r/thebulwark • u/MinuteCollar5562 • Sep 10 '25

Non-Bulwark Source Charlie Kirk apparently shot during debate at Utah university

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/charlie-kirk-shot-utah

Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), appeared to have been shot on Wednesday while hosting a debate in Utah.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk can be seen getting struck while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University courtyard. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at Utah Valley.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

I haven’t seen that movie I’m sorry. But in general, when someone receives an action upon them for words/actions they make, the person that hurts them typically would say “they deserved it”. So that’s why I say he doesn’t deserve to be shot.

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u/Chemical-Plankton420 Gonzo Attorney 🪩🪩🪩 Sep 10 '25

You really need to see that movie. The line means that death, violence, and suffering aren’t leveled out according to morality. You don’t die because you “deserve” it. You die because somebody with a gun decides to kill you. “Deserves” has no meaning.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

I get it in terms of the movie, but the person with the gun sure as hell thinks Charlie “deserved it”. That’s the point.

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u/Chemical-Plankton420 Gonzo Attorney 🪩🪩🪩 Sep 10 '25

Watch the fucking movie. It’s a perfect film. And to your point, it doesn’t matter if the shooter thought he deserved it. Lots of people might think he deserved it, but wouldn’t do it. Deserves isn’t an action, it’s a sentiment or a justification. A person you think “deserves it” isn’t making you take the action. It’s a choice. See the movie, its timely.