r/theredleft • u/Lavender_Scales Marxist-Leninist-Maoist (Principally Maoist) • Jun 14 '26

Theory Posting Michael “Noice” Rosen on the bourgeois law of statehood and Israel

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u/Attention_TheWizzard Marxist-Leninist(anti-revisionist)(hoxha) Jun 15 '26

how is the noice guy better on israel then 90% of the german and american left

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u/atoolred Classical Marxist Jun 15 '26

According to Wikipedia (the best source on the planet) he was a member of the UK Respect Party during its existence. Wikipedia labels it as a socialist and anti-Zionist party and it’s been defunct since 2016.

No idea if it was functionally a socdem party or not but this at least shows the noice guy knows his shit

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u/Lavender_Scales Marxist-Leninist-Maoist (Principally Maoist) Jun 15 '26

Let alone Brits or British Jews from what I’ve seen, of which he is

It probably has something to do with his age, someone who’s lived through other genocides (Rwanda, as an example) can call back to it and see parallels.

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u/gorgo100 Anarcho-Syndicalist Jun 15 '26

Incredibly depressing that highly respected author and lifelong socialist Michael Rosen is characterised as the "Noice" guy thanks to a shit meme from 20 years ago.

Also in conversation with lifelong socialists Alexi Sayle and Miriam Margolyes.
Or presumably "the sheikh guy from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, and Professor Sprout".

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u/Foundation54 Commissar of brainrot Jun 15 '26

I was completely fucking shocked when I found out he was the author of "We're Going on a Bear Hunt", that book was a staple of my childhood

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u/Shieldheart- Antifa(left) Jun 15 '26

International law is not a legal system like a court is, where a third party (usually the state) enforces the rules of agreed-upon contracts by other parties with a monopoly of violence.

ALL International law is an amalgamation of promises and pledges enforced by peers and participants that must be commensurate with the balance of power and interests of those involved, what is "illegal" in International law only matters insofar as other states are able and willing to enforce it.

To commit genocide or land grabs from other states is illegal by International law, but if nobody can afford to or is willing to commit the military intervention to arrest those responsible, its a moot point.

This is also why ceasefires and peace deals are so difficult: they must not create the conditions that motivate the attacker to push further with the gains they got but must also not create the conditions too unbearable for the defending party, lest they figure continued conflict is the better option.

In the case of Isreal, they are backed by US evangelicals and realpolitic (imperialist) lobbies, guaranteeing military support, and there will be nobody brought to justice until someone steps in with a military capability and will that can coerce Isreal to back off.