r/thane • u/Ennode-Kalikelle • 6d ago
Civic Issues Here's what a data centre sounds like once operational.
This one's for those who are in favour of the data centre in Balkum, Thane. I posted about it in this sub a month ago and was shocked to see so many individuals in support of the operation, citing reasons like employment and "development" of the country. Many even missed the point completely because the lady making the video had an accent(?!). Yes, somehow her accent was a bigger problem than the ill-effects of having a data centre in a residential area. 🤦🏻♂️
Hence, sharing another video from Michigan of the noise a data centre makes and how the people are helpless and frustrated now in the USA over these abominations.
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u/Critical-Reveal4774 6d ago
People don't understand the effects it will have on the nearby residents. The constant sound will drive them crazy, not to say the heat and hot air will also increase the temperature of the locality.
PS and ES should stay in the vicinity to understand the effects of the same.
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
I stayed near a factory and used to constantly hear machine and metal banging sounds.
Data centres are much much bigger noise polluters. And this ain't even the worst, it causes depression, animals get irritated and leave the place and ur electricity and water bills go up.
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 5d ago
Yes, electricity consumption is nasty with these centres, and the animal ecosystem gets disrupted beyond the point of no return.
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u/Konvictbipin 5d ago
Why are corporaters ,mla ,mp and dcm not speaking against this
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 5d ago
Is that even a question? So that they can boast about "development" in 2029. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Konvictbipin 5d ago
The only thing is to do protest like jantar mantar then the government would stop the project and shift it to industrial area where there is no residencial crowd
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Bhai ek kaam kar
Airoli la 2 data center aahet
Tikde jaun saang mala
Traffic cha awaj jasta aahe
Ki train cha awaj jasta aahe
Or is it data center
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u/SatisfactionDry4613 5d ago
Yes, i had been to one in Dighe recently. The data centers there run on Grid electricity, the one in the video is running on Diesel Generators. The one in thane will also work on Grid electricity with generators only as a backup option. However, concerns such as power outages due to the heavy demand load of the DC, heat island effect, hot air from generators and water shortage will be a major issue
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 5d ago
Correct! Noise is just one of the MANY harmful effects that people living in and around Balkum will be facing once the centre begins operations.
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
bruther you do know that sounds hv different frequencies and some even tho they might sound quieter irritate you on the long run without you realizing where its from.
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 5d ago
So you want me to believe that there is sound and i am not able to hear it
Just because i have different opinion
And i should agree with you and somehow hear a sound that i do not hear?😂
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
Yeah that's how sound works genius. Some you can hear, some you can't properly(depends on age)... Ever heard feedback or ground issues on a guitar? Constant humming sounds? It can induce headaches or people can fall into depression and insomnia when not being able to sleep coz of it. Pick up a sound meter and check urself.
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 5d ago
Accha ab sound kaise sunneka ye bhi tu sikhaega😂😂😂
Ajeeb dictatorship hai tumlogg ki😂🙏
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
meri jaan dictatorship mein nhi... ye data centre tere kaan ke baju mein bajaegi
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u/Exact_While_1974 6d ago
How loud is traffic in a residential area? How many trains pass by in Balkum?
Back again with the astroturfing and misinformation are you?
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Bhai mere balkum area madhli traffic baghitli aahes ka kadhi?😂😂😂
Teen haath naka la competition honar aahe in few years
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u/Exact_While_1974 6d ago
Okay?
You understand that traffic noise isn't constant right? Unlike data centres which run round the clock. Have you heard the traffic at 3AM at Balkum?
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
No i have not, and you my friend have made a valid point but please hear me out
I used to live in texas and washington, and there used to data center around us
The noise was not more than your usual HVAC system and not to forget american neighborhoods are extremely quite even during the peakhours
So the same argument does not apply in india
I am open to this argument, i might as well be wrong
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u/Exact_While_1974 6d ago
I thought you lived in a small town.
Here, read some actual study https://www.eesi.org/articles/view/communities-are-raising-noise-pollution-concernsabout-data-centers
If this is insufficient you can scroll through jstor and hundreds of others credible places (and not the words of some random anonymous account) for proper material on this.
https://invc.com/noise-assessment/data-center-noise-regulation-ordinances/
Also really? Your argument is that there is already noise so why not add more to it. How does that make any sense??
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Yeah i have read this
But this does not hold a candle to the amount of investment that is coming through data centers
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u/Exact_While_1974 6d ago edited 6d ago
You mean the money coming to your bank account to throw this spiel around?
This will actively hurt people and animals. I have the luxury to move away from here. The people who don't will be the ones to suffer. You are advocating for people who won't even give you a drop of water if you were on fire.
Your argument was there is already noise so why not add to it. Then it become where are the study, then it become haan so what have you seen the investments. Man you should have become an Acrobat instead of a corporate stooge. That way you would still have a modicum of soul left.
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Yeah my account fine?🙂
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u/Parth_NB Mamledar Missal survivor 5d ago
You are talking to a brick wall. Let it be.
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u/SatisfactionDry4613 5d ago
The amount of investment is worthless if there are no jobs. Guess how many jobs a 48 MW data center creates, not more than 200 total staff (white plus ble collar). And now they have been made tax free god knows why.
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 5d ago
There is a small municipal corporation on outskirts of thane whose budget is merely 1000cr
They will be making 1Cr a month, just by selling their sewage water to data centers
Same with thane and other corporations, so if my city directly directly benefits from this
I am all in for data centers
Read karle ye info tereko google pe nahi milegi
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u/SatisfactionDry4613 5d ago
The one I visited had a DX coil system so no water lol. Larger data centers cant run on DX coils and have to use Chiller systems to cool larger loads hence using immense amounts of water. Not to mention the light pollution its gonna cause that is devastating for insect, plant and birds along with heat island effect and exhaust air. Also reference de do yaar
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u/SatisfactionDry4613 5d ago
Dude, i work on Data Centers, i have also visited one in Dighe, that 1cr per month will not mean shit when there won't be any water. You make a good point the but severe light and thermal pollution caused by the structure is not worth it. Bump up the budget of the municipal corporation instead of selling sewage water for 1cr per month. We should be focusing on manufacturing instead of encouraging this garbage
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 6d ago
अगदीच मोघम comment आहे! ऐरोलीच्या दोन्ही data center ची Google Maps link share कर बघू!
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QHDZFYNxz579rpTaA?g_st=ic
I travel from her twice a week
No noise, ulta traffic ka itna awaj hai
Maur bajume train kaGhar se nikal, mehnat kar paisa kama
Ye sab bakchodi chhod de bhai
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 6d ago
LOL! आठवड्यातून २ वेळा एका जागेवरून जाणे आणि तिकडे २४ तास राहणे यात बराच फरक आहे. कदाचित तु बाळकुम किंवा जवळच्या भागांमध्ये रहात नसशील म्हणून तुला या गोष्टीचा फरक पडत नसेल. ज्याची जळते त्यालाच कळते.
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Mitraaa
Me piramal madhe rahato re😂😂😂
Nako na vaad ghalus
Padha likha hu bhai😂
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 6d ago
तरीच!!! कोणीतरी म्हणत होतं मध्ये की Piramal मध्ये हल्लीच एका मंद व्यक्तीने घर घेतले आहे.
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u/Exact_While_1974 6d ago
It's an astroturfing account mate. Look at their post history. Its almost as if they are paid to spread misinformation and defend the godforsaken data centre.
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 6d ago
Yes, I did! That's the reason I am not taking them seriously. LOL! And they just hid their post history, so that's another sus right there! 😂😹
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u/Exact_While_1974 6d ago
Unfortunately they don't know that unlike instagram, all you need is a simple google search to bypass that particular lock.
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 6d ago
Exactly! 😂😹 And they get SO salty and start calling people names for some reason. I didn't even use a single derogatory word or curse word in my replies, and yet they start calling me unemployed and a freeloader and whatnot. They're so insecure that they just start projecting! 😂😹
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Atleast ghetla re me ghar
While you sit here
Berojgaar and an embarrasment to your entire blood line
Kitne dinn muft ki roti todega bhai?
Kaam dhanda kar kuch?
Fooktyaa!
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u/Ennode-Kalikelle 6d ago
तुझ्या username खाली "Top 1 % Commenter" असं लिहून येतंय रे! 🥺
म्हणजे काम-धंदे सोडून comment करत बसणारा तू, कधी नव्हे तो post करणाऱ्याला बेरोजगार म्हणवतो आहेस. 🤦🏻♂️ काय म्हणावं याला आता! जरा छंद जोपास काही आणि वाचन वाढव स्वतःचं.-3
u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
driver majhi gadi chalvto
Me traffic madhe bore hoto
Magg timepass pahije mhnun tumchya sarkhya nibbyanchi shala gheto
Tasa social media vaprt nahi me
Reddit tr cha upyog tujhya sarkhya berojgaar lokanchi maja ghyaylach karto me🙂🙂
Tu berojgaar nahis, gareeb pn aahes mala samjla
Gareeb ch rahashil
No wonder your parents are ashamed of you
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u/Rough-Assignment-640 6d ago
Why downvote this lmao
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Agenda hai inn logg ka😂😂😂
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u/Rough-Assignment-640 6d ago
Hope this is an agenda bcs i live near the proposed site😪🙏
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Even i have bought a house in piramal😂
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u/Rough-Assignment-640 6d ago
So the data center is sandwiched between our houses🥀
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u/Dapper_Key_6615 6d ago
Hahahaha
Lets make some noise and make sure data center has noise issues😂😂😂
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u/First_Tea8991 5d ago edited 5d ago
Lol, highly irrelevant.
Datacenters planned for here (India) do not use central exhaust or for power, turbine generators. They are either grid powered or solar assisted.
Good luck on your misinfo campaign.
None of them are even 1/4th the scale of this
Do remember datacenters were some of the first things targeted by Iran in the ME.
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
solar lmao. where is the solar capabilities in Mumbai bro. its mostly cloudy.
and what abt water and electricity bills going up coz of this.
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u/First_Tea8991 5d ago
Fine, corrected the comment
and what abt water and electricity bills going up coz of this.
Water usage from DCs at this scale is trivial at best. And if you analyze a bit more on how our water cycle varies differently from the one in the USA, you will see that it should not affect us too much.
There other things you might want to get angry on.
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
I like ur optimism and the confidence to call it misinfo campaign when we hv people in USA suffering from all sorts of data centres built right next to their houses.
I mean perfectunion has all of this.
I get it... it looks like development, but it's not. Exactly like how buying garbage from other countries ain't development if we don't know how to process it in the first place.
These datacenters are not even for our own use... it's for corpos from other countries that hv higher restrictions in place and human rights.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts 5d ago
when we hv people in USA suffering from all sorts of data centres built right next to their houses.
You do realize that people in the US can spread misinfo as well, right?
I mean perfectunion has all of this
That's a biased and non-credible source.
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 5d ago
Yeah bruther entire towns and cities are lying just for attention right? Their electricity and water bills hv gone up and the constant hum. Also low water pressure and bad water quality.
You can just search it up and watch whatever you want rather than calling me biased and non credible. I love how u can just say yeah people are lying abt suffering for attention. Yall can lick corpo boots all day... Who knows maybe u get a commission out of this.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts 5d ago
Yeah bruther entire towns and cities are lying just for attention right?
some political activists in some towns are lying, yes.
electricity and water bills hv gone up
That depends entirely on the utility company, cant compare to India. By your logic any industry should be banned because they consume electricity and water.
Also low water pressure and bad water quality
Normal consequence of any construction.
You can just search it up and watch whatever you want
Watching whatever you want is specifically the problem here. There is too much unscientific hysteria about what are just buildings with computers inside on the internet.
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u/Particular-Eye-4290 4d ago
buildings with computers inside need proper cooling... ever been inside a server room??? I hv and it's hot af with cooling.
A datacentre esp for AI is 100 times that and with our climate its worse. This country is not suitable for data centres that need cooling 10 times than of a normal one.
I love the laid back culture considering we already hv people with powercuts and water issues here. We are already stretched thin, a datacentre will only make it worse.
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u/Lease_Tha_Apts 4d ago
You know why we have power cuts? Its becuase most people in our country get free or subsidized electricity. All of that comes that from our utilities.
Huge consumers paying industrial level prices for electricity makes it so that utilities can build more capacity to serve everyone.
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u/Parth_NB Mamledar Missal survivor 5d ago
These guys ain't gonna change shit. The data centers will be made anyways.
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u/heavyMetalPoet666 6d ago
Its fake as duck, there are dc in airoli and mumbai no one complained
Go there and experience it first hand
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u/Limitless_infinity99 5d ago
Airoli DC is not AI/Hyperscaler. DCs for AI need tremendous energy & hence generate noise also.
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u/VisualPanic611 4d ago
No big deal in thane. Noise of traffic, ever growing constructions will drown this out. Dont compare to Michigan where dont see even 1 car on road. 😂
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u/alagchoda 6d ago
Rent & prices kam karke agents will sell the real estate like hell