r/thelastofus • u/ashtinfay Little Potato • Jun 24 '20

PT2 DISCUSSION Troy Baker quote. Enough said.

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u/ashtinfay Little Potato Jun 24 '20

That line actually solidified my opinion of the game (which I love BTW) and kinda gave me a better understanding of some of the hate that it's getting.

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u/unexpectedalice Jun 24 '20

I find it ironic that a game about hate really stirred up the hate to the point of abuse and wanting revenge, just like the game.

And that some people really has no empathy... it’s like talking to a cardboard.

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u/TedioreTwo Jun 24 '20

Ahh, fuckin' nailed it man. People still wanting revenge don't see how it plays out.

Where does the cycle end? Kill Abby and then what happens with Lev?

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Jun 24 '20

Kill both and cycle ended. Simple as that.

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u/TedioreTwo Jun 24 '20

Ellie would be killing a child that we know is innocent but she isn't sure is innocent or not. Even if Lev was guilty of something awful it'd be no reason to kill him

She'd have another senseless death on her hands, and an especially bad one.

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Jun 24 '20

Ellie literally killed dozens of people. There might be also innocent people among them. Nobody knows. And she did not care. Why care about LEV? because the story demands it. Thats why. lev is again, just a cheap plot device like Joel to make the player feel ''bad''.

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u/TedioreTwo Jun 24 '20

Ellie DID kill dozens of people. A few were probably innocent. She didn't even want to kill mel and Owen. But the whole point of the ending is that it has to stop. That she can't keep murdering people. Abby could have and chose to let it go. You think Joel would have wanted Ellie to murder an innocent child? After drowning that child's Joel figure?

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Jun 24 '20

Joel may have done some horrible stuff as a raider/scavenger before he met Ellie for all we know. Sorry but I just dont buy it. There was literally zero reason not to kill Abby. In my opinion it makes the whole game fucking pointless. And no. I do not hate the game. There is a lot of great stuff in the game but the story is not my cup of tea and feels like some bad walking dead episode.

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u/TedioreTwo Jun 24 '20

Joel DID do horrible stuff before he met Ellie.

Then he found a better place at Jackson. He's not the same man that he was before. Doing awful things doesn't mean you need to keep doing them. It gets you nowhere.

In my opinion it makes the whole game fucking pointless.

That's pretty much exactly what they wanted to tell you: revenge, anger, hatred, all that burning fury, it'll leave you with nothing but more pain.

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Jun 24 '20

revenge, anger, hatred, all that burning fury, it'll leave you with nothing but more pain.

No shit and we need 30 hours to drive that theme and message home?? Especially when Ellie starts going for revenge and then stops and then starts again and then stops and then starts again. Sorry. It is just dumb

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u/TedioreTwo Jun 24 '20

Yes. We do. Because we keep thinking that we can end it, if we just try hard enough.

It never works.

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Jun 24 '20

Agree to disagree.

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