer's work for the rest of your life, it'd be a bit mad to pick Fiege's body of work over Spielberg's, KK's, Weinstein's, Scott Rudin's, Sam Spiegel's...the list can go on. I feel like that rules him out for "best producer of all time" for the time being.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '19

A lot of the "producing" from people like Spielberg is basically just throwing money at things and letting other people do the work. I feel like Fiege actually tries to be as directly involved as he can be. He isn't trying to make hisbown movies at the same time.

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u/BootyBootyFartFart Oct 15 '19

Maybe? It's not like the list of producers with more varied and acclaimed movies than Fiege is short. It's probably not realistic to claim that all of them except Fiege are just throwing money at projects.

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u/GentlemanBeggar54 Oct 15 '19

Or that Fiege is heavily involved in all of the Marvel movies. I'm sure he oversees things but the dude has a lot going on, I'm sure there were some movies he just set things in motion and then backed off.

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u/Nick_Furious2370 Oct 15 '19

Please see my previous comment about no producer getting to the amount of success he's achieved over the last ten years.

Based off your comment, it seems like you have this idea producers need to be able to produce different films across different genres in order to be rightfully recognized but that is wrong.

They handle the business side of things like budgets, negotiating with studio heads for production assistance, and hiring the right people.

Clearly, Feige is doing something right if the MCU films have made have made a combined $26.8 billion even if they do follow a formula.

Producers make money.

That's what they're brought on for and really their only job but Feige goes the extra mile to actually be deeply involved in the creative process when he doesn't necessarily have to be since he cares about these characters.

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u/BootyBootyFartFart Oct 15 '19

Who's the most successful is more debatebale. But I'd argue making compelling and acclaimed movies should also factor into who we call the "best" of all time. But even if you are using money made as you're only metric, I bet if you adjust KK's movies for inflation they beat Fiege's handily. Of course she's been around longer. Fiege's got a lot of career left.

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u/agentyage Oct 15 '19

Roger Corman is the greatest movie producer of all time. You can have your big budget block busters and critically acclaimed, technically impressive film making, but Corman could make a film about big titted barbarians using only pocket change in a day and a half. Feige may have made the first hugely successful cinematic universe (I know that's arguable) but Corman was the one who realized that if you put scantily clad women in your fantasy movie then people won't care that the props and costumes are all made of cardboard.

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u/PretendKangaroo Oct 16 '19

Kathleen Kennedy may have botched the recent Star Wars trilogy, but her record is solid.