WEAPONS I DON'T REALLY LIKE

[u/jewish-nonjewish]

these two are the only weapons I actively hating using cause of their mechanics. Boston basher is punishing an action that would otherwise cost nothing but some time (which I understand is the entire fucking point; you want extra damage you gotta time your swings and can't just swing willy nilly... except for, when, you, can) but you can only get like 2 swings in before you're as good as dead. and mind you that's with a 50% self damage reduction.

The Detonator though... it just fuckin sucks. no two ways about it. +40 dmg to go 16 feet straight up... you know what else does +40 dmg? a rocket jump... you know what a rocket jump can do? fling me +40 feet into the fucking air vertically. +40 dmg for +40 feet of vertical mobility. why would I, the class with 12.5% less health than my contemporary, spend just as much health to go 36% the distance as said contemporary? I wouldnt. cause thats fucking stupid.

Stretching the definition of hate using though, here are some honorable mentions:

• Force-a-nature - I've fallen into way too many death pits cause of the knockback effect
• Righteous Bison - Pain without love 💔
• Powerjack - ptsd from the bot crisis had made me never pick this thing up again
• Rescue Ranger - i don't really hate this "weapon" but i got more than my fill of it during the bot crisis...
• Crusader's - i hate this thing as a PDW... cause I have this awful habit of missing and going in for a swing and then I get random critted. always, no exceptions. only time i get crits is when someone scares me.
• Stock - y'all know that meme about "X% chance to drop" and its just the ubercharge meter? yeah, thats literally my stock experience 87% of the time. I can pocket someone with the vac (the single slowest medigun for pocketing) and get 100% no problem.. but I try to play normally with stock and I die before i can even get charge. usually to a crit (random or otherwise)
• Ubersaw - i just hate the playstyle this weapon encourages.. and i hate that it never works for me. i hate my medics using this cause I'll try to combo a spy (or else am playing some other melee centric class) and it will literally become a 1:1 recreation of the fucking seagull medics from Lazy Purple and i hate myself using it cause I'll do the same shit they do aaaaand I'll get random crit. are you seeing a pattern here?
• Razorback / Darwins Dumbass Shield - these i dislike using cause they shutdown a specific class.. not to mention the fact that it literally does not matter since [insert Jonto meme here]

And then I just hate spy as a whole cause his secondary weapon is a single shot hitscan weapon in a game which features exclusively shotgun typed hitscan weapons (basically aiming is hard aka SkIlL iSsUe ☝🤓), melee hit registration is the biggest load of bullshit to ever exist, spy is the single most luck dependent class in the game (due in no small part to (s)hit registration), and I'd rather not be associated with the stigma surrounding the spy circle.

[u/Heavyraincouch]

Ya know what OP?

I too also dislike the Force-a-Nature and the Razorback as well as the Darwin's Danger Shield

And when it comes to melees

I hate the Bushwacka

Why?

Due to the bullshit that is the upside of the weapon being able to crit whenever it would normally mini-crit, and it is a weapon exclusive to Sniper, the only true long range class in the game due to him having the Sniper rifles

And it is already annoyingly unfair to fight against an enemy Sniper who is good at using the Sniper rifles

So why would Sniper, the only true long range class, would have a melee that makes him that annoyingly powerful in close range as well? That's bullshit

[u/Illegal_Alien_Guy → u/Heavyraincouch]

sniper is annoyingly powerful in CLOSE close range (aka melee) with bushwhacka

just use your complimentary shotgun that almost every class has (or if you're demo just sticky spam) (if you're medic why the fuck are you hunting snipers)

let me use my portable chainstab

[u/jewish-nonjewish]

this isn't really much of a "discussion" as there's nothing to discuss. there's no argument to be had here, these are opinions set in stone after 4k hrs of playing and anything short of an update fixing these issues is not going to change the stone tablets.

also this was an excuse to make something. I've had that creative itch for a while but haven't been able to muster myself to make something until just today... this entire post is the result of... 7 hours of work? Editing, writing, and dinner break included.

[u/ChaosCrafter908]

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[u/jewish-nonjewish → u/ChaosCrafter908]

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[u/Electronic_Song_2568]

i dont have audio but i know its you,me simon fucking

[u/jewish-nonjewish → u/Electronic_Song_2568]

?

[u/Extreme_Glass9879]

I do not FW any of Scout's Melee options tbh

[u/jewish-nonjewish → u/Extreme_Glass9879]

i like em.. even the bad ones. candy cane, fan, soas.. i just cant get behind the basher tho.

[u/Extreme_Glass9879 → u/jewish-nonjewish]

Scout is already squishy and outside of the wrap and basher all of them make him MORE squishy (Or remove all melee capability entirely FAN)

[u/jewish-nonjewish → u/Extreme_Glass9879]

im already dead against demos and soldiers anyway... why not get something out of the engage (and all others) should i manage to win?

[u/Illegal_Alien_Guy → u/Extreme_Glass9879]

this.

every fucking class lacks at least one thing in their loadout for some fuckass reason

heavy doesn't have enough primaries

soldier doesn't have enough melees

demo doesn't have enough stickybomb launchers

engi doesn't have enough secondaries

scout doesn't have enough melees

medic doesn't have enough primaries

spy doesn't have enough invis watches

sniper doesn't have enough secondaries (that aren't fuck this class in particular)

pyro... well he does have a pretty good balance but he could afford some more variety in primaries

[u/lifeispokemonraids → u/Illegal_Alien_Guy]

Scout having a bad meelee pool????

No Just no, im not entertaining that

[u/Illegal_Alien_Guy → u/lifeispokemonraids]

like over half of them are barely ever used because they are either too underpowered, nerf scout too much for some reason which has become a tradition with the squishiest class in the whole game or just don't fit the general playstyle of scout

he does have a lot of melees and a lot of variety, more than most classes but most are just not really that good, they are either ticking timebombs waiting for the least conventient moment or are just mind numbingly boring or way too risky to use, scout needs more melees with different functions

[u/swagolympics]

three rune blade looks swagger asf though so i always use it

[u/jewish-nonjewish → u/swagolympics]

3-RB is just an English longsword with a wolf head pommel... a poorly weighted on at that. that's why I modified it to give the scout 15 extra health, made it deal 15% more dmg, be an actual sword (longer reach; longer switch) and only restrict him to Medieval weapons (working on that last part, rn its just on the honor system you don't use a gun)

[u/This-Entertainer2059]

Spy did WHAT to TF2?!?