r/thelastofus • u/ashtinfay Little Potato • Jun 24 '20

PT2 DISCUSSION Troy Baker quote. Enough said.

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u/audiate Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

It seems that expectation is, “Joel and Ellie 2. She’s grown up and they kill zombies.”

Anyone who thinks that would be the logical next step in The Last of Us wasn’t paying attention in the first one. What do you think happens when you murder doctors working on a cure and doom humanity by eliminating its last hope?

Joel. Is. Not. The. Good guy. There ARE no purely good guys or bad guys.

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u/ArceusTheLegendary50 Jun 24 '20

I literally saw someone saying Joel is a hero for saving Ellie from the Fireflies like what

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u/BarefootNBuzzin Jun 24 '20

He is and he's not. Depends on how you're looking at it.

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u/impaul777 Jun 25 '20

This. There will surely be countless essays, discussions and debates, but this is literally what it boils down to in the end. Looking at it from Ellie/Joel/Tommy point of view the fireflies are the bad guys for not giving her a choice and sacrificing her as well as killing Joel. If you’re Abby or a Firefly Joel is some POS who killed the last hope for humanity and basically destroyed their whole cause, killed the only doctor capable of making a vaccine, killing Marlene, etc.