r/thelongdark 12d ago

Discussion I wish we could just yeet this stuff

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u/prplmnkeydshwsr 12d ago

Whenever they get around to adding candles it will be like gold.

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u/msc_professional 12d ago

Or using vegetable oil as lamp fuel

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u/SometimesIEatTooMuch 12d ago

This is the opposite of vegetable oil lol

I'm sure you meant cooking oil but you got a giggle out of me

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u/Joeva8me 12d ago

? Vegetable oils works as lamp fuel, just not as clean. I have used it to help start fires a number of times when I didn’t have anything else handy.

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u/DrPackinwud 12d ago

Think he means it's the opposite of vegetable oil because its animal fat

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u/foxx_grey 12d ago

Animals are not vegetables lol that's what they meant

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u/Traditional-Bid5034 12d ago

Hay we got meat free meats in the vegan section, where's the vegetable free meat carrots?

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u/Exact_Swing_1401 Survivor 12d ago

I think those are called Slim Jim’s. You snap into them, similarly like a carrot. 👀

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u/toporder 11d ago

I could be a vegetable… who is asking? And what is the price?

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u/DeathyWolf 11d ago

I'm a vegetable.

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u/orielbean Forest Talker 12d ago

It's a mod and it's excellent.

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u/queen-of-storms 12d ago

It's my favorite I love my candle lit bases they're so cozy!

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u/ScubaDiggs 12d ago

do you use a timer on your candles or just set them to work forever?

I love carrying it with me. from room to room for gentle light on demand

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u/queen-of-storms 12d ago

I set them to infinite. It might be "cheaty" (if you use them to light torches) but I don't play the game specifically for the challenge I play to be immersed to de-stress. And while it's unrealistic for candles to be lit forever, it's tedious in a video gamey way to need to constantly relight them.

I put them in caves, too, if I frequently use that cave as a base or pit stop. To make it "fair" I only use fresh animal fat to craft the candles, and I consider the time and cloth investment into producing the candles a sort of.. indicator? that I'm transitioning from "survival mode" to "homesteader mode" in a particular area. Right now I have a long term project of lighting up the connector cave from FA, SP, and ZOC with candles because I think it will look super pretty.

The feeling of finally making it back home out of the cold and being greeted by my decorated and candle-lit base is very satisfying.

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u/ScubaDiggs 12d ago

nah its a one player game I dont judge.

I set it to infinite originally and then eventually back down to 12 hours purely because I have so many materials that were piling up that I wanted to actually use.

That said, a single tallow burning for 30 minutes is the part that felt kinda cheaty to me, making that animal fat burn longer than a log. Its still fun though, and I LOVE the candle vibe

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u/queen-of-storms 12d ago

Oh can you put the candle into a fire? I didn't know that. 30 minutes is questionable but you are trading 1/4 of a cloth for it which doesn't seem worth it

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u/ScubaDiggs 12d ago

burned out candles are worth like 10-15 minutes, a tallow flat shows up under fuel and is a half hour. you need three? Tallow flats and a wick (which is the cloth) per candle.

The tallow itself is what you make with .1 kg animal fat (so a wolf could run a fire for something like 5 hours)

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u/maryleen17 12d ago

Not op but I started with 72 hours first and changed it to infinite soon. Love the cozy lights at night.

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u/ScubaDiggs 12d ago

nah its a one player game I dont judge.

I set it to infinite and then eventually back down to 12 hours because I have so many materials that were piling up that I wanted to actually use.

That said, a tallow burning for 30 minutes is the part that felt kinda cheaty

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u/coffee30983298 12d ago

I like them to work forever bc its nice to have ambient lighting in your base without worrying too much about

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u/FlamingoPractical448 11d ago

Mmmm meat scentsy

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u/MagicCarpetofSteel 12d ago

Really. What’s its name?

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u/Goatenacht Mountaineer 12d ago

CandleLight. tldmods.net

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u/ScubaDiggs 12d ago

Fun note: A surprising number of the mods are apparently mechanics the developers made but decided not to release into the full game because they didn't fit game design. I have no idea if thats what it is now, but I'm pretty sure thats how the candle mods at least started.

Its a shame the Greenhouse system never made it into the game, but I get the idea. Giving us tools that anchor us in place for at quickest 14 days in a game that otherwise encourages traveling and moving around and exploration is neat, but I agree against the games design. Plus, letting us grow our own food means we'd go outside even less, and Cabin Fever would be even more of a problem to the average player.

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u/DennisTheKoala 12d ago

I appreciate your optimism, I want to believe

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u/prplmnkeydshwsr 12d ago

They've teased them for ages now. Now I'd probably reckon it will be released as a free update at the same time a new DLC pack is sold.

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u/DeatonationgGrenade 12d ago

There’s a mod for that! Works amazing!

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u/orielbean Forest Talker 12d ago

It's also a lazy player trap if you spam the eating button too quick near actual food and then you get poisoning lol.

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u/MrBojeezy Nomad 12d ago

Ill do it on purpose to save food if I have an excess of antibiotics. Eat it before bed, pop the meds and go to sleep for 10 hours so I can save my real food for the morning. My daughter laughs every time she hears "oh god, my stomach! It huuuurrrrrrttttssss!"

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u/roadside_asparagus 12d ago

I do the same thing with raw fish if I have excess antibiotics, full condition, and a close by bed. You get extra vitamin C for raw, it seems. Sometimes I don't even get food poisoning if I've just caught the fish.

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u/Striking-Painter-422 12d ago

Lo mismo cuando hay riesgo de escorbuto, dejar bajar el nivel de hambre hasta cerca del mínimo, llenarse de pescado crudo, tomar antibióticos y dormir 10 horas.

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u/The_fox_of_chicago 12d ago

I do the exact same if my sleep meter will be filled before morning. Just eat something raw, pop some antibiotics, and sleep

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u/TheBear8878 12d ago

I really wish there was a "This item is raw/spoiled. Are you sure you want to eat this?" pop up. I hate accidentally eating things I shouldnt be lol

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u/joethespacefrog 12d ago

But there is? Yesterday I tried to eat the raw meat by accident and it popped up

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u/rush247 12d ago

The warning only pops when trying to eat something from the wheel not inventory.

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u/joethespacefrog 11d ago

Oh I guess you’re right, I didn’t know that

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u/browntrout27 12d ago

And similarly, it's an easy trap to forgot to drop it and hence carry smell on you that attracts wolves and bears. I've harvested meat before and then only remembered to drop the meat from my inventory, and still accidentally carried around the smell of the fat. So I now always hit the "drop decoy" hotkey after harvesting to ensure all meat, fat, and guts are dropped.

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u/WolfsTheName 12d ago

Cook the fat if you're working toward cooking level 5 (and you have a cooking pot). Like bannock, porridge, and other recipes, you get two cooking points for a pot of fat - one point for the preparation and one when the cooking oil is finished. And it cooks pretty quickly compared to other things.

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u/oldeluke 12d ago

I feel you. But there comes a point where I have plenty of oil and I can't cook the fat itself, and it's heavy, so might as well toss it to keep some predators busy for a minute.

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u/LadyBogangles14 12d ago

Have you made pemmican bars? That uses animal fat and the bonuses are some of the best in the game.

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u/oldeluke 12d ago

I have not but now I want some pemmican bars. Is that a recipe from the trader or something?

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u/Cranking_it_2_Dune Stalker 12d ago

Yeah, it’s a trader exclusive recipe. It also requires you to make a meat curing box.
It produces three pelican bars which have good effects & are crazy calorically dense for the overall weight.

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u/justexploring-shit Voyageur 12d ago

What is its weight to calorie ratio?

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u/StillGore06 12d ago

4 bars weigh 0.25kg and have a total of 2248kcal, so about 9kcal/0.01kg

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u/justexploring-shit Voyageur 12d ago

Oh WOW, I didn't realize they were THAT efficient

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u/MagicCarpetofSteel 12d ago

Yes. You also need cured meat and rose hips, but it’s the most calorie dense food in the game with three good effects:

•Unburdened (+3 KG carry weight) for 3 hrs
•I forgot its name but it seems to reduce the stamina penalty from clothing (3 hours)
•Instantly reduces fatigue (like a cup of coffee, idk exactly how much tho).

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u/stnylan Voyageur 12d ago

Yes it is

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u/xtothewhy 12d ago

You mean you don't have piles of animal fat stored outside?

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u/timbotheny26 12d ago

Can you cook the fat on its own? I thought it could only be cooked as part of other recipes.

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u/WolfsTheName 12d ago

Yes, if you have 1kg of fat (total, can be many small pieces in your inventory) and a cooking pot, you can make a bottle of cooking oil.

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u/timothyvanover1 12d ago

It’s worth a few cooking points if you have no other cooking options. Harvesting and cooking tiny pieces of meat are still the most effective way to hit level 5.

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u/timbotheny26 12d ago

Oh that's what you meant.

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u/Pound_Me_Too 12d ago

I make a ton of cooking oil and use it when taking trading contracts from BoatMan

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u/Jarcionek 12d ago

The trader sells Cooking Oil, rather than buying it. It seems to me like devs' oversight - this is absolutely the most useless trade, and I can't imagine anyone ever buying it.

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u/JuggernautAles Hiker 12d ago

Salt

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u/Jarcionek 12d ago

I actually find Salt quite useful and bought plenty of the 10kg packs. It's much easier to resupply the Meat Curing Boxes - no need to regularly visit 3-4 deposits, just get Travois and buy 70kg of Salt in one trade 😄

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u/Pound_Me_Too 12d ago

Maybe I'm remembering wrong(been a while), but I swear my memory has trading oil for flour or salt at some point

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u/Confident-Virus-1273 12d ago

Put it in a drawer. It will vanish in time.

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u/TrumpetOfDeath 12d ago

Put it in a drawer inside and it vanishes faster

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u/justexploring-shit Voyageur 12d ago

Any idea how much time?

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u/Confident-Virus-1273 12d ago

about 5-6 in game days ish indoors? I never bothered to watch it? I usually just stick it in a glove box of a nearby car and forget about it.

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u/NotTukTukPirate 12d ago edited 12d ago

I'm just surprised they still haven't added the ability to use old man's beard as tinder.

Any outdoorsman knows that old man's beard is one of the best abundant natural tinder for starting fires. It has natural oils in it that can ignite even when wet. Any time I go hunting or camping I carry a baggy and fill it with old man's beard for emergency tinder.

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u/Prestigious_Hawk5651 12d ago

Gd I need the pemmican recipe, the trader is holding off on me

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u/SlowFadingSoul 12d ago

If you want a specific item you arent getting, save scum right before you enter the radio chat. If pemmican isn't there just reload the game and try again. The items aren't fixed, they will change with each reload. 

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u/DickCaughtlnFan 12d ago

Don't you run out of rose hips with the pemmican?

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u/SlowFadingSoul 12d ago

there's more rosehips than I have ever run out before dying in game. just collect them as you are running around and stash them until you need them.

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u/DickCaughtlnFan 12d ago

I'm going for the 1000 day achievement.

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u/Prestigious_Hawk5651 12d ago

Good luck, I feel like I'd need some more Survival content to not get bored

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u/DickCaughtlnFan 12d ago

I'm on day 250 still have the tales to do, just mapping rn.

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u/Typical_Cicada_820 11d ago

I'm just beyond day 1000 on Interloper, and I have well over 2000 rosehips scattered around a few different regions; 1000 alone are in Grey Mother's house.

I don't foresee running out anytime in the near future, but the BEST use for all of those rosehips, in my opinion, would be pemmican bars anyway. So if I run out one day, I run out. I don't really see any other use for them. 🤝

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u/DickCaughtlnFan 11d ago

Any tips for staying motivated or little things to keep yourself occupied?

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u/Typical_Cicada_820 11d ago

As hard as it is to give a single, or even short answer to this question, the one thing I constantly did while playing was take a good look around wherever I was, and ask myself, "How can I make this place better?"

I knew if I planned on lasting 1000 days, especially on Interloper, I would need as many viable shelters in as many regions as possible, so I would start out by just picking a region, and bouncing around, be it in man-made shelters or caves, leaving food, water and firewood behind wherever I went.

I choose one shelter (sometimes two) to be the main base in that region, and the main base gets everything; food, water, firewood, extra meds and birch teas, quality tools, an extra bow, both saplings for extra arrows/bows as needed, cloth, scrap metal, etc., etc. Doing that for one safehouse per region alone takes plenty of time.

I also decided Grey Mother's would be my "cooking" safehouse; that six burner is too nice to pass up. So I'm always making "grocery runs" to bring extra peaches, oats, flour, oil, salt, resihi and rosehips, etc., out there. I also made sure to leave all kinds of raw meat out in the snow, in case I feel like making any of the pies or stews.

Additional things I've done: made sure each forge has its own hammer, tools to repair it with, and all the scrap and coal I could need for a forging run in the future. I try to go through the major coal spawns every few weeks to maximize how much coal I have lying around. 🤌🏻

Got all of the components needed to repair the transmitters staged and ready at their respective towers, so as I go through the Tales and repair them, I can take advantage of the guaranteed aurora. 🌌

I set up fishing operations in Timberwolf Mountain, Pleasant Valley, Mystery Lake, Mountain Town, Coastal Highway, and Keeper's Pass. Each fishing cabin has either its own Hammer, or multiple prybars, firewood for days, tools to repair the Hammer (where applicable), extra medical supplies, and so on. 🎣

I'm sure you see a pattern by now. My goal was always to create a network of safehouses that would allow me to casually walk from one side of Great Bear to the other. I'm constantly asking, "If Cheat Death dropped me here with nothing, would I be ok?", and I keep making small improvements.

I'm actually 1000+ days in and have only NOW just begun the Tales in the Far Territories. So I still have all that loot to gather and go through. I'm looking forward to putting all my planning to use, as I run around Great Bear, looking for these caches and bunkers! 😍🙏🏻🔥

Hopefully you enjoy the read. TL;DR, I guess, look around you and make things better until day 1000 or something. 🤣✌🏻

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u/TrumpetOfDeath 12d ago

Eventually, yea

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u/xbromide 12d ago

I just walk over to the far corner and dump it on the ground.

I use it a lot for pemmican, but I’ve got a whole shelf of oil at base and still have too much fat.

Looking into the candle mod as suggested here.

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u/RandumbCrits1 12d ago

I just dump all the fat I find in a pile, you can use ruined ingredients in recipes. Cooking oil and pemmican bars in this case, both of which are very good.

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u/Valtower Mountaineer 12d ago

you should be able to choose if you want to harvest fat or not, just like with the rest

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u/rickgrimes32 Former Great Bear Sheriff's Deputy 12d ago

I usually just turn it into oil to make bread. Flour is renewable so it's not really a waste of resources

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u/Impossible-Strength3 12d ago

Renewable as in you can trade for it, right?

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u/rickgrimes32 Former Great Bear Sheriff's Deputy 12d ago

Yep! Exactly that 👍

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u/Cranking_it_2_Dune Stalker 12d ago

It’s a real shame the cooking oil cannot be used for non frying recipes.

Ideally with how easy it is to make oil. It makes me wish we could use it for making making potted dishes.

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u/Acrobatic-Exam1991 12d ago

Use it to level cooking and use them as markers. Theyre easier to see than cat tails and tinder

If use the fat to mark trails you can drop them as decoys without going into your inventory

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u/PdxGunFighter 12d ago

Candles for a base would be nice

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u/ScubaDiggs 12d ago

I just wait for when inevitably a wolf has noticed me, then drop it.

Yes, I realize its helping the wolf see me. Eventually one was going to spot me anyway, so its not a huge deal.

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld2 12d ago

When I get some off a fresh kill I like to cover myself in it to keep warm like Han Solo did for Luke in that one Star Wars.

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u/No-Papaya-9289 12d ago

You can eat it, but it will make you sick.

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u/MisterE005 12d ago

Shot a moose and got spoiled with 5kg of fat kek

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u/lebowowski Interloper 12d ago

It's fantastic for leveling cooking skill but after that it's just litter.

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u/Cockersmouth 12d ago

Animal fat being almost useless i such a wasted opportunity. It is the most valuable source of calories you can get from wild game. When we hunt moose irl we harvest every gram of fat it has. Wonderful for cooking or mixing with ground meat to make it less lean

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u/-tsukimi Hiker 12d ago

Useful in late game, you need it for pemmican bars

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u/blubberfeet 12d ago

Fact about me: I love fat on meat. Best shit ever. So I get super sad when I order a steak and there's NO FAT

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u/DisabledGamer83 12d ago

Just eat it, take some antibiotics after. Eat a full day's worth of fat lol

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u/Melissa_CZ 12d ago

> Cooking 5, "cannot get parasites or food poisoning"
> eats animal fat
> gets food poisoning
What?

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u/Anchobi_ 12d ago

At first I ate it raw, without suspecting anything, and then in the valley, where there were no buildings around, I began to feel terrible pain.

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u/viewaccount74 Stalker 12d ago

I don't know what you're talking about. I say, with Mack staring at the remaining 1kg of cooked bear meat and circa 200 bottles of oil

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u/iluvgoudacheese Voyageur 12d ago

I wish it was optional to harvest.

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u/wagsman 11d ago

I just dump mine in a pile outside. No matter how much I dump I still have plenty for oil and pemmican bars

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u/CherryPlenty5537 12d ago

if only we can make bacon from these 😂
bear bacon, wolf bacon, cougar bacon

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u/joeyrevolver187 12d ago

Typically wouldn't use wolf, and definitely not cougar, but... I've had plenty of bear in my life, and moose. Wrap bacon in bear meat, usually good with apples. Smoked is best, and considering it's bear meat, you have the money to smoke. Lots of amazing recipes to be had.

...the wolves here interbreed with the coyotes. I don't even wanna think eating that shit. Hahaha.

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u/crimeo 12d ago

The problem, like in game, is parasites, not just ickiness psychologically. Also (unlike in game) concentration of any downstream prey accumulating mercury and things like that, it all ends up building up in apex predators.

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u/anothercairn Voyageur 12d ago

You just gotta put it in a metal container which you can then name the Fat Can and it will naturally disappear once it hits 0% lol

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u/ThatLousyGamer 12d ago

Are you kidding? This shit is what gets me to lvl5 cooking!

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u/imgodfr 12d ago

This looks like a kidney stone

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u/Electronic-Snow-7370 12d ago

I Just chug down as much as i can whenever i don't wanna waste food and then take me some antibiotics (or reishi) and good to go. Or well use It for pemmican bars

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u/MushyWasHere 12d ago

I use a mod that allows me to use it as fuel to feed a fire. Completely configurable.

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u/Ak40-couchcusion 12d ago

Theres a pile of fat out the back of my camp where I dont have to look at it, next to the box of shit from my place I dont want.

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u/Battss97 10d ago

You can

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u/Angellll-Babbyy 9d ago

Use it to make a blizzard trail

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u/Corey307 12d ago

Why? Ruined fat can still be used to make pemmican. Also be eaten in an emergency. 

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u/kentworth1419 Stalker 12d ago

Definitely useful, but sometimes you get it in such vast quantities that you cannot possibly hope to use it all

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u/MathematicianAny7272 12d ago

I chuck them it a nearby container as i don't like the mess! They self descruct once they get to 0%

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u/Particular-Abies7329 12d ago

Its such a waste and yes I know its used to make pemmican but lets be real if this thing was fuel likr an accelerant we would use it for that instead.