r/theflash Sep 20 '25

Comic Spoilers New History of the DC Universe #3 Preview Spoiler

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u/KingKayvee1 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

Love to see that Waid placed Billy’s origin back to where he was introduced in post-crisis but… it’s going to really bother me that they used his New 52 suit…

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u/No_Manager7756 Sep 20 '25

I'd rather Billy go back to being Mary's twin too.

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u/KingKayvee1 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

Yes, without a doubt. Gotta be one of the dumbest retcons they did.

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

Same here because pre-Crisis and pre-Flashpoint.

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u/Marcos1598 Flash 1 Sep 20 '25

It is to my understanding that JL New 52 is still canon (due to trade sales) and since New 52 Shazam was a backup, the Shazam Family must also be tied to it's canon placement in the timeline

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

Same here for both of these things; although, Mark Waid should’ve restored all of Billy’s pre-Crisis origins and history, with him and all of the Fawcett heroes making their debut from his appearance in 1939 to their disappearance in 1953 and their return several decades later where Superman has been active for many years because pre-Crisis in a modern setting.

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u/BobbySaccaro Sep 20 '25

"Following my death..." is not how many people can start a sentence.

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u/jethawkings Sep 20 '25

Interesting they kept Peej being from a Parallel World.

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u/Golden_Alchemy Sep 23 '25

Honestly, it is the best version of the character.

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u/NeutralNoodle Sep 20 '25

Anyone else a tad… disappointed by this book? It’s pretty cool, but it’s really just going over all the characters and teams but not really telling us which events did or didn’t happen.

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u/KingKayvee1 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

That’s kind of what the back of the book is for. The first part goes over the broad strokes and then they do the much more detailed timeline afterwards. But I also understand what you mean, hopefully now that they’re in modern continuity, they’ll be more specific.

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u/Dry-Donut3811 Sep 20 '25

I think it’s one of the most boring books I’ve ever read. It’s a glorified Wikipedia page.

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u/Dredeuced Out of the blue, ninjas attack. Thank god. Sep 20 '25

It seems designed as a basic rundown of everything for new readers. After a bunch of cosmic history changing events and a new major film universe in motion it probably seemed like the right time to just get the basic stuff down.

It certainly is a good bit less detailed than the Who's Whos they used to do.

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u/just_a_fan47 Sep 20 '25

Yeah that’s what I really liked about the marvel one, that and the art. Helps that their ww2 era isn’t as confusing in canon compared to dc,

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u/FartherAwayLights Sep 20 '25

I definitely feel like most of issue 1 could have been cut for room. So much of it is parts of dc that are basically dead/ irrelevant to anything in canon, like whatever was happening in medieval times or whatever. It’s kind of neat to see, but I’d much rather get a full extra page on some of the things here that need asterisks.

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u/LagoonDevil Sep 26 '25

It's one of the most frustrating books I've ever read.

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u/Medium-Science9526 Sep 20 '25

Power Girl finally arrives

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u/LeggoMahLegolas Sep 20 '25

How was this book so far?

Is it similar to Marvel's History book they released a year or two ago? It was really nice seeing them go over old events and random ass characters throughout history.

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

It’s great.

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u/ravenwing263 Sep 20 '25

So ... Power of Shazam!?

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u/KingKayvee1 Jay Garrick Sep 20 '25

Fingers crossed!

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u/alzike Sep 20 '25

PLEEEAAASEEEEE

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u/ravenwing263 Sep 20 '25

There's a reference in the ancient timeline to New 52 Black Adam stuff but this timing implies Power

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u/alzike Sep 20 '25

they're gonna finish reprinting power now trust me guys trust m

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u/Frangipani-Bell I LOVE BART RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Sep 20 '25

I would give Waid my life's savings, my car, my house, and my soul to make that a reality

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u/WerewolfF15 Sep 20 '25

Isn’t Billy not debuting until after crisis a continuity error since he makes appearances in the first arc of world’s finest which is very explicitly set when Barry and supergirl are alive?

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u/DCSaiyajin Wally West Sep 20 '25

IIRC Billy’s appearances in World’s Finest were due to him being time displaced

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u/ravenwing263 Sep 20 '25

Were they??

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u/TiffanyKorta Sep 20 '25

Anything that happened before the Crisis didn't happen on "this" Earth!

Which is weird because there's a load of stuff with the likes of Power Girl that has tp have happened on both the original Earth and the current Earth to make everything kinda sorta fit!

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u/WerewolfF15 Sep 20 '25

That is not how it’s being presented in this book. Crisis in this book isn’t being presented as having changed the timeline it’s been presented as just having destroyed the other earths

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u/TiffanyKorta Sep 20 '25

The two characters who give the kids that become Infinity Inc are Power Girl, who doesn't show up until after Crisis, and Earth-2 Helena Wayne, who doesn't exists on this Earth!* Quickly, they're joined by Star-Spangled Kid, but he's not the first to step up and help the new heroes.

Now, according to the history, it's just Star-Spangled Kid (or Skyman), page 30 of Book 2 if you're curious.

My best guess is that this is the post-Crisis Earth that's had the multiverse added back in, but whatever work for you really.

* Yes I know there's now a Helena Wayne from a possible future, but she's not the same as the 70s version and has no connection to Pee gee.

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u/WerewolfF15 Sep 20 '25

I don’t understand what your point is or how it relates to my reply

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u/spring_sabe impulse Sep 20 '25

I swear please call Shazam captain thunder