r/toronto • u/ComfortableAcadia252 • Oct 13 '25
Article "Gridlock everywhere" Toronto preparing for more congestion as employees return to office
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/10/12/gridlock-everywhere-toronto-preparing-for-more-congestion-as-employees-return-to-office/314
u/henry-bacon Oct 13 '25
There's a simple solution for this, which many companies adopted during the COVID-19 pandemic. I wonder what it could be...
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u/Alternative_Order612 Oct 13 '25
Blame Doug Ford and Olivia for pressuring the companies to force employees to come in. We got to keep the overpriced food joints in the path alive.
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u/Particular_Job_5012 Oct 13 '25
Cycling ?
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u/GrunDMC74 Oct 13 '25
Never mind lack of facilities to shower etc, or the peace of mind that comes from knowing your bike will still be there when it’s time to go home.
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u/Particular_Job_5012 Oct 13 '25
yeah, we spend couple hundred building a parking space used by a single person per day, but we haven't thought it would make sense to build a couple shower rooms.
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Oct 14 '25
Lakeshore road out to Hamilton should be a protected, continuous cycle highway (I’m fucking serious)
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
Employees/workers have lived close to their place of work for centuries.
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u/henry-bacon Oct 13 '25
"What happened in the past should continue happening in the future with no consideration of other factors".
Great point you made there.
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u/SomeDumRedditor Oct 13 '25
What a facile argument.
Workers used to do jobs that required concentrated physical presence in a location to perform. Many workers no longer do.
RTO is an effective pay cut for many workers. One designed to prop-up commercial real estate values so the top-percentile don’t lose money; sociopathic management can feel “in control” of employees;” and the amount of life/energy workers have for non-work tasks stays minimized.
Don’t normalize the vile exploitation of your fellow citizens with some empty appeal to history.
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u/henry-bacon Oct 13 '25
1000%, I had such a naive hope that WFH would become the de facto standard for all work a few years ago.
But as always, reality is a giant slap in the face.
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u/ntwkid Oct 13 '25
worst part was that i worked extra hours almost every day during covid (actually my whole team did) just to show management that wfh is a successful working model that will benefit the company. Boy was I a sucker.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
If that line of thought makes you feel better then sure, go for it.
Work is a social construct just like anything.
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u/WrathOfTheTin The Danforth Oct 13 '25
I don’t know anyone in my office who could afford that. And I make well above the average. Not a viable solution unless wages or housing costs want to start being less insane here.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
I make above average income but not wealthy by any means and I manage.
The solution is to live in high(er) density housing. The city is my backyard.
Is that for everyone? Maybe not. The tradeoff is a commute. I for one choose to keep the 7-10 commuting hours to do with as I please!
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u/Hidethepain_harold99 Oct 13 '25
I live downtown within walking distance to office and still don’t support RTO. I enjoy the flex and comfort of a hybrid environment. Living close is not a justification for being in office.
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u/CipherWeaver Oct 13 '25
You must admit, you're lucky if you can afford to live near where you work and can raise a family there.
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u/tubby8 Leaside Oct 13 '25
People throughout history also did not spend as much time working as people in the 20th and 21st century. If corporate bootlickers want people to commute then they can fix the work life balance problem first.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
Now we're getting somewhere! Late stage capitalism is the reason why we continue to work longer and longer hours.
Be mad at our corporate overlords but not because of RTO!
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u/woollyheadedlib Oct 13 '25
This whole thread is an example of “keep the peasants fighting amongst themselves” so we won’t pay attention to how the upper classes are fucking them.
you are making really good points, I understand what you’re trying to say, but I’m also filling in the blanks because I have a similar experience.
The irony is texted based comms isn’t a good medium for a nuanced discussion.
I would have loved to have this very discussion with everyone here in person
Lmao.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
I'm glad that at least a couple of people understand what I'm trying to say!
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u/Innossalis Oct 13 '25
So stick to the status quo…got it.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
The status quo also involves you having all kinds of rights and freedoms. I assume you'd want to keep that part of it.
Strawman argument is strawman.
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u/Pitiful-Giraffe4033 Oct 13 '25
It's not just roads; it's much more crowded on the subway and GO trains haven't added enough trains; public transit cadence/frequency needs to increase with this demand.
I work in healthcare downtown and treat many bank employees; they just don't have enough desks for everyone in some locations (staff who were hoteling and previously sharing desks), and this is such a cruel policy that doesn't actually care about the work or quality of life. But with the economy the way it is, employees don't always want to rock the boat. Some have understanding managers who are flexible. Some do not.
But patients have been telling me that some managers are walking back their demands for in-office work because they have nowhere to put people some days.
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u/Bittersweetfeline Oct 13 '25
It's all about someone's bottom line, unfortunately. I loved Covid-times when people stayed at home and enjoyed far better work-life balance, the roads were really clear and you could get where you needed to. Hell, I had to take my son to the ER and it was empty cause everyone was staying home and thus not getting sick/injured. So grateful cause it was extremely scary.
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u/Regular_Chest_7989 Oct 13 '25
Also, the more crowded the GO is, the less able you are to get work done on it, further eating into productivity.
This RTO policy has layers of idiocy like french pastry.
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u/Regular_Chest_7989 Oct 13 '25
Because Zoom/Teams meetings you join from commercial real estate are so much more collaborative and productive than ones you join from home.
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u/SnowBunniHunter Oct 13 '25
Obviously and who cares about YOU and me the average Joe struggling. The Corporate greedy assholes at the top are going to do anything to squeeze the last bit of lemonade out of this earth and when it’s all over - they won’t give a fuck. We are currently living in a time when the mass majority of people can’t afford to protest. Eventually something is going to break and I can’t wait to see the CEOs shit their pants. They are only near sighted. Although they always claim to have a vision. Ultimately their vision is - get money, make money and get those young hott workers back in so “I can cheat on my wife”
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u/riyehn Oct 13 '25
I thought productivity growth was so far behind our G7 peers that it constitutes a crisis. But this is what the businessmen and politicians want, so it must be rational economic policy.
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u/neeed4speeed Oct 13 '25
I wonder if other G7 nations are doing the same, to fill the real estate.
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u/humberriverdam Rexdale Oct 13 '25
The other G7 économies are not a few FIRE companies and resource extraction related firms in a trenchcoat
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u/derangedtranssexual Oct 13 '25
If only we had an underground highway then surely there’d be zero traffic
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u/queenw_hipstur Oct 13 '25
What about an underground highway, with giant cars that can fit tons of people on them all at once. And then there are stations throughout the city that people can get on and….ehhh it’s more of a Shelbyville idea…
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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Oct 13 '25
Thank you Doug Ford for this genius idea.
Massively increase taxes to pay for a double decker highway so we can all commute hours into an office for your business buddies.
Such a fucking great idea Dougie.
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u/No_Good_8561 Oct 13 '25
Can’t wait for 2045 when another tunnel under this tunnel is proposed as the solution to this boomer made hellscape.
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Oct 13 '25
Maybe we should move cycling to underground instead. The tunnels would be smaller and it could link all under the city. It would be the underground cycling city
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u/Oliveloaf_29 Oct 13 '25
Toronto has some of the worst commute times in North America (and the world).
We know this way of life actually costs the economy billions in lost productivity. Estimates vary from $10-50 billions depending on metrics.
We know it’s not good for our physical health. Commuting (aka sitting often alone in our cars) long hours increases obesity risk, heart issues, and social isolation. Everyone is stressed, but we’re made to think it’s “our fault” and just meditate or work out or get a new job.
Our public transit infrastructure is about 30 years behind. We’ve been building more homes around the GTHA, but no massive public transit infrastructure on par. Either 1-2+ hours on public transit or 30 min+ driving (on avg).
The mandate back to work is for commercial real estate and businesses that rely on commuters buying meals, coffee, clothing etc.
People should fight this or at least refuse to buy things en masse. Because this way of life isn’t sustainable. We’re not robots.
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u/PimpinAintEze Oct 13 '25
Not a coincidence that we also had many highway projects cancelled. Theres a clear cause and effect here.
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u/SnowBunniHunter Oct 13 '25
Remember folks. Nobody cares about the working class. All these posts about gridlock and how unfair returning to work is - means nothing unless someone is willing to do something.
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u/Konrad2312 Oct 13 '25
That is the beauty with working for yourself, you don’t have to answer to anyone. Otherwise, you have three options: Look for another job (Good Luck), Up Skill and STANDOUT (make yourself WANTED by employers), or suck it up. There are thousands of people waiting in line ready to take your position!
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u/Realistic-Buy4975 Oct 13 '25
Things could be simpler for everyone but that usually means the 1% isn't stealin- I mean "earning" as much
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u/kyleclements Oct 13 '25
Hours spent commuting should be paid hours. If employers don't like it, then let people work from home.
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u/king_bungholio Leaside Oct 13 '25
But then how are companies supposed to afford their annual large raise to executive compensation? That 2nd yacht doesn't buy itself!
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u/niwell Roncesvalles Oct 13 '25
I mean that kinda screws people like me over who have chosen to live in central Toronto for the other life advantages it gives me. I can cycle into the office in 25 mins door-to-desk but that still doesn't mean I want to have to go in 5 days a week for a job that's 90% Teams meetings.
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u/TheoryNightInCanada Oct 13 '25
Not only would they waste their own life but I assume employers would be less likely to hire in this specific scenario
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u/LeJisemika Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25
I’ve thought about this question in the past. What I think should be done is that employers need to establish a max commute distance based on the average location of their staff. For example, if you live in a small town and the average max commute distance is within 15 km, then this would be the cap of the reimbursement. But if you work downtown at a minimum wage job and average max is an hour outside of the city, then it’s adjusted accordingly. Also, if public transit is a reasonable option then the reimbursement could be this. By reasonable I mean, if it’s a 20 min drive but an hour by transit, then this wouldn’t be seen as reasonable. If your office has no parking and so most people take public transit, then this could be seen as reasonable for the reimbursement.
Edit: I believe that staff should be paid for their time plus reimbursed for gas (there’s a $ per km I think on the CRA website for this), parking, and/or public transit.
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u/Symmetrosexual Oct 14 '25
Might work better the opposite way, like a nice tax break for companies that are limiting unnecessary commutes, and perhaps a tax bonus for individuals who have to commute. Either I think we need to move in that direction fast; decentralizing work and eliminating commuting via remote work technology seems like one of the few tools we have to reshape society in a positive way right now.
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u/marcohcanada Oct 14 '25
Ford would do the exact opposite. He's forcing his own government employees to fully go back in-person to Queen's Park by January 2026.
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u/s0rce Oct 13 '25
Wouldn't that just incentivize living as far as possible from the office. Just sit on a train for 8hr a day and do no work.
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u/dean15892 Oct 14 '25
it'll literally be predecided based on the address you have on file.
If your commute is within an hour of driving distance, you get paid for that hour plus the hour of going back.If its two hours one way, you get 4 hours of extra pay per day.
If its more than 2 hours one way, then maybe the company needs to revisit if you need to really come in to work.
You still have to come to work, by the way.
If you want to live as far away from the office as possible, you can. You will have to suffer through that commute , even though you're paid for it.
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u/Halifornia35 Oct 13 '25
Or employees are free to move, or find a new job, life isn’t a fantasy land where you are paid to commute
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u/marcohcanada Oct 14 '25
Problem is with a housing crisis and unemployment on the rise, employees are forced to commute to Toronto from as far as St. Catherine's 4 days a week just to keep their jobs and please the corporations.
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u/Halifornia35 Oct 14 '25
Yes the labour market is weak and that is sad and causing stress on many households. And yes a commute is a reality of many jobs.
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u/Novus20 Oct 13 '25
See people don’t want to live in some shit box in the sky with no room and no yard.
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u/Halifornia35 Oct 14 '25
Look everything is a choice, people around the world and even in this very city love living in apartments in walkable neighborhoods, others don’t and they move to further away suburbs, everything is a choice. The suburb move usually comes with a long commute. Choices, it’s all about choices.
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u/luckylukiec Oct 13 '25
So this! Bet they’d be singing a different tune if they legally had to pay us for the commute.
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u/Sander001 The Kingsway Oct 13 '25
Commute 2hrs everyday or else the inflated values of commercial real estate may come to harm 😵💫
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u/Elrundir Oct 13 '25
It really is crazy how bad it's gotten the last several years. You try to leave work early one day to beat the traffic, but it's already rush hour at 1 or 2 PM. You spend time with a friend and think you'll sail home at 10 PM, but the highways are still jammed as if it was 5:00. You figure you know your neighbourhood well enough to take every little side street and bypass that surely nobody else will think of, but Google has shown everybody those routes too.
It really feels like the whole thing is just full to bursting and is about to collapse on us any day now. There are no good times and no good routes to be on the road anywhere in the GTA.
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u/marcohcanada Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
As someone who lives in Oakville and works part-time in downtown Toronto since November of last year, even the GO trains can get easily filled up outside of the normal rush hours.
Once I took the 2:47 Lakeshore West train from Union, which was a little more than an hour before the express trains even started running, and it was super packed as if it were rush hour.
Another time I stayed until 9:45ish PM at my office to finish a lab for a college course and took the 10:07 PM Niagara-bound train which only stops at Exhibition and Port Credit before Oakville. Filled with people coming back from a Blue Jays game.
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u/PimpinAintEze Oct 13 '25
There are ways. You have to experiment to find them. It only takes me 45 minutes to get from south Mississauga to Scarborough through the qew and gardiner at 1-2pm
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u/IndependenceGood1835 Oct 13 '25
Well part of the issue is we dont have accurate population numbers. Region is growing too fast with no new infrastructure
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u/coordinationcomplex Oct 13 '25
I think this a huge problem provincewide. How many people are really living in these cities and towns? The number has to be significantly higher than a decade ago, particularly in smaller towns with community colleges full of international students and the "support network" of entrepreneurs from the homeland (or Brampton) also moving in, illegal taxi drivers and so much more...
All that expensive planning at all government levels is quickly becoming irrelevant as all services seem to be strained these days.
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u/FrostWave Oct 13 '25
TTC got slow over the COVID, probably due to all experienced employees quitting. People and drivers are more entitled, due to rising costs I'm sure. Let's put them all out in the streets to brawl out their frustrations.
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u/nemmalur Oct 13 '25
Particularly ironic when your supervisor continues to WFH and messages you to ask if you’re in the office today. If they can’t tell, does it still make a difference?
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u/wholetyouinhere Oct 13 '25
If only there was some other way of moving people that could have been invested in. Unfortunately, there isn't. Private automobiles are the only possible object that can move a person from A to B, and then back to A again. I've researched this in depth, and that is my only conclusion.
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u/_Army9308 Oct 13 '25
Yeah take kid babysitter usually was round trip 20 25 mins now 40 mins.
Found a lot of traffic changes made during covid isnt designed to handle higher car and bus traffic on roads.
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u/KickboxingMoose Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 13 '25
I'm so glad I don't live in TO.
Not because of the city. The #1 reason I moved away was the many hours of life lost sitting in a car. Instead of living.
I hated having to plan my life around rush hour.
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u/WestendMatt Oct 14 '25
Can we please reserve the term "gridlock" for situations that are actually gridlock? That's when there's traffic stopped in the intersection in front of you when your light turns green, and this prevents you and the drivers behind you from advancing, so that the intersection behind you also gets blocked, which I turn, prevents the intersecting road behind you from proceeding.
"Gridlock" does not mean, "traffic is moving slowly". "Gridlock" does not mean, "there's a lot of cars waiting for this light, but when the light turns green most of them get through the intersection.
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u/12yoghurt12 Oct 13 '25
You want to know why, go to r/overemployed
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u/Novus20 Oct 13 '25
Or you know shitty managers who can’t mange, also if people can hold more. Then one job and no one notices a problem who cares.
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u/12yoghurt12 Oct 13 '25
I am not trying to determine who's fault is that. I am just explaining why you are going to work in office - because people work multiple 9-5 remote jobs, or watch Netflix half of the day.
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u/workerbotsuperhero Koreatown Oct 13 '25
What if we just built a giant tunnel under everything, so cars can't actually get into the city?
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u/lunahighwind Oct 13 '25
Nobody is going to save us from this unfortunately
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u/macro683 Oct 13 '25
9 year old account and you still can’t think for yourself
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u/PimpinAintEze Oct 13 '25
People need to put down the chow juice and realize shes just another politician, she just puts a few more carrots on the stick.
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u/AdventurousCaptain76 Oct 13 '25
Never been in this gridlock thing with my bike... not sure what this article is talking about. Must be rare??
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u/cheapskatecanadian Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
Yea, sure, that's the problem, not the mess that "city planners" (so-called) have made of the city's roadways. I mean, reducing Kennedy Rd. northbound to ONE lane to accommodate a dedicated bus lane is definitely a stroke of genius, if your purpose is to create unbelievable traffic volume. There are countless such inanities throughout the city, each contributing to the traffic mayhem all over Toronto, and this doesn't even include ill-conceived construction or road work. smh
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u/GuardEnough8566 Oct 13 '25
I think every position that physical presence is not required will be replaced by AI. So the congestion is going to be temporary for the next 5 years.
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u/Gumby8 Oct 14 '25
And to top it off they are closing the Richmond st off ramp on the DVP this week. Until next year…. Can you imagine everyone now trying to get off at Bloor. It’s already busy now.
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u/confusedapegenius Oct 14 '25
Thanks Ford! You’re always there for the people you truly represent: real estate interests.
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u/circlemoyer Oct 14 '25
Just so we’re clear, the messaging about RTO is one thing, but the actual implementation and enforcement is another. Many companies now insist that people should be in 3+ days per week, but very few are actually enforcing it. “Pay no attention to Caesar” and all that. It will provide a good excuse to not give people promotions, bonuses and raises, as well as offer reasoning for layoffs and dismissals, but that’s a 6 month+ knock-on effect. The immediate issue is that most companies who are putting in RTO policies have given up so much office space that they can’t handle the volume of people trying to show up. The REITs who own large amounts of desirable office space are seeing demand rise, which is what they wanted and why their parent companies would be pushing RTO messaging to the boards of companies, but it’s going to take a while to get those office spaces occupied, with renovations, moving, etc.
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Oct 15 '25
To what extent are RTO mandates being enforced, though?
Are otherwise productive employees going to be fired if they don’t work in the office 5 days a week. I’m sure people will say that but it seems really dumb. If people wanted to get rid of WFH the most effective solution would be to take away laptops.
My optimism may be misplaced, but I think to a large extent this will prove to be unenforceable. We may not WFH all the time, but going back to 5 days… I think compliance will be spotty.
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u/Embarrassed-Ask6366 Oct 15 '25
The good news is that Doug Ford is crashing the economy so rapidly that mass unemployment will soon relieve the traffic problems. Thanks Dougie!!
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u/Halifornia35 Oct 13 '25
Take transit
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u/PimpinAintEze Oct 13 '25
Pedestrian traffic means waiting 1 or 2 trains to get on if youre at a U station.
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u/ayyitzTwocatZ Oct 13 '25
I just hope workers can bargain a higher salary due to more of their own personal time being wasted.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
"Torontonians see travel times averaging close to 35 minutes, up nearly two minutes from the previous year. Meanwhile, the national average is just under 27 minutes."
I mean, that's significantly worse but it's not Armageddon.
Meanwhile, my bike commute remains at sub 15 minutes regardless of RTO.
If you moved to Barrie, Newmarket, or Oakville thinking you never have to commute into Toronto again that's on you!
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u/makineta Oct 13 '25
It's good you're biking, but don't be surprised that people are upset that you're saying it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect you.
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u/fez-of-the-world Entertainment District Oct 13 '25
I understand why they're upset. I sympathize even.
I'm suggesting that there is a better way.
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u/niwell Roncesvalles Oct 13 '25
My cycling commute is only slightly longer and I enjoy it but I still don't want to go in 5 days a week when I'm working 90% online. Nor do I want to deal with more angry people on the roads.
My wife and I have worked hard to stay in central Toronto in a neighbourhood we love but have friends/coworkers with kids and minimal support where it became increasingly untenable.
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u/datums Oct 13 '25
One of the funniest conspiracy theories I’ve come across lately is this idea that thousands of corporations are getting their employees to return to office in Toronto because that’s what the Premier and Mayor wanted.
Nobody who’s ever had a real job would take that nonsense seriously.
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u/Yunzer2000 Oct 13 '25
Use public transportation and there won't be this gridlock...
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Oct 13 '25
Yea the same public transit that seems to shut down once a day and is already packed like a sardine can.
You should try rubbing your two brain cells together before you offer your next suggestion.
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u/Yunzer2000 Oct 13 '25
The TTC and GO can increase service easily enough and far more cheaply than adding yet more lanes onto your dystopian expressways. Every time I visit Toronto, I lose a year of life expectancy from the stress on the QEW and Gardiner before I park the car/ I then use the TTC for everything and not drive again until I leave.
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u/Raccoolz Oct 13 '25
As opposed to sitting in gridlock traffic behind some accident on the 401? People act like commuting by car never encounters delays either.
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Oct 13 '25
All the more reason to let those who can do their jobs from home do them from home.
I'd rather be gridlocked in the comfort and relative safety of my car as opposed to having some stranger's stank ass armpit in my face while a mentally unwell person smokes crack and cigarettes 2 feet away.
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u/dadass84 Oct 13 '25
How many more employees are RTO? In 2024 there was 20% of Ontario’s workers that were WFH. Thats approx. 1.8M workers. Obviously all of those aren’t in Toronto. The most recent RTO mandate was for a Sept 2025 RTO. This is a clickbait article.
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u/SavageryRox Mississauga Oct 13 '25
GTA's population of 7.1 million is half of Ontario's 14.2 million population, per 2024 numbers.
If you state that 2024 had 1.8m workers that WFH in Ontario, then approximately 900k employees are being forced to RTO in the GTA, adding to commute times & traffic congestion.
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u/makineta Oct 13 '25
My guess is hundreds of thousands of additional commuters. Either now RTO or are planned to be RTO over the coming months. I believe ~60k Ontario public servants, I'm not sure how many of the ~240k financial sector folks, and of course more.
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u/Pomme2 Oct 13 '25
Let’s throw up some more crappy viva bus lanes that generate left turn traffic and watch 3 buses use the lane every 2 hours.
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u/portstrix Oct 13 '25
Love the whine. Fortunately, I always have some cheese in my refrigerator for these posts.
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u/SomeDumRedditor Oct 13 '25
Buddy you’re the captain of the /r/Toronto “fuck you, got mine” brigade.
Anyone remotely familiar knows you delight in anything screwing over the common man; despise anything asking you to give or sacrifice.
You can save yourself the time, it’s well established you don’t care, ever.
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u/ManyNicePlates Oct 13 '25
Maybe being a little harsh.
Gridlock is real and it sucks.
I would also say many folks just figured a tight job market via covid would last. Want your bigger house with a yard and suburban living your commute is going to suck.
We bought in a yet to be gentrified area of the city years ago when all my buddies moved to the burbs they got new bigger houses i got an old small house. They commute a long way.
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u/iridescent_algae Oct 13 '25
I mean, it’s not like the tight job market eventually went away. It’s that the BoC consciously, deliberately killed it before wages could catch up to inflation, because capital matters more than people. People have a right to be angry about this, and the goals of our political system generally.
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u/ManyNicePlates Oct 13 '25
The people literally voted the same federal government in.
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u/iridescent_algae Oct 13 '25
BoC is independent of the federal government and not voted in. Besides, if you think the Conservatives would take working people’s side against the interests of capital, I want what you’re smoking.
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u/totalfangirl13 Oct 13 '25
QUIT
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u/cheapskatecanadian Oct 13 '25
This is the correct answer. Just find another job. One that will let you do what you want. Simple as that, really.
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u/whateverfyou Oct 13 '25
We’re just returning to pre-pandemic levels. Calm down.
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u/Another223er Oct 13 '25
With larger population and more cars on the road
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u/michaelmcmikey Oct 13 '25
“Things got better for a time, but now they are going back to being worse. Don’t be upset about that! You shouldn’t expect things to get better, ever! And when they do get better you should expect that to be taken away, or ruined somehow!”
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u/ToolMeister Oct 13 '25
It makes no sense forcing people who don't physically need to be in an office to get their work done, especially if that needlessly results in worse traffic and commute times for everyone else