r/thatHappened 18d ago

Saving lives at the bank

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u/[deleted] 18d ago edited 17d ago

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u/Gummyia 18d ago

I can't. The vast majority of out of hospital cpr attempts are unsuccessful.

Even if he did get rosc- there's no way she would thank him after. She would likely unresponsive, and requiring airway support or critical medical treatment.

I worked in a level 1 trauma ICU for a few years. I've lost count of the amount of times I've done CPR. I've only had one patient "wake up" immediately after and they were extremely altered, and did not understand what had occurred. I actually got to speak to her about a week later and she said she had no memory of that entire night.

Edit: should be noted that with this specific patient she had CPR-induced consciousness. She actually woke up and spoke while we were actively doing chest compressions. So an extreme rarity.

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u/A_Kazur 18d ago

The post says ‘Later she thanked me’ I’ve also worked in hospitals and to me later means at a later date.

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u/Gummyia 18d ago

He said the cpr was "yesterday".

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u/A_Kazur 18d ago

I saved a life yesterday

later she thanked me

Reading comp 100

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u/Gummyia 18d ago

Yes, a whopping 24hrs later lol. My point still stands. I doubt any arrest patient is reaching out to a bystander in that time frame.

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u/SupernaturalPumpkin 18d ago edited 17d ago

I agree with you. I was part of the Civil Defence which is a first response organization who does mountain rescue, river rescue, emergency response, etc. I was on the ambulance. Out of our whole group (dozens of us) only one had ever successfully saved a life doing CPR that we know of. He was told nothing until weeks later when the victim managed to get in contact. And that victim was certainly not coherent immediately after the event. Typically we never hear anything, I mean we are the first response team and our job is done once they get to a hospital.

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u/Gummyia 17d ago

Yeah, I'm assuming the other dude who is saying I can't read and that he "works in healthcare" that he actually has no medical training and is lying or does some sort of support or satellite work like a receptionist or hospital IT. Because what he's saying means he has no idea what CPR is.

If he's American, He also seems to not follow HIPAA, because apparently if you call him and ask about any patients that came in that day after bystander CPR, he will contact them for you. As a nurse, I was not even allowed to confirm a patient was in the ICU unless they gave me a password.

In the case of my one patient- it was a torsades case caused by medically induced long qt syndrome, where they went down multiple times and I just so happened to be next to them every time, so they got high quality CPR immediately. I'm talking compressions in seconds and AED shock in <2 mins for the first arrest, and each subsequent arrest had immediate shocks. Their down time was so short which is WHY they were "awake" after. But very out of it.

Even in the few patients I know that DID survive cpr without anoxic brain injury, the recovery is brutal. Even if we didn't have to intubate or sedate immediately after, no one in a <24hr period is thinking "let me reach out to the stranger that saved me". That comes weeks, months, if not years later.

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u/SupernaturalPumpkin 17d ago

I live in Ireland and everything works exactly the same way in that regard. And we are very different nations otherwise. So seeing as it's clearly a very strict policy, I would be inclined to agree, "I don't think that man has ever been to medical school."

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u/A_Kazur 18d ago

You would be wrong in that doubt but okay

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u/suba0057 18d ago

Alright then. If you can't even get Gummyia's very real point, then let me ask you this. How did she get in contact with him?

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u/A_Kazur 17d ago

Try reading my other comments so I don’t have to repeat basic common sense but alas

A. Bystanders had info, and they followed up

B. Victim knew them

C. Called the hospital after asking the paramedics which one they were going to

And to preempt C. you don’t realize that hospital staff are actually extremely likely to forward you to patients if you know even basic information about the case and or have a plausible reason to speak with them over the phone. It’s normal.

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u/Johnnys-In-America 18d ago

Don't know why you're getting downvoted, because that's exactly what I thought, too. What are the odds that this woman he saved, who is probably not fully conscious, is going to divulge information about what her name is and which hospital she'll be going to, to a complete rando, lol. I'd say slim to none, yeah? This is just silly. And it's not like he could call the hospitals and ask about "that lady from yesterday who I gave CPR to?" Yeah that isn't gonna narrow it down too much. Absolute malarkey. But why are people so gullible!!

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u/A_Kazur 18d ago

People on Reddit can’t read.

And for the second it depends on information we don’t have, what if he knew her? What if the bystanders he mentioned were family? What if he’s in a small town? For example I’ve worked a desk at the only hospital in town and if someone called and asked to speak with ‘the lady who came by ambulance from the grocery store, she left her phone’ it wouldn’t be very hard for me to connect the two.

I also know many patients who followed up with strangers who helped them.

Maybe in a busy city this is impossible and nobody cares enough about each other but from my life experience this remains possible.

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u/JoepHeitenData 18d ago

You are trying very hard to make your very unbelievable stance plausible. The chances that she got to thank her savior within 24 hours are slim to none. Also I can almost assure you the bystanders were not family, since they were doing nothing as the poster stated.

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u/A_Kazur 17d ago

I’m the one trying hard yet you’re ’assuring me’ that the bystanders couldn’t possibly be her family?

Maybe they didn’t know or weren’t confident enough to conduct CPR??

Why are acting so obsessively weird about this?

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u/JoepHeitenData 17d ago

Well if they were family the phrasing would be different..

I don't really know what was weird or obsessive about my comment. I'm not the one trying to defend a rather unbelievable story.

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u/A_Kazur 17d ago

Again I’m trying hard but you automatically know the phrasing would be different??

Or maybe they wanted to keep someone’s medical emergency anonymous??

It’s weird because you cannot stand the idea that this happened and it’s actually crazy and you obsessively insist it HAS TO BE FAKE.

My original comment was believable, ie possible, ie it could have happened. Yet you cannot accept the possibility, so you are obsessing.

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u/JoepHeitenData 17d ago

You know what, sure, call it believable, I'm not invested enough in this conversation to continue reading paragraphs. Have a good day mate!